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Sunday, September 15, 2013

My 5 Wives Special; Spoilers, Gossip etc.

Meet the Williams, a progressive polygamist family who believe in love and commitment rather than religion. Despite ongoing hardships within their community, this modern family presents a fresh and honest look at a very controversial lifestyle.

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Short Synopsis of what we know about Brady Williams and family:


BRADY WILLIAMS: Brady was born into the Mormon Church, but until age 16, he had never heard of polygamy. At that time, his parents converted to a faith that embraced the lifestyle. Until the age of 34, he grew as a church leader before he and his family decided to break away. Currently, Brady works as a project manager at his brother’s construction business while also pursuing a degree in philosophy at the local college.

PAULIE (1st Wife): Paulie and Brady have been married for 21 years and have six children, ranging in ages from 20 to nine years old. She was raised in a polygamist family and expected Brady to have additional wives, but she is also proud of her oldest daughter, who is recently married and plans a monogamous lifestyle. Paulie works as a dental hygienist.

ROBYN (2nd Wife): Robyn and Brady have been married for 20 years and have five children, ranging in ages from 19 to nine years old. Married about nine months after Paulie, Robyn also grew up in a polygamous home and expected to be a plural wife. Dubbed by the family as the “creative” wife, Robyn has taken a few art classes and loves making handmade gifts for her large family.

ROSEMARY (3rd Wife): Rosemary and Brady have been married for 18 years and have four children, ranging in ages from 17 to 11 years old. Rosemary used to work for the family construction business but stopped after winning a scholarship at the local college. She is studying for her teaching degree in music and biology and is particularly passionate about composing.

NONIE (4th Wife): Nonie and Brady have been married for 15 years and have five children, ranging in ages from 14 to four years old. Nonie was living in Montana when she first met Brady, and the two had a brief long-distance courtship before they got engaged. She currently handles the administrative side of the family’s construction business and is the only wife that works with Brady on a steady basis.

RHONDA (5th Wife): Rhonda and Brady have been married for 12 years and have four kids, ranging in ages from 13 to two years old. Rhonda, who is Robyn’s cousin, loves to work outside the home and is now a medical assistant. Despite their immediate bond, she confesses it still took eight years before she really felt like she belonged in the family. While Rhonda says there are downsides to polygamy, she loves that her kids always have other mothers around that love them.

Names the first-born son from each wife Brady.

Like the Browns, the Williams family are hoping that putting themselves on TV will make the public more accepting of polygamy.
"Sure, it’s scary," Brady said. "But it’s important to stand up for what’s right. And it’s right to allow consenting adults who are well-adjusted and not coerced to be able to share their lives and raise their children in a stable and loving environment."

They don't want their kids to live in fear...etc.

Ok, we've heard all that before. Here's to hoping they are more honest and easy to like!

Here's an interesting quote from an article from 1997:

Polygamy remains a felony in Utah, but it is no longer prosecuted, said Eric A. Ludlow, the Washington County Attorney, in southern Utah where a number of plural families live. Polygamists, he said, get around bigamy statutes by legally marrying only one wife; the others are recognized by religious leaders, or simply by the individuals themselves. ''They go under the table, and we don't track it,'' Mr. Ludlow said. ''It's a consensual relationship between adults.''

Brady Williams was also interviewed in the article. Here's his piece, with only 3 wives then.

When Brady Williams, 27, a fundamentalist Mormon, designed a home south of Salt Lake City for his three wives, each 23, he took the separate-but-equal principle a step further than the Bakers did. The house is divided into three 1,900-square-foot apartments. Each wife has her own entrance, her own floor plan and her own furnishings. Mr. Williams, a framing contractor, bought three furnaces, three television sets and three refrigerators.
''It does get expensive,'' he said. The only space the women share is a utility room for laundry and a family room. Mr. Williams keeps a few shirts in each apartment, and he rotates his meals and nights between wives, but the entire family eats together on Sunday. In a considerate gesture he designed the house so that no master bedroom is directly above, below or next to any other master bedroom.
''I believe the girls should have their own identity and place and not be mindless zombies,'' he said, ''but want to work together at times, like when they're canning fruit. I have really good wives. It works out.''

(Source of quotes: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/12/11/garden/a-house-10-wives-polygamy-in-suburbia.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm)

242 comments:

  1. You don't always have him when you need him, the kids don't always have him when they need him....okay, why do they do that.

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  2. Now this new plyg show, they don't seem as dysfunctional, but time will tell.

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    1. I thought this family was far less dysfunctional as well.

      One of the differences is that it felt like the wives actually tried to communicate and they actually TALKED to each other. They eat together as a family each night which shows they're much more integrated and a big family than the Browns who are live separate lives. The wives have outside interests, have actual JOBS and are much more independent. Each of the wives seemed to be able to articulate why they chose the lifestyle and why they have stayed - something the Browns seem incapable of verbalizing. They also didn't just acknowledge, but discussed head-on, jealousy, fears, and conflict and didn't try to play keep-away like the Browns.

      I just found this family to be more open and likable - but then I liked the Browns, too when their show first aired.

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  3. It seems obviously scripted more so than sister wives. Hope if this show gets picked up they feel more comfortable in front of the cameras.

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  4. I just can't tonight. Still waiting for my blood pressure to calm down from the SW debate show. I'll tape this and see if I can watch it later.

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    1. mythougtis, This show has actually lowered my BP after seeing the Browns. These people seem (so far) much less drama filled and they seem to make smart decisions.

      We'll see if it continues if they get a season.

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    2. I agree. I actually felt relaxed watching them. For some reason I felt these people seem a little more vulnerable than the Browns. The heavier wife talking about her weight issues with the husband seemed authentic to me. To be honest, I teared up a little when she was comparing herself to the other wives. I would much rather watch these people over the Browns. The women do seem sad but I think it is a much more real look at that life style than the Browns.

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    3. Please remember that in the first few episodes, especially in the first one, the Browns seemed so normal! I admit (and this is painful to admit) that at first I was a fan until things just seemed weird and odd. I didn't know about their doctrine. Then I came here and learned about their religion and bankruptcies.

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    4. I agree with Funky Town. they were much more laid back in their speaking and tone, the Browns never had that ever. Kody was a hyper clown from the start, IMO

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  5. I have such a bad taste in my mouth from Sister Wives that I don't think I can be objectionable about this guy and wives. But I am watching...

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    1. I agree... It just seems like such a reach, but if you'll notice the wives are all from polygamist families. You'd have to be raised in the environment to think it's normal.

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    2. You pretty much _have_ to be from a religion that mandates it, otherwise it is very very hard to stand this kind of life. Especially with a lot of wives, even more kids and little money! You really have to be full with the doctrine for it to work.

      You know what, the Browns made money off of this and just like with anything, people are trying to get a little piece of the plyg "reality" pie!

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  6. I can't keep the wives straight yet, but so far they seem to have their heads screwed on pretty tightly, but then again, so did the Browns during the 1st season.

    I like that they have specific lengths of time to spend on specific anniversaries, like the 10th or 5th, that way they are treated all the same.

    Had to be tough for the one wife to come out as a polygamist to her boss, wondering how she would be accepted and if she'd lose her job.

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    1. It seems nice that they do that, but then I thought wow, he gets much more vacation time than they do. How can this life style ever be balanced.

