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Sunday, November 13, 2011

Discussion S01E01 All-American Muslim - How to Marry a Muslim

All-American Muslim
How to Marry a Muslim
TV-14 (L)

When Irish Catholic Jeff decides he wants to marry his Muslim girlfriend Shadia, it leads to a dilemma. Will he convert to Islam and jeopardize his relationship with his own mother, or keep his faith and risk alienating Shadia's entire family?


DISCUSS BELOW~

30 comments:

  1. I love the blog. I don't understand why you include the All-American Muslim show on it.

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  2. What Anon 11:32 PM said. Me too. I'm here to follow SW and that's it.

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  3. I enjoyed the show and learned a couple things in the process. Who knew it took so little to convert to Islam?

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  4. Cherie, please elaborate. I am interested in the viewers thoughts on the show. We will be having a writeup on All American Muslim

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  5. Why not have a separate blog for this show? I lurk here for SW and have no interest in the tv show AAM. It is disappointing.

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  6. I agree. I am only interested in SW. I could care less about the other show. I posted as "Annoymous" because I could not figure out how to post a name. I am new to this.

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  7. How to Post
    You may post under comments using the following log ins: LiveJournal, WordPress, AIM, OpenID, Typepad, Name/URL, Anonymous. If you have a gmail (google) address, you may sign in with that at the top and use it. PLEASE FOLLOW us at the right! If you don't have any of the above, simple use the Name/URL- no need for an URL, simple make up a name and type it in. You may also use Anonymous, but them we don't get to know you! THANKS! WE APPRECIATE YOU!

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  8. I like this blog too. I'm here to follow SW and wish you would separate the two.

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  9. I have a problem with the Muslim and 19 Kids and counting covering up for modesty. You can be modest and not have to cover yourself like they do. I feel it makes you feel shameful.

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  10. The man who converted to Islam certainly doesn't know what he truly believes. While Muslims believe Jesus lived, they do not believe he is the Son of God and the path to salvation. Instead, the Bible and the Quran' are not compatible in regards to salvation.

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  11. I also don't get why you have AAM posts on the Sisterwives blog. I suggest starting a separate blog for it.

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  12. I see a correlation between both shows. Each has an underlying message to desensitize us with their lifestyle or their religion. I think with the freedom that gays feel to come out, other sects or lifestyles are pushing the boundaries to be accepted as everyone is embracing gay lifestyles.
    They are trying to change our traditional or conservative ideas.... I reject their underlying message but watch because I find it interesting. I am just watching the episode and the first questions asked is exactly what I am saying.

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  13. I find myself watching this now whereas before I might not have.
    As a christian - I had no idea what a Mormon was before now. What if my daughter had come home from college and said, I am in love with a guy, he's a Mormon- well now I would be much more leary. I will watch the show, and come here and learn what I can about the religion. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, NOT AGGREEMENT! Yeehaw!

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  14. Monogomous ChristineNovember 14, 2011 at 3:10 AM

    Drita69, you are right to be leary of mormons. Having lived my entire life in Arizona surrounded by lots of Mormons, I know them well. Mormons are fine people as neighbors and business relationships. But Mormons are NOT "Christian" in the sense undrstood by Christians. I am not saying that to be mean. Mormons do not accept the tenants of the Apostles' or Nicene Creeds, which outline the basic precipes of Christianity. Because Mormons do not accept the basic Christian principles on the nature of God, sin, salvation and grace, Mormons cannot, by definition, be classified as "Christian" and I don't know why they would want to be if they don't accepts the tenants of Christianity.

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  15. Monogomous ChristineNovember 14, 2011 at 3:41 AM

    BTW, I love this blog. I am Christine, but I monogomous. I am very selfish. I do not want to share my husband and sleep and eat along most nights. I do not want sister wives. I have enough problems getting along with my real sister, why would I want sisters that sleep with my husband. YUCK!!! Flu season must be a nightmare for the Browns.

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  16. The Muslim wedding was so different from what I know as a wedding, I was surprised! I was surprised that the groom thought he was entitled to the dowry and not her parents. I wonder if they also went to the courthouse for a civil ceremony or if that's all they needed to do? I hope that the groom isn't sorry later about his conversion and it causes problems down the road, he really didn't seem all that happy about it. I wonder how happy he will be when the newness of the marriage starts to wear off? I really didn't see a whole lot of sincerity there, he didn't seem to know much about it.

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  17. If you want to know the truth about the Muslim religion and what they believe go to this website www.thereligionofpeace.com

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  18. I like AAM but I don't think it goes on the blog.

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  19. This show was odd. Definitely less political agenda but just as much attention-seeking as the Browns.

    Islam is either super-easy to convert, or super-hard or something. This was weird. I was just confused by this show.

    I guess this is why I only know ex-Mormons and ex-Muslims.

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  20. Pet peeve but seriously.... i wish all the religious people when discussing their beliefs or someone else's would please learn the correct word is "TENETS" and not "TENANTS." It just seems they should all know that religious belief describing word as opposed to the incorrect one they keep using. Thanks! (I now step down off my soapbox.)

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  21. I LOVE how so many people want to tell the Blogger how to run their blog. LOL. If you don't want to participate in a particular post, thread or feed, then don't. Maintaining a blog is no easy task, so give them a break.