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    2. This family admitts there is jealousy and openly works to limit ways for it to occur like setting standards for vacations and birthday celebrations, etc. The husband doesn't stick his head in the sand like Kody, but works with his wives to try to make their lives easier. Let's face it, Kody is a coward.

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  7. It seems more realistic than SW, but I don't know if I am very objective tonight. SW really has me pissed tonight.

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  8. I can't watch it tonight either. DVR is set I'll watch it when I've calmed down from Kody and Co.

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  9. I don't mean to offend anyone, but do we need another show about this? Live your life. God will judge and leave it at that. The Browns has to flee Utah. Why put your family out there and risk the same happening.

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    1. Ah, but there is good money to be made. The Browns did not really have to flee. They wanted to. They have also gotten quite a bit more in the way of material things since they have been on the show.

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  10. Funky Town and I need octopus arms tonight

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  11. Meeting each of the wives, Robyn is an artist. She made each of her sister wives a body pillow one year with a photo of Brady so they could dream of him when it wasn't their night.

    Hardest thing for her is that there is so much of Brady that isn't for Robyn. She shares a birthday with him so they don't get their own time on her birthday as he does with the other wives.

    Rosemary is a real homebody, says her most important place to be is their home.

    There are 2 homes, 3 wives in 1, 2 in the other. Each have their own kitchen and own bedroom. Rosemary is known as the gourmet cook.

    Rosemary's dau. says having 5 moms is like having 5 restaurants to choose from every night (I like this girl!)

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  12. Polygamous buzz words "rotate"

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    1. Drink every time you hear "rotate"... lol

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  13. The wives seem more organized...more ambitious...more likeable. I'm sure it's a front.

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  14. Just more neglected children who don't have a father but one day a week because he is busy bonking another woman next door.

    Poor children.

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  15. Rosemary met Brady and fell in love with him at 17. They married when she was 20.

    Hardest thing for her is that Brady isn't there all the time. Brady says she's very talented and a calming influence in his life. She's in school now to be a music ed teacher.

    She has always felt like Barbie and Sleeping Beauty are her sister wives while she's the chubby one. (*sad for Rosemary*)

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  16. Kody has more of an ick factor to me than Brady even though Brady has one more wife. So far anyway.

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    1. So far, this dude seems more genuine than Kody. He has a sweetness about him. I'm cringing typing that.

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  17. How sad...the chubby one...she feels she compares herself to the others....How freaking sad

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  18. Rosemary needs to workout with Janelle!!!

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    1. Yes! That's a great idea! I'd watch that show!

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  19. Brady has high BP and his meds aren't working so he tells her he needs to get healthier and he wants them to work together to be healthier.

    He says he still finds her attractive and thinks she's beautiful. Rosemary feels the same as most overweight women and worries if he really finds her attractive.

    *My heart is breaking. She has a very poor self image* Says she feels like a hippo exercising next to her ballerina sister wife.

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    1. Sad thing is a lot of women feel like this. Instead of it being sister wives, they compare themselves to their thinner friends. I'm a size 10 so not huge, but compared to my friend who is a size 3, I feel like a hippo and have had a few issues with it. I feel for this woman a lot. I'm tearing up just typing this.

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  20. Awww.... "I've always felt like I've had Barbie and Sleeping Beauty as sisterwives, and I'm just the chubby one. I can't compare." ...and she apparently has a lot of health issues that interfere with her ability to lose weight. She is breaking my heart here.

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  21. The producers just jump right in to the heavy stuff don't they?

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  22. Do we know which sect this family used to be a part of?

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    1. AUB, just like the Browns.

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  23. Brady is being awesomely supportive and I have to say he's saying all the right things. He says he'll be attracted to her forever no matter what she looks like.

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    1. Yeah..he really stepped into what could have been a landmine and navigated it respectfully and was supportive.

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    2. Either that or the script writers did a good job.

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  24. So sad!! So different than Sister Wives, seems more... honest.

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  25. I hope this one is better than Sister Wives.....

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  26. I hate that they had to talk about her weight like this, on national tv, when this is such a sensitive subject for her. However, I do like how much he went on to validate her appearance and his love for her. Different from Kodouche for sure.

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    1. Occupy the Cuddle-sacSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:00 PM

      I'm thinking Kodouche dug his show's own grave with the Nacho comment and too many PDA's with his V.S. model. Women don't want to watch a smug, insensitive clod week after week.

      It's only 6:55 here on the West Coast. I'm thinking I will save the debate episode until tomorrow and watch the Williams tonight.

      So sad about Rosemary. It must be absolutely sad to be alone in your room at night knowing your husband is doing another woman who is thin and hot, by society's beauty standards. I haven't even watched the show yet and just want to reach out and give her a hug based upon what you all are writing.



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  27. Poor Rosemary. I actually think she's the prettiest of the wives.

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    1. From the initial look, I thought she was the prettiest as well.

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  28. OMG !!

    Another plyg show with the women crying !!!

    And the man basking in the raw emotion of women desperate for his attention !!

    And this is "a good way" to live????

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  29. Can someone clarify - they no longer believe they need polygamy to get to heaven? Or did they just independent Mormon Plygs?

    The husband seems really effeminate to me - I think all his wives' estrogen is rubbing off.

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    1. They became independent polygamists, don't follow a church anymore.

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    2. So they're just kind of agnostics or atheists, but not Mormons or Christians or any specific category of believer?

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    3. With one wife wanting to have another baby and the other wife wanting to adopt, I think there is definitely some lingering Mormon religious sentiment, for the wives if not for the husband.

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    4. Occupy the Cuddle-sacSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      Well... Kody seems quite femme at times too.

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    5. Ssd for them, I thought so too. Same thing with Kody. Guess it comes from being with women all the time. I wonder if either man was ever masculine? Brady had a nice,soothing voice like a loving mom.

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    6. I noticed the feminine ways of the new husband also. Kody seems that way sometimes too. In the joolry designing scene when he says, "that is SO Christine". I really picked up some girlishness then also. Interesting.

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  30. Not really enjoying this program. Ran out of steam after the Brown's. Kinda only half paying attention.

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    1. Agreed. I think if they are addressing these things in the pilot, maybe to create drama right off the bat??, what are they going to talk about if this show actually gets picked up...

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    2. Agree !!

      Many, many thoughts about the "debate"....

      I think TLC goofed putting this one on right after the debate episode.

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    3. Me too. I much prefer Polygamy USA, or even (gasp!) the Browns. This is just the same old thing.

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  31. Something new and different...there will be more children if we can afford it. Kody....are listening.

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  32. Wow..he actually wants to stop and think before adding another kid.

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    1. I did like hearing him think about how much time he currently has with his kids and adding more.

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  33. Meeting Nonie. 4th wife, married 15 years with 5 kids. Raised in polygamy, knew she wanted to be a plural wife. Neck seems really red with a large rash while talking on camera one on one, like maybe she is embarrassed or very uncomfortable.

    Brady says it was tough for Nonie to get used to their family and the other 3 wives had been more reserved so it took her a while.

    She's the worrier, worries about money to pay bills. Recession hit Brady's business hard and they've had to cut back a lot. Nonie wants to have another child. Brady seems taken aback by that. He's concerned bout making a connection with each of his children every day and is worried about bringing another child into that. $$$ worries also for Brady. He needs to think about it, but Nonie just wants to know that he'd want something like that. He said yeah, just give me time to get it right in my head.

    Oh my....the teaser shows another wife wanting to adopt!

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  34. The family votes on bringing in new babies...is that what they just said. OMG

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    1. I got that impression as well... so far I had liked them, but if that's the case, it just feels wrong. Although they are a family, each wife (and husband) should have the right to make independent choices about their body. If it is true in this direction (voting not to have kids), is it true in the other direction (E.g., you haven't produced enough kids, get on that!)? I don't like it.

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  35. Sorry that I missed the first 2 wives in the spoilers.

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  36. Arwyn... really?? I'm surprised plygs read Tolkien.

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  37. Rhonda, 5th wife, 14 years married with 4 kids.

    Dated Brady briefly as a teen, married him 10 years later after he'd married everyone else.

    Works as a medical ass't.

    Rhonda's mom explained she wouldn't have much time with Brady as a 5th wife and she's been pleasantly surprised because she's had more time with him than she thought.

    Being w/o him on certain nights doesn't bother her because she was raised this way. She said it took 8 years before she felt 'at home' in the family.

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  38. The family votes on new babies. Well more than Hunter got on SW

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  39. Okay, adoption...they already have so many kids...what are they doing? They will bring another baby...a different race to educate their children...no way. That is so selfish.

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    1. Oh dear... using a minority adopted child to "educate" their children about diversity. Well that seems like a quote the adoption agency will want to pursue during the interview process. Not what they can give to the child, but what the child can give to them... Concerned about that being their primary motivation.

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    2. What disturbed me the most is that people think if you adopted a kid from another country, it will automatically be a different race. There are lots of eastern european kids who need to be adopted. Not just kids from Asia or Africa. That is the only issue I had with this show.

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    3. Bringing any child in the world with a job, such as to "educate", doesn't seem fair. I don't remember reading why they have so many children with tues different groups

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    4. I so agree with you.

      We heard the one say times have been tough as she was taking the close down from the line. Next scene - she wants to have a baby.

      And the other wife wants to adopt. I wonder if these women qualify as single moms and receive government assistance or food stamps. If she felt so strongly on adopting, why didn't she adopt in the first place and give a home to children in need.
      Would a plyg even qualify for adoption?

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  40. Honestly these ladies seem to get along better than the Brown wives. But as we saw with the Browns, first impressions are not always true ones.

    Rhonda is going to talk with Brady about adopting. She's not sure now is a good time.
    She's had a few miscarriages and almost bled to death so they've considered adoption before because she is afraid to do a pregnancy again.

    Brady isn't so sure about adoption. Rhonda is so upset, crying, saying kids out there have no one. Brady is discussing the money, 10s of thousands of dollars, Rhonda is thinking maybe outside the US would be good. Brady is prepared to check it out but it needs to be run by the other wives.

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  41. This family broke away from the A.U.B. but the church still owns their homes. Sad.

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  42. The bedroom conversations remind me of the Big Brother cinematography. It looks like they have mounted cameras in the room instead of a film crew.

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  43. How many kids do they have...24?

    He has hypertension and is worried about money...and they want to adopt??

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  44. Can someone please adopt a homeless pet or 2? Take the kids to the shelter and get a dang fur baby! It will be just as interesting and more logical...everyone has enuff kids - that's all, thank you.

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    1. Great idea! This show is already setting us up for drama. What part of "stretched thin" do they not understand? I wish I'd stuck to my guns and not watched. Tedious already. And the birthday drama! My head hurts.

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  45. How can they see this as good when they all are so jealous of him spending the night with the birthday wife and kissing her all in front of the other wives.

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  46. He has to manage other people's feelings...oh my what a misogynistic fool. He has all this power that he just loves. Crap...not liking him at all.

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  47. I promised myself I would not watch but could not help myself. So far this guy and his five wives are MUCH more likable than Kody and his 4. The wives seem intelligent and Brady has a sweet personality. If I had to choose between the 2 shows, give me this one any day.

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  48. I never watched Big Brother, but I'd say mounted cameras lead to more 'normal' conversations than having a crew in your bedroom.

    Each wife takes a night and cooks for all 30 people. YIKES! That is a lot of food!

    They do kisses for how old each wife is. 1st wife feels it's awkward and a little jealous making seeing the kisses and attention.

    Rosemary says jealousy for her is "like a wild animal" you have to keep it in a cage or it will tear you up.

    Brady is calling Robyn 'Aunt Robyn' in front of the kids. I guess they don't call them all mom like the Browns do. One of the wives is sad she can't be with Brady on his birthday (1st one I think). So he has to consider that and make sure they are all okay about that.

    Robyn says it's too complicated and she dreads her birthday every year since it's an issue of being with him every year. She said no matter what someone is unhappy.

    At least this guy seems to listen and look for solutions rather than Kody's way of blowing things off.

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    1. The sister wives did not look amused, nor did they count along while he slobbered kisses all over birthday girl. Looked cruel to me.

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    2. I was more creeped out at the we dont do birthday spankings we do kisses line.

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    3. The "kisses for years" birthday tradition of their was totally an "EWWWWW!" moment for me. Yuck. And then to cut to a reaction shot of each wife? UGH!
      I feel like a sicko because I kept watching and could not break free.
      C'mon, people. WHO KNOWS what this family is really like? Not us, not from a one hour special designed to show us how very "special" they are.
      I admit to having an 'underdog' weakness and felt sympathy for Rosemary.
      And the dude was a very handsome young man. The kind of young man, like Kody, to whom many young women would like to be married.

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    4. "And then to cut to a reaction shot of each wife? UGH!"

      Because of the magic of editing, the reaction shots might not have been taken during the kissing. They could have happened during something totally unrelated and then to introduce some controversy into the celebration, added during editing. Those story editors are crafty people. lol

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  49. Creepy all around... Referring to the sister wives as Auntie to the children ... Just creepy... Sorry.

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    1. I agree. I'm just as creeped out with this bunch as I am the Kody krew. I'm sorry but this lifestyle with a bunch of women fawning and fighting and crying over one man is definitely not for me. Glad to see them working through things as a family.

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    2. The "auntie" thing was also "EWWWWW".
      Who scripted this? The dude sure seems to have his Psych 101 notes up his sleeve...or are they up the producers sleeve?
      "Let's create another show about polygamy that showcases a man who is or seems or behaves in an inversely proportional way to Kody on SW. It seems to be what the people on SWB are looking for."
      BTW, I hope I have added my tithe to the "snark" collection.

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    3. It's common in AUB for women living with the same man to be called "Aunt" by the children. It's also the norm for all children and teens in the group to call any adult "Aunt" or "Uncle" whether they are related or not. This leads to very blurred boundary issues in my opinion, and helps contribute to the sexual abuse problem in polygamy. Not that all polygamists are abusers of course, but these communities are a set up for it.

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  50. I don't get the Aunt thing. Sister wives, but not sister moms I guess? I'd think maybe just call them Karen or Sue or Beth rather than Aunt.

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  51. Missed SW; will watch the rerun later. Can't wait! Sounds from comments here that it was pretty unbelievably infuriating.

    Don't think I like this show. Don't understand why the wives let their humiliations out for the whole world to see. Don't think this makes them, or the viewers, better.

    And just like Kody, the boss man seems to enjoy it all to much.

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    1. And just like Kody, he wasn't originally religious, but "at 16" decided that he wanted to be a polygamist. What a shocker! I can just imagine these guys thinking " I can have as many girls as I want! and it is okay because it is my religion. " Wow. What a great plan. Then later when they are older, they leave their religion and live their life the way they want to because they do not need to use the religion as the excuse for the 5 wives anymore.
      I was not going to watch this show tonight , but had it on while I was reading the posts from tonight's SW. I will not be watching anymore episodes. These women make me sad, and the husband makes me angry.