    I just found this blog a few weeks ago and I find it interesting to see different views on the show. I was also interested to see AAM. So, discussing it here would be one stop shopping for me. :)

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  22. I've heard repeatedly that the bride pays the groom goods or money as dowry. That's why the girl is of little value to the bride's family. She costs them money and then slaves away for the groom's family. Really lousy deal. You birth the girl, raise her, teach her, have to pay to get rid of her, and get nothing back in your old age for her. Thus poorer families may kill the girls. Thus causing population imbalance and leadig to, wait for it, polygamy.

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  23. I thought it was a good first episode. I grew up in a very diverse city, so there's nothing new for me in this show. I've never felt threatened by a different culture or religion. But the comments made by others are interesting, to say the least. I'll probably watch just to read the comments afterwards, lol.

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  24. I have been Muslim for nearly two decades and in Islam the bride does not pay the dowry to the groom or his family; that is something from Indian culture and unbeknown to many, European culture up to around the 1600s. In Islam the money is paid to the woman by the groom and it is for her own use. In Islam there is a system of alimony but a man is also expected to give a woman an amount of money she and/or her children can live off for a while should something sudden and drastic happen to him. It is also a must that one makes a will to try to prevent scenarios such as this. This show is not representative of Muslim communities in the US; just like you cannot say that Sister Wives is representative of Mainstream LDS or mainstream Christianity on the whole. By the way Muslims believe Jesus is a messenger who brought scripture and he is also the messiah; his name in Arabic is Al-Maseeh which is Arabic for Messiah; and in many ways Muslims consider Jesus to be more important than Prophet Muhammed, it is Jesus who is chosen to come back at the end of time, not Muhammed Peace be Upon Both of them. However Muslims do not believe Jesus is the son of God, and we actually believe that to be very disrespectful to both God and His Prophets.

    As for the site Christianmommy posted; well as I can say is it speaks volumes to me that there is a whole industry of this type of site and those run by embittered purportedly ex-Muslims making all kinds of wild claims as to how they were threatened by Muslims and Islam itself; yet when under scrutiny they cannot even pronounce the name of Allaah correctly in Arabic let alone knowing the call to prayer or first chapter of the Qur'an. Not to mention sites like the above posted link; yet you never see the same (false) claims about Christianity from those Muslims who accepted Islam, even though in some Arabic countries many converts from Christianity to Islam are threatened with death or even killed. A very well known Muslim speaker was killed in a car accident a few weeks back and during his whole 30 year career of translating, writing and lecturing he never once spoke an ill word about his former faith of Christianity or his non-Muslim family; never once felt the need to 'prove' how Muslim he was by accusing his family of oppressing him or saying falsehoods about what he learned in church when he was young. Strange isn't it?

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  25. BTW an excellent review of this show, by a Muslim who shares very similar concerns to my own

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/15/my-take-all-american-muslim-doesnt-speak-for-this-muslim/

    (hope its ok to post here)

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  26. Soph- we liked your review!

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  27. That CNN review was hilarious. I think it got what my problem was -- this show had black and white and no gray. You either have tattoos or a headscarf. Yay!

    Kody & Co. are solidly gray at all times. Makes them likable, I guess.

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  28. Thank you, I think the show is similar to shows we have here in the UK in that it makes claims to be representative of all Muslims yet only shows a very narrow spectrum. Over here the shows tend to portray very cultural, minimally practicing Pakistani people who just happen to be Muslim by birth and who live in a couple of towns in the North of England, as representative of the diverse 'Islamic community' of around 2 million, whereas for you guys its Shia Lebanese Arabs in one state of the US. Its a shame as there are many interesting mainly African American or white communities of Muslims in various places in the US; there are quite a few native American Muslims as well; not to mention all the South Asian Muslims that make up the majority of the Muslim community in some areas

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  29. what bothered me about this show was the bride and her father's insistence that this young man convert to Islam. The bride herself does not practice. What is the point of the groom giving up his long line of Catholicism to convert to Islam for someone who does not practice? Another extremely selfish part occurs when the bride's brother is speaking to their father about Jeff's conversion. He asks how the father would feel if his daughter were in Jeff's shoes with Jeff's family. The father in law's narrow minded answer that he's not Jeff and it would be something that Jeff would have to deal with really got to me. He also said his daughter was born Muslim. Jeff was born Catholic. And the whole conversion ceremony really got on my nerves. no training to become a Muslim? Jeff doesn't even understand the language and doesn't understand the gravity of his actions, but his poor mother did. I feel like Chadia just disregarded the mother's feelings when she was speaking about how she felt about her son converting. And correct me if I am wrong, Chadia is used goods. she's divorced and has a son. How does that fair with her father, who seems to think his child is a really devout Muslim.

    I don't know if it was this episode or the other, but i would be very upset as a mother if my child, who is Christian, were forced to practice late at night due to Ramaadan. If this is a public school, how is that not encroaching on the religion out of school rule? blatant disregard for the safety and religious practice of my son, who does not seem to be as important as the other team players becuase he is Christian. I would be definitely angry and filing a discrimination suit against that. either you want to be treated equally or you want special circumstances. you can't have both when it comes to public schools

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  30. I agree anonymous,

    this jeff doesnt look happy and looks like he doesn't even know himself, its like he's escaping from something. I dont believe the marriage will last.

    You're also right about chadia's family and how they push him into conversion without considering his family's feelings, but that's typical for muslims and not just this family. They always try to push more and more of *their* beliefs and customs into other people (non-muslims) and the other cultures.

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