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  52. Family forum meeting. All the adults sit down and resolve issues that need to be resolved.

    Birthday issue is 1st up. Robyn wants to celebrate her b'day a different day. This is obviously a hot topic as the wives are getting defensive right away. The first solution offered, someone snapped right away. You can tell this is a BIG issue with all of them.

    Adoption is the last thing up on the docket. Rhonda discusses adoption with the other wives. You can see the wives facial expression kind of closing down. Nonie very emotional, wants to know if she wanted another child, if that would be supported.

    Robyn and her kids feel Brady is overstretched at this point.
    Another one wants to know if a polygamist family would be allowed to 'provide a loving home because of this stigma.' Brady is ready to 'fight for that right'.

    1st wife finds it scary because it would be expensive and maybe not worth it. Brady discussing financial bumps in the road, legal bumps, how it affects the kids. Rhonda says it will break her heart if her sister wives stop this from happening.

    It's being left open to consider.

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  53. Bunch of cry babies so far, another baby plot. I don't think I got the interest to follow this nonsense.

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  54. IDK if this will make it to a show, this may be it.

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  55. Is it because they live with so many wives or is it the polygamy men that I've seen are just so feminine? What's up with that.

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    1. I agree with Kody and now Brady, but I personally don't include Joe Darger.

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  56. How creepy and cruel to kiss the wife so many times all over the face and neck in front of the others
    Robyn did NOT enjoy it, Brady definitely did.

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  57. I actually like calling them Aunt, more than calling them Mom. But the whole polygamous thing just seem like way to much work and heartbreak to me!

    And thry spend so much time discussing everything among the wives and him, when do they spend time with the kids?!

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  58. Make no mistake, there still pligs, I dont care if they broke away from the AUB or not, there pligs, and its illegal,
    On another note, just got back from the Sisterwives fb page, the fans are so rabid in there love for the Brownettes, some have said they want to smack the makeup off the Blond dummy,, there words , surely not mine, what effin kool-aid do there people drink, there so far out there, was going to repl to some of them but I long ago got banned for hate speech, which was just some fans reporting it as such, God I hate how stupid they are

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    1. I get that even though they broke away from the church they are still plygs, but for me personally, it seemed a little more easier to handle because there wasn't that religious cornerstone. Makes me wonder if I have an issue with the religion itself.

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  59. I thought it was rather boring - not enough Sister Wives drama ;)

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  60. I would be a lot more interested in them talking about why they decided to move away from their religious beliefs. I am glad that they decided to stay together if they wanted to- it seems like the husband leaving the wives even if they wanted to remain in a relationship would be worse. However, since they have mentioned the split with their religion, I think that would make a mighty interesting story line.

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  61. I wonder if they get teary at every meeting, every week. That would be rough. I agree with some previous comments about Brady enjoying being the center of the women's attention, even if he's not as over the top as Kody.

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  62. Oh great...another show featuring sister wives who process happiness in their lives and lifestyles yet they seem so emotionally fragile and can cry at the drop of the hat. *yawn*

    And this big silly birthday thing, Good Lord, so immature. Maybe it's just me but I feel that making a big deal of birthdays should be done for children and seniors only. Nothing more off-putting to me, than to watch a group of women vying for the attention and affection of one man. But again, that's just me. I was never one to compete for a guy or his attention/affection.

    Sorry but these women are brainwashed into believing that they're happy. The only one who really benefits in this lifestyle is the man...what an ego boost, women jealous and fighting over him, having a different and eager/willing wife every night of the week pretty much....must make him feel like a big stud. You think these women ever say no to sex when it's their night to sleep with him? No way they do because of the underlying jealousy that can't help but exist.

    And shameful that with 24 kids you have another situation where there is one Dad who can't possibly spend good quality time, 1:1 time with these kids as a father should.

    I won't be watching this show. I've had enough of Polygamy. I prefer to watch shows that are inspirational and I can relate to...that show confident, empowered women who aren't always whining and crying. God.

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  63. My impressions: I don't really believe the wives get along all that well with each other.

    Seem to have way to much input into each other wives lives. So, can the 2 wives agree to "vote" for each others wants? I'll 'let' you have a baby if you 'let' me adopt a child. Yuck. What a way to live and love!

    I do like that they all seem to have careers or career goals. Papa Bear seems smarter and kinder than Koduche.

    Think they 'really want' a show; they sure put lots of drama issues out there tonight!

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  64. Yawn...*another* baby plot.

    Another plyg guy woefully explaining how hard it is for him to deal with all the women.

    Another table discussion premise made to look candid and spontaneous.

    Another private chat scenario between plyg hubby and wife # whatever curled up on their bed....and then another....and another...and another...and another.

    And wonder of wonders...another wife named Robyn prone to downcast eyes and tears.
    Could there be two Sobbins on the planet?

    After the wrenching debate on SW and the hatchet job of editing to favor the Browns...
    Does the world really need another show of Plygs wanting to be celebrities, and making their fluffy version overshadow the "real" issues of Polygamy.????

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  65. OMG I think I spent a little too much time in their bedrooms. There is either Sister Wives with "None of That" or this show with "All of That" I feel a little sick at this point right now - I think TLC went overboard.

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  66. Am I mistaken I thought some of Brady's wives were related... They didn't mention in tonite show... Then again plygamy is so confusing to begin with!!

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  67. In the opening sequence it looked like the "husband" was going from motel room to motel room...guess he is the only one with an alarm...;-) Ridiculous! I stopped watching...

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  68. Amused, you took the words right out of my mouth about another Sobbin, OMG! Too many tears, too much work...But they are so happy in their lifestyle....

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  69. 29 seconds in and Nonie has a fever blister.

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  70. As much as these wives want to convince the world that their lifestyle produces happy couples and families, you can see in their eyes that it isn't so. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they don't have the same interpersonal issues that the Kodettes have as sharing a man produces a lot of drama. Wheather they want to admit it or not, they're each in competition with the other 4 wives, and always will be. And that leads to tension, heartache and misery.

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  71. Three of these women are cousins - Nonie, Rhonda, and Robyn

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  72. Looks like the Browns hitting the $$$ jackpot with their show has inspired other plygs with mega kids to want to ride that money train.
    Not to mention TLC figuring if one show works, why not two.

    And if and when this group places themselves under the viewers' microscope (for money), will they bitch and moan "persecution" like the Browns do when the public expresses frank opinions and observations??

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  73. What struck me after watching this is the wedding photos - the new wife is sort of smiling. The other wives look absolutely grim.

    Another is how sad these women are. Sad and stressed and tired and insecure. The only one who consistently seemed content was the guy.

    Also the kids all seemed like a grim lot. There were a few smiles, but almost all seemed sad.

    One final thing -- the birthday controversy seemed to me to be utter nonsense. These are all adult women, and they are so upset about when and how to celebrate the guy's birthday? What adult cares so much about celebrating birthdays - to me those are for kids. To me, this strikes of jealousy -- the wives - some of them anyway -- want to compete to give the guy a special birthday night, but they can't because it is on the same day as another wife's birthday.

    As far as the guy, the smarmy sweet attitude he had struck me as sort of repelling. Maybe he is a great guy but the more I saw the less I liked him. And the more I pitied the women. Those women did not look happy. He looked thrilled of course. He's got five women catering to him. They get one night out of five and a "love pillow" to remind them of their loneliness the other nights.

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  74. I have to respectfully disagree with my fellow posters here. I found the show very refreshing after the last couple of years with the Browns. I will admit that I never bought into the Browns as a model for modern day polygamy. However, even for those that did there are some very remarkable differences here.

    1. The family actually works outside of the home.
    2. They do not appear to pretend that money grows on trees.
    3. The father does seem to try to spend time with each wife and family.
    4. They do seem willing to express the big problems right from the beginning. ie. not denying jealousy and weight/health issues.
    5. I do like the fact that even if the issues concerning money are discussed between husband and "wife" they are also brought to the group if said husband and wife decide to carry forward on them and they will affect the family budget.
    6. I do like that they gather for dinner 5 nights a week and potluck on Sunday. This would tend to keep the family unit that we do not see on the Brown's.

    I would much rather watch these people interact then I would the Browns.

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    1. You're not alone in your opinion. I felt the same way. It will be interesting to see how the show evolves. I think that the lack of religion in their lifestyle will make it seem less like they are "selling" their lifestyle more than just allowing people to view it. Time will tell though.

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    2. Agree with Anon 10:54. The Williams' are a family and the wives seem down to earth. They have jobs and seem very industrious at home. At one glimpse of the yard, I thought I saw a garden. They eat dinner together and seem interested in preparing food for one another. The Browns wander in circles, get their nails done and order take out.

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    3. I'm with ya Anon. I liked the show for all of the same reasons that you pointed out especially because they seemed to be open with each other and weren't afraid to admit to the issues they experience in polygamy and discuss them. They actually seemed to be actively working to keep the whole family together rather than splintering off into individual families.

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  75. Early in the show, Brady described going from church to church and leaving them, saying that they feel like outcasts and have no friends. Well, every Brown tweeted about how people should watch their "friends," thw Williams family. So, Brady, it seems like you have friends in the Browns. There's no way the Browns would exaggerate their relationship, right? Since they are always so honest and forthright. I guess I am just a masochist who enjoys having his intelligence insulted on a weekly basis.

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  76. I don't see this - I'm sorry if this was asked/answered. The house that is talked about in the article from '97 - is that the house in Utah that the Browns lived in?

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    2. No it is not. They live in another home. It's from the post above, Funky Town.

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  77. I cannot wrap my head around the concept of women on the verge of tears so consistently, yet trying so very hard to convince us how happy they are...

    Tabloidlover

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  78. Yes the bday thing seems such a bizarre thing to have trouble problem solving. His birthday is no longer x. His birthday will be celebrated by having a group date with all of them on his half birthday. Solved. In a twenty year span they would each get him to themselves 4 times. If they take turns. Yippee! This poor girl can't even enjoy her birthday.

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    1. The birthdays ma ke sences to me. They only get a special day 2 times a year with the man in monogomus relationship the wife has her husband every day for all the the big and small celibrations. So an extra night every 5years is some thing to look forward too. They should mover her birthday or his by a few days and settle the issue.

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  79. The only thing I enjoyed about this show is the fact that they one-upped the Brown Clowns. Not only are they considering one of the women having another baby, but the have one pushing for adoption.All this in the same episode where of of them is hanging clothes out on a line to dry because the dryer is broke and they can't afford another.Also Brady said something along the lines of usually in plyg families the first wife is Queen Bee, but not in his. I would have to think that's not the way his first wife sees things. Maybe it's just me, but I could see her distaste for her sister wives every time one of the had something and then the cameras went to her.She looked miserable when the others were laughing.

    another thing, if all these women (including Kody's crew) are so happy, why all the tears?


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    1. Please don't base your opinion of any of the wives on their reactions to something that happened on camera. Editing in a shot of someone crying or angry or smiling is done regularly for impact and to guide the story the way the editors think will make more interest and provide controversy. They're trying to sell a tv show/story. A smile and laughs could be edited in to create the character and help the viewers believe someone is funny and everyone is having a good time and the same thing happens with tears.

      If you don't see what leads up to the tears in the same shot, with the same camera, it's been edited in. It's not always fake, but many, many times it is.

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  80. I really like the 5 wives show better they seem more real then the fake BROWNS. Hope TLC picks this up as a reg show.

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  81. Sorry for so many typos in the 11:24 post. I was drinking shots every time one of these happy folks cried.LOL

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  82. Another thing that irritates me about these shows = even though I don't think it is right to put the kids' lives on tv - is that it is all about the guy and his baby mommas. Tho supposedly this lifestyle is all about bringing souls into the world. Show a guy who has a schedule to interact with each of his kids, and not just worry about rotating from one woman's bed to another. The kids are always neglected, because the guy is so busy failing to give all the women the attention they need, the kids get no attention at all.

    Thia guy talked about giving kids attention, but we saw no proof of that - which to me implies it is all talk. You tell the camera each wife gets one night out of five. Does each kid get an hour a day one day out of XX (I can't remember how many kids he had) Because if there was a schedule for the kids, I think it would have been shown. And it wasn't, proving to me there probably isn't one. Once again, the most vulnerable get the short end.

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  83. This may be petty but, what is up with the dirty feet in bed???? Why??? Who does that?

    I do find this family more believable than SW.............for now. They do seem to have personalities, voices and issues that mimick the SW ladies. Already, not a fan of the crying.

    Missy

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  84. After reading most of the previous comments I see a general theme of dislike for Sister Wives and how over produced the show is. I'm not sure that going public helped their efforts to become more accepted in society. I cringe watching Kody and just get disgusted by how they try to hide their dysfunction. I hope M5W talks about why they left their religion.... maybe that will keep us interested?

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  85. Brady, dude, ditch all those short sleeved, striped, tshirts. Uggggh!

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  86. uhhh, get over your freaking birthday! celebrate the kids and move on, gross already

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  87. can u imagine having to check with another woman, or several for that matter, about having another baby?

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  88. This was one time viewing for me. What a bunch of dullards, and sad, insecure women. Just a horrible vibe from this bunch. Creeped out by Gravy constantly touching a wife's thigh, and all the slobbery kisses with four other steely faces watching in discomfort.

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  89. Dear TLC. Please change the season finale of the Browns to the finale of the
    Browns. Bring them back in 5 years in a "where are they now?" episode.

    PS Do a season of the Williams. They are a lot more interesting.

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    1. Has it registered with everyone yet that next week is a 2 hour season finale of Sister Wives? Holy moly! I agree - make this be the last show of them ever. Let's move on to the Williams for a refreshing change of pace.

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  90. Just watching it now.. please give the admin time to get some rest before publishing all of the posts... :D I will be posting a LOT but they need some sleep.. :)

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  91. They focus way to much on the wife's time for a bed mate. The Dad is the one who should be called Uncle in their lifestyle. No way do the children get the same bonding as they would with a father with only one wife.

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  92. To my 5 Wives was incredibly awkward to watch! They kept saying that they loved the family and they loved their sister wives but their pain was so evident. They all had huge insecurities that were magnified by being in this attention seeking relationship. The expressions of the ladies were overwhelming to me as a viewer. They are obviously hurting and jealous and have acknowledged that the worst part of polygamy is that the husband, Brady, isn't with them every night yet they continue to live this in this situation! The entire show was awkward (too much overly affectionate bedroom time), frustrating (seeing the pain these women put themselves through just so they won't "burn forever" -wife #1). I truly hope & worry that with TLC airing so many polygamy shows that no trends are started

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    1. You don't understand the pressure put on these people to live this way so they will be able to live with God again and procreate in the next life. So much of their decision to live this lifestyle is based on that. Now that they are in it and they have broken away from their church, why would they want to break up their family and put their kids through that. ?? Not to mention they love their husband and their family as a whole. Yes, there is pain and heartache, but you make the best of it.

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    2. The second wife has been married to the dude for what, 20 years or so and is JUST NOW crying about not wanting to have her birthday on the same day and not wanting any of the other wives mad at her regarding this arrangement that seems to have been going on for like 20 years? Are you freakin kidding me?
      Yes, this is no fairy tale.
      "Since the recession money has been real tight". How about "Since the recession and the success the Browns have had on TLC showcasing somewhat scripted lives perhaps we, too, could ride the gravy train?"

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    3. Yes, the Williams wives' sad faces and admitted jealousies mirror what we've seen now for years on Sister Wives. If they've truly turned their back on a religion that requires plural marriage and they allow their children to choose their own path in life with no AUB indoctrination that's all to the good. But, their children - like the Brown children - will witness on television just how tremendously insecure, jealous and deprived their mothers are because they are sharing one man. Even if the children aren't able to watch it on TV now - eventually, with social media, they will see it.

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  93. OMG, not another polygamist show, really? These two shows are not about polygamist and there family BUT are about one-sided male dominant poly relationship?

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  94. I liked this family a lot more than the Browns. They actually live the polygamy lifestyle. The Browns seemed to live polygamy the first season, then it went to separate families. The fact that they live with each other,and see each other at family dinner each night seems like they won't be able to hide the drama like the browns did. The browns just seemed to avoid each other if they were upset/didn't like another wife. And my favorite aspect of this family is some of them have JOBS ! We wont have to see this family sit around the table trying to come up with get rich schemes. I sorta even liked the adoption/have another baby theme. Why they would want to adopt after having so many kids is beyond me. I would hate it if the adoption turns into a legal thing like the browns and their lawsuit. But if its just a story line of how they can't adopt I would like that. Also the one that wants to have another baby, I thought it was weird that he had to think about it and discuss it as a family. Im really curious how those conversations would play out. And Im wondering why they left the church ? Especially since they pray and have a church type service. Im wondering if the AUB has banned tv shows from their church ?

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    1. They do not discuss having another baby as a family. Nonie just brought that up, and as Rosemary said, it was very inappropriate. No ban on tv shows either.

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    2. I'm pretty sure they have a few 'screenplay' ideas jotted down in case the show gets picked up.
      1) like Janelle, an overweight wife that all the ladies can get behind
      2) baby drama
      3) baby drama
      4) health drama (high bp)
      5) not all wives agree (Rosemary calling out Nonie as 'inappropriate')
      I won't be getting sucked into another version of polygamist theatre. I will watch the Browns since I've stuck with it this far; I feel the need for some sort of closure.
      My husband told me a funny story once: "My buddies and I were hanging out one night and Joe said to Norm, 'Norm, I don't like your girlfriend. She's such a b*tch.' To which Norm said 'Yeah, but she's MY b*tch!'
      That's kind of how I feel about SW versus the My 5 Wives Show.
      My strange kind of loyalty.
      Snark.

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    3. I think Sister Wives has jumped the shark. I'd be happy if the Williams replaced them as the only plyg show on TLC. Maybe the Williams (since they actually hold jobs and work for a living) will be grateful for and appreciate the TLC money coming in and be good stewards of it for their family rather than squander it on wild business schemes and McMansions. I was sad to hear the words jealous and jealousy used repeatedly by the 5 wives. At least, so far, Williams himself seems more sensitive and educated than Kody and perhaps is a better husband and father. We shall see... I hope TLC gives us more shows. I am so completely over Sister Wives. They don't deserve another season or more money. Their greed did them in with most viewers.

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    4. The straw that broke the camel's back for this family was when a couple of the women ran foul of church leaders by getting their ears pierced. LeMoine Jenson, head of AUB had recently put that on the banned list. Up to that time the Williams were on the fast track to getting the highest blessings members can get in their temple. He was the bishop of Rocky Ridge. I think they just decided that it was all too repressive and that the Joseph Smith story had no credibility.

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  95. The one image forever seared into my brain is the little blonde headed girl who was having her hair curled "over or under" and the absolute stink eye she was giving whatever "mama/auntie" trying to doll her up. Then again, in pics, TLC briefly shows this child and her surly mug for a few seconds in two other shots. Interesting. Out of the mouths of babes.

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  96. This family has addressed everything in one pilot that the Brown's nixed as taboo in so many seasons from rotation, jealousy, weight issues, religious struggles, eeking by in a devastating economy, more kids...even adoption outside their race. And the wife showing off her non wetbar as her usual area to paint was brilliant. I think TLC has thrown down the gauntlet for the Browns and upped the anty. In TLC terms, they have a family who has thrown it ALL out there, show #1 and now can turn to the Browns and say "Hey, we got you out of Utah, built you homes, gave you a bogus biz that only .000832 of the US population would even look at so NOW WHAT?!"

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  97. I like that this show shows a different side to polygamist family. But I have to say from watching the first show, it is very easy to see which wife is his favorite. He definitely does NOT treat them equally in my opinion. And definitely is not a Cody Brown! I could never have sister wives but watching the relasionships the Brown's have makes it tempting...watching this family makes it real. I love the Brown's & would love to meet them some day...this family makes it clear why most people are against this type of marriage/family.

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  98. I did find this family more "real" that the Browns, but I agree that there was something off with the wives. You could see it in their eyes.

    When the "baby" discussion came up, my anger flared. My husband and I just found out that the little one we were hoping to adopt will be staying with family and not coming to us. We have been working on this for a year, got the green light and now its over. That is OK, it is about the child not us. But it sure felt to me that adding kids to this family is like "buying a new pair of shoes". And OMG! Lets get one from another country, it's only $10,000. Really? Where? Last I checked the cost is closer to $20,000. What about buying a kid "domestically"? Don't the kids here in the US need a good home? You can even adopt a child of a different ethnicity in your own county. (Oh wow! Really?!?) And you can get them for free! Win! WIN! Our almost baby is two, yes two different ethnicity's than us and I couldn't care less. She is perfect. So, this family want's to adopt a child to teach diversity and because one of the moms only has 4 kids? OK, that makes sense.

    And mom #4 want's another baby because she only has 5 children and just has a few more child bearing years left in her? Uh huh, because her sister wife want's to adopt. Well, that makes a LOT of sense too!

    I agree with the commenter that suggested a "new" furry child. Much better idea.

    My last bit of snark is when they had the family meeting and one wife started to cry, then the next... I started to giggle because they reminded me of a room full of babies. One cries, then the next, then the next, and so on and so on. LOL!

    Unbelievable!

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    1. She would never qualify as a single mother with four bio kids. International requirements are more strict than domestic.

      The need to have several children in this lifestyle boggles my mind. I get the sadness of not being able to have a child every time you want but as a woman who was unsuccessful in fertility and successful in adoption the fact she was crying about this while holding a child in diapers, with 3 kids roaming about her wing and a dozen more bonus children I was a bit offended. There is not surplus of infants just sitting in cradles waiting to be a adopted. For one to need to parent more than 18 kids crying prejudice keeping the from 18 bothers me. It bothers me he said he didn't want one wife to get pregnant while supporting another wife adding to the clan. There are more couples waiting to have one child through adoption. Turning her desire into a humanitarian effort is offensive. There are children in so called orphanages not because their parents are bad or dead. Just a more efficient way to keep them alive and educate them. And answer to poverty. What tens of thousands would do in the hands of their bio families! Some kids don't have ties to families. And this is a tragedy. The race issue huge. To put a child in an all white environment isn't okay cause the family themselves doesn't care about race. What about the child. They don't live in a diverse area, the child will never see their face in church or school or going to the doctor.

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  99. I get such a Jim Jones/ David Koresh/Manson/Tom Cruise vibe from these guys. Their eyes are wild, they can't sit still, they bluster and and get so defensive about the smallest question thinking they are so persecuted. It's odd, to say the least. The women are so quiet and dejected. But the little blonde girl and her steely-eyed, disembodied stare they showed, repeatedly, is creepy as it can be!

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  100. Did anyone else notice that almost all of the wives that didn't "get him for the night" had a child sleeping in their bed?

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  101. This show makes me sick. These women have very low self-esteem and it’s really sad they have been brain washed into thinking its normal to allow your husband to cheat on your daily and to accept it as a natural part of life. 5 wives and 24 children and some of the woman want more children; do they thinking having more children will win more of the husband’s time? This man spends a couple of minutes with each family member every day, if they are lucky. These woman were raised to be weak and are raising their daughters to be just as week.

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  102. Where is "Northern Utah"? What city?

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  103. We've had how many hours with the Browns vs just 1 with the Williams crew. So you know, I reserve the right to revoke this comment later but...

    I really liked the Williams'.
    Brady is WAY more likeable than Kody, at least on camera.
    The wives seem to get along better, not perfectly, but better.

    But they've been married for 15-21 years. What would be good reality tv is to find a plyg couple that has been married a year and starts adding wifes...see all the true feelings from the beginning!

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  104. I didn't even watch the last 15 minutes because this family was so boring. I felt absolutely terrible that wife #3 had that weight conversation with her husband on national TV - scripted or not. Anyone overweight has those insecurities and to have that conversation taped would just be humiliating! All for a paycheck! I hope this was a one-time special.

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  105. Darn it, I got home late from a dinner, missed the entire SW episode and 1/3 of the Brady Wives special…lucky they are dvrd.
    So maybe I missed something…but why was Nonie practically begging to have the option of having another baby, with Brady acting very much like he was giving it the correct wording so she would not become hysterical? But then when Rhonda wanted to adopt, Brady was seemingly more open to it? And it would cost a lot less money for a bio baby with Nonie and we just heard how tight money is and how spread thin he already feels with the kids. I thought that was odd. I am not trying to be mean or insensitive but I kind of read that as Nonie may have some ‘issues’ (maybe she gets extreme postpartum depression??). The way they all kind of tiptoed around her wanting another baby spoke very loudly to me. She needed the group to be open to her having another baby and she needed to know it was an option? And she looked on the verge of completely breaking down over it.

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  106. Why is it they can share a husband, but not a dryer? They have five dryers in the "house", but when one goes out, the woman tells her husband she has to dry clothes on the line because she has "no other options". She can't shout down or across to ask to use a SW dryer? (not that drying clothes on the line is a big deal) That is just bizarre. Some family.

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  107. I missed the Sister Wives episode, but I did catch the premier of My 5 Wives. I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. I don't have a feel yet for the kids after this first episode.

    I do think that #4 Noni is DRAMA and is more the Alpha wife than #1 Paulie. I am going to guess that there is a lot of internal eye-rolling by the other wives when she pipes up. HAHA!

    I keep hearing the wives say they chose the polygamous lifestyle. I say when it's your only choice as a means to salvation, it's not reallly the same as me choosing a monogomous lifestyle.

    Also, I slept horribly last night after watching this show. The REAL reason for polygamy is so disturbing to me and at a really deep level, I am realizing. I woke up feeling such heavy despair for these women. I still haven't shaken it.

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    1. I agree. My lasting impression from this show was the sad, sad eyes of all those women. Sad and confused while claiming they love this situation. The kids mostly seemed sad too. The only happy person going around dispensing soothing words to all the sadness was the guy "managing" emotions. It gave me the creeps. I didn't see any joy in that group at all. Even the birthday celebration was creepy.

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  108. I think the fake on this show was hard to wade through. The wives are really like-able but the husband? He truely creeped me out. I'm assuming that he's either sugary and sweet in a way to always manipulate his way or he's usually a little tougher and thats why all the wives seemed on edge.

    I have to rewatch though, toddler screaming for paw patrol half way through :)

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  109. Did anyone watch the Dateline special "UNBREAKABLE" about Polygamy (Warren Jeffs is mentioned)? It's really good - I'm watching it now.

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  110. I liked this family much more than the Browns! They are a lot more open and answer what we all want to know and the Brown's won't tell us. Brady brought a bottle with him to say good morning to one wife, it just seems more realistic than the Brown's set up of he only sees me and my kids on MY night, which we have NO clue of how or when that is because the Brown's won't discuss their schedule. My husband thinks the reason they won't discuss it because it's not a fair one every four night rotation. We have read that in plyg communities once a wife can no longer produce children the husband takes her off the rotation and focuses on his newer more fertile wives. I'm not saying Kody completely does this, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't manage to give Robbin extra nights and used the procreation excuse. Either way, I liked the new,family better, but yet again it proved to me how unhappy this lifestyle makes people. Those women are always crying...it breaks my heart. How Rosemary compares herself to her other differences was also heartbreaking. I have struggled with my weight my whole life and can't imagine the pain I would feel if my husband had other skinnier wives. I've never known the pain of,having to compare myself to my husband's other wives and can only imagine how hurtful that would be. I started my interest in polygamy with my favorite show of all time Big Love, I have watches the Brown's since the beginning and every other plyg show on TV. For the longest time I thought live and let live....they aren't hurting anyone so what's the problem. Now after years of watching my opinion has changed. I believe they are hurting someone, the women and children involved in even the healthiest plyg family is sad to me.

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  111. I have six children, and my husband is a stay at home dad. He's there all day long with the kids, and STILL doesn't feel like they get enough attention--with all the work around the house to do, he feels like he can't spend the quality time with them that he wants.

    This Brady guy has a full time job, FIVE wives to please, and TWENTY-FOUR children to raise!!

    If each wife and her kids get to see the dad once a week, that means that, assuming his job has decent hours, and he tries to make time for each kid, then each kid MIGHT get a half an hour a week of time with the dad.

    That is the saddest thing I've ever heard. I feel bad for my own kids, because we don't have enough time for them--and there's only six of them, and there are no other wives for my husband to please. It makes me unbelievably sad to think of how terrible it must be for these kids when they need their dad, and he won't be there for them. My kids feel it when they want time with their dad, and he's too busy to stop and spend it with them, at that moment...I can only imagine how Brady's children feel, when he can't spend time with them for another five days!

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  112. "Aunt" doesn't make sense. How can the mother of your half-sibling be your aunt? The kids are not cousins, they're half-sisters and half-brothers. How about "Sister Mom"? or "Sister Aunt"? That goes to show you how freakin' confusing this lifestyle must be to children.

    And don't give me "we want to educate the public about this lifestyle" crap. Just like the Browns (although at least they were the first), this family is out to make a bunch of moolah. They need it, of course. It doesn't look as though all the wives work and there are so many, many children. But to expect a TV show to fund your lifestyle is just plain wrong. If you can't afford it, don't do it.

    This lifestyle might have worked back in the day when people lived off the land, but in today's economy having multiple wives (some of whom are not contributing financially) and dozens of children is a drain.

    Also, don't be fooled, if this family becomes regulars on TLC we eventually will all have many of the same issues with them as we do with the Browns.

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    1. Traditionally another mother in the family has been called aunt. It's a sign of respect. Other families just called them mother and then the woman's name. In other families like the browns they use the first name of the mother.

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  113. I so agree with Bemused Bystander at 2:31 AM re. the birthday thing suddenly becoming an issue after 10-20 years. Give me a break!! Talk about manufactured drama for TV! So, the "issue" was there "festering" and just happened to reach its bursting point when TV cameras were present? Surely even the most devoted fan cannot buy such nonsense. And trying to make "deals" with human life---you can have a baby, if I can adopt one---sick, sick, sick.

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  114. My 5 Wives has convinced me that Polygamy is in NO WAY a healthy lifestyle for women.....It is a mind game for them, just so sad to see them emotionally beat themselves up....I will not watch.

    These people also need money, once they get some TLC paychecks under their belt....it will get worse. Just like the Browns.

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  115. I really didn't care for the new show. I was creeped out by the way he went to each wife in the morning and the house from the outside reminded me of a Motel. I thought each of the women where mousey, frightened and oh my gosh we have more crying. The whole thing with the birthday was so childish I don't think any of these women have grown up.

    The whole thing with Brady he had never heard of polygamy. He was main stream LDS and the church owns you mind, body and sole and they are to believe what the church tells them and if the church says no polygamy there is no polygamy in their eyes. To give you an example there is a young man who is in a Christian Band (he left the LDS church) he didn't find out until he was going to BYU that Joseph Smith was a polygamist because the church doesn't teach that. Out of sight out of mind.

    Personally, I think there are more FLDS in the state of Utah than non members of the LDS. (There are 3 groups in Utah, LDS, FLDS and everyone else no matter what religion you belong is considered a non-member)

    Back to Brady and his clan - So now that they no longer belong/believes the ways of the FLDS and that having plural marriage will get you your own planet, he is just sticking with his Harem.

    I find the Browns more entertaining and likable but I do think they need to up their game, it is getting a bit boring.

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    1. Just to clarify, the term FLDS refers to the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This is Warren Jeffs' polygamist group. Other polygamists often refer to themselves as simply "Fundamentalists" or "Mormon Fundamentalists." These Fundamentalists may be independent of any group or may belong to such other polygamist groups as the Kingstons, Centennial Park, and AUB, etc. Many people who leave the LDS church and join polygamist groups do so because they study their religion and DO know about polygamy, and that it was once taught as an "essential" for exaltation in Mormon heaven. That is one of the the rationales for all of these women feeling compelled to live it. I was one of them.

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  116. After reading the comments here and watching the show twice, I feel that these people are showing a more accurate picture of real life. The family does work and worry about money. They do eat together. They do have real life issues and face them head on as exampled by weight loss health issue and the cant get a dryer today issue.

    The one thing that stuck me was the bedroom talk that everyone thinks is funny. Let's face it, parents with children living at home usually retreat to the privacy of the bedroom for talks about serious issues. This is not weird, it is responsible parenting to keep issues that children can not understand or should not be privy too out of their hearing.

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  117. OK, is it me or does this group seem to have a parallel dynamic to the Browns?

    Meri=Nonie: She's cranky and emotional (and narcisstic, but that's just my opinion about Meri :))... likes things "neat"... wants her baby-drama to be the focus of the family and all of the rest of the family's decision.

    Janelle=Rosemary: And I don't mean this at all from the shared "chubby" thing, but rather that these two are the most practical... when Rosemary said, "Eh... when he's here, he's here and when he's not, he's not" I thought, "yeah, Janelle would say the same thing."

    Christine=Robin: Pretty and nice and wanting to be a team player, but you can tell she just really wants the husband to herself... not in a selfish way, but more of a I-need-love way.

    Robin=Paulie: I'm going to try my hardest to come off as the nicest one, but just you wait and see...

    The addition of the 5th wife who wants to think "beyond the family" and adopt. Holy Moly... that would throw the Browns into a freaking tailspin!!

    That's just my observation. :)

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    1. I think noni is Robyn. I think rhonda is Meri.

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  118. I like this show better than MSW!!! Already seems to be more interesting story lines!! Makes for good tv!! You can see the wives are all jealous and the crier of the group is yet another gal by the name of Robyn- great- but, I hope it gets picked up!! Next Sunday is the finale of sw already- didn't it just begin??

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  119. When the Brady Williams show was announced someone claiming to be from his AUB congregation wrote to the blog saying that Brady had climbed high in the administration of their sect. He left because folks felt he was too controlling and wanting to run lots of folks lives in an ultra-conservative way. The post made me think about that child we all knew who frequently said, "If you don't play my way, I'll go home." And LOL, we all hoped that is exactly where the child would go. Brady's comment about not having many friends may be the consequence of more than just leaving his AUB congregation.

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    1. Very interesting, Anon 12:57.
      Though the Brady family asserts that they are no longer affiliated with a religious group, they clearly still hold onto their beliefs to some degree. They were shown praying after their little group in the kitchen meeting.
      Brady might actually turn out to be WAY more offensive than the Kodester.
      I feel like Brady is shown as being saccharine-sweet and compliant and gentle with the wives; my feeling is that this is a charade, and perhaps a big one.
      Better the enemy you know than the enemy you don't.

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  120. For the Browns, it seems to me that it is one man who struggles with his own masculinity, hence his constant push to validate his own masculinity and coolness; however, that man needs to not only validate his maculinity, he needs others to validate it also. He marries multiple women for the sake of having four women boost his ego and feed his own idea of what makes a man a man and we know this because whereever he is, he has to say, yeah, my wives...and the guy went dude you're the man. This adolscent attitude that he has of masculinity being tied to sex has overode the basic ideas of adult men...show not tell. For Kody, he has to tell.
    My opionion of this alpha male is still out but he seems to also need to have his male worth validated. I wonder if these actions are not the two men trying to keep some hidden or buried sexuality secret from bursting forth...like they may be a little to feminine. You know.

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    1. Ya think? My thoughts exactly. Deeply closeted. Perhaps not even fully aware.

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  121. The fifth wife started crying about wanting to help a child in need, but I didn't understand why she went straight to foreign adoption? I'm definitely in support of foreign adoption, especially for those who can't get pregnant and want the chance to be able to experience having a baby, instead of adopting when the child's a bit older. But Rhonda already got to have four beautiful children of her own, not to mention being around most of her sister wives' kids when they were newborns. The family gave me the impression they are tight on money right now. I mean Brady is even hesitant to let the 4th wife have her own baby because adding another child to the budget would be difficult. Why would he let Rhonda incur all those adoption fees plus what the baby will cost when it's a part of the family? I was under the impression adopting from foster care is free. Sure foster kids might not be newborns, but they are the ones who can have a lot of difficulties finding loving homes. I'm not sure how difficult it would be to convince the courts a polygamous home would be a good placement for the child, but I'm sure it'd be easier than trying to adopt a newborn from a foreign country. If anyone has experience with adoption, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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