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Sunday, September 15, 2013

2 Sister Wives "Sister Wives On the Ropes" s04e09 Spoilers, Gossip



Tweets during show from Funky Town, who worked overtime tonight!

Sean, really? REALLY? That is untrue and you retweet it?
 Kody validates the Williamses with Excited!


Madison, it's great that you two can behave better than the adults. You two are good girls.

 Ignorance is a state of being uninformed. Sounds like Brittany is uninformed. Facts are facts.

 Meri, teach Christine this.









Glad all those years Welfare stepped in and helped you didn't have to pay back, whew....





NO ONE called him a pig. It's sad to make drama where there is none.



Really? Or Good Drama?



This from another polygamist family:
But, teaching your children that this is the only way to heaven.....is.... 


O_M_G



wow












Good for Janelle for saying this!
She loves strangers but can't face her aunt?
Not mine!

Kody needs to give monogamous men lessons?



Why do folks jump in when they don't even read the tweets?




Oh, it was just for ratings, you should be scared of them....















This one made me LMAO:
No stolen thunder!






 The pluggin begins....



 GOOD QUESTION...WAIT...TLC arrange the discussion? WOW!!!!!!
Probably arranged the guests....and Christine's script was written.


Kollene is on Twitter, YEAH!!!


YOU tell 'em!




Note to self: Kollen is not teaching the kids to drive hahahha


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226 comments:

  1. meggiedarlinSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    Did anyone catch in the previews how welfare was mentioned but never in the actual episode?

    I'm done. I can't watch the Brady Bunch, seeing another family try to put a positive spin on something so demeaning to women and children.

    I want TLC to put on a show of the survivors, telling their HONEST stories of life behind the walls.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:08 PM

      I agree...yet I know I am cheating, because I am DVRing the show in case I change my mind.

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    2. mythoughtisSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:13 PM

      me, too. Hope that is the same for the ratings, because one of these families at a time is enough.

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    3. She-RahSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      Yep, no answer on the welfare question. Maybe it will show up online as a deleted scene??

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Lots of things cam up but nothing was finished. If you want to come out and tell your story then tell your whole story. Don't leave the important issues just hanging.

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  2. boston corgiSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    These pictures are hilarious!!!

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  3. Mister SisterSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    We will have the honest story of the panelists soon!!

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  4. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Does anyone know who Krisyn Deckers husband was? I tried looking it up online after I read her book but I couldn't find anything.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM

      Thank you!

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    2. JRSeptember 16, 2013 at 7:08 AM

      My goodness, what a tangled web of family relations these fundamentalist Mormon polygamists weave...

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  5. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    I wish that Aspyn and Logan would tell their side of the story. They are young, but they are now legal adults. How did Logan feel about having his school invaded? How did Aspyn feel about her mother and her aunt. I hope in a few years one of them will open up and tell the story from their point of view.

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    1. mythoughtisSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      At the end of the debate, they showed Logan greeting his aunt in a very friendly way. That is probably when the debate attendee heard him apologize for Robyn's behavior.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      I doubt that Logan has ever had much experience with Kristyn Decker as an aunt. She is Christine's aunt. She has been out of polygamy for quite a while. I think she knew Christine as a little girl. Therefore, it was very, very adult of Logan to go and greet her. He may well have had to introduce himself. He is a mature young man. I hope he makes choices that will increase his chances for happiness in the future.

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    3. Funky TownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

      Christine's aunt said she met Kody once about 8 years ago she thought. So I doubt Logan has even met her. I was impressed he went up and spoke with her. Logan rocks.

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    4. Michelle in sactownSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      Watching the show right now...I have to say, Logan is a credit to his mother :)no matter what my opinion is about there "lifestyle /religion" Janelle seems to have raised bright, happy kids. No small feat in this day and age....not sure I'm going to b able to make it through Robin getting all 'big & bad ass'

      I mean come on! How DARE anyone try to make her out to b a victim? Isn't that ROBIN'S job? Oh.never mind. Her job is to make iconic pieces of joory... lol!!

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  6. archergirl78September 15, 2013 at 9:11 PM

    I'm in the minority here, but I was actually touched by seeing Meri and Robyn "rescue" Christine. I think she was genuinely heartsick at the thought of confrontation, and that was what made her hide in the bathroom. Having experienced panic attacks myself, I empathize. Meri and Robyn showed what I felt was actual compassion for her with their actions. I feel like I saw a different side to them tonight.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      I also noticed that. It may well be a case of "I can say anything about you that I want to, but don't let an outsider say it."

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    2. She-RahSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:51 PM

      I also know about and deal with panic and anxiety. The bathroom sequence just felt orchestrated to me.

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    3. OrangeMeri WhineSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

      Yep she was all alone and afraid in the bathroom except with the big giant cameraman there. Whom she was talking to. Scripted ya think?

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    4. AmusedSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      "Scripted ya think? "

      But of course!!!
      Have always loved the "private" moments....with the cameras rolling and the players all mic'ed.

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    5. 'plygs'September 15, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      A great, scripted TV moment. If you cannot deal with being in the public eye, don't go there.

      Ed Kociela

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    6. Giltee GuiltSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:58 PM

      Manufactured drama. Blech!!

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    7. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:58 AM

      It was all very Jr High, overly dramatic and silly...I have a feeling that Christine is a drama queen, she was told weird things to be afraid of growing up, now she manufactures things to flip out about...the "flee" from Utah, all drama and no real danger or threat, their persecution, really? You put yourself on a reality show what did you expect...she seems to flip out and be a lot of drama!

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    8. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:00 AM

      And then conveniantly her Sister Wives can act all supportive and dramatic too and have her back...so dumb and high school and to think that this is how their entire life is all the time, what a joke!

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    9. KolleneSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:20 AM

      not scripted.. I felt super annoyed about that stupid scene.. I really needed to pee and she would not get out of the bathroom.. I mean come on grow up and stop being afraid of little ole krystyn decker... what is she going to do? I had to use the mens room.. thanks christine ya selfish afraid of nothing little jr high girl.

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    10. Bemused BystanderSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:48 AM

      Kollene you are Kool!

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    11. Kollene IS Kool!!!September 16, 2013 at 3:00 AM

      KOLLENE, so many are going to be mad that you were here and missed you!!
      It's like 2 30 eastern time
      We've been talking about you and what a great role model you are....I sure hope we see you more, I can't wait to see if you write up what really happened too!!!!!!

      Christine made that all up for the show, I am afraid. But that's what my husband said, IS she in high school?????? COME on!!! I am afraid they drug all you guys out there just for drama and mean spirited too.
      I'm sorry, I wanted to slap the shit out of Robyn for yelling at you. Come on, is SHE real? She seems pretty dang, well dumb. Lst time I checked, she didn't own the copyright to SISTER WIVES.

      YOU are one brave girl. PLEASE come back and tell us more soon!!!!

      Way to be a jerk Robyn.

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    12. KolleneSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:54 AM

      Im here im here!! kinda... let me fix my last comment.. when I say afraid of nothing I mean.. your making drama where it does not exist.
      ill come back.. I was on the phone with my beloved panelists christine marie katas and krystyn decker. and now... im going to bed.

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    13. JRSeptember 16, 2013 at 7:15 AM

      Kollene, you ROCK, girl! :-) :-) :-)

      Besides your appearances on Sister Wives, I really enjoyed your interview on Doris Hanson's show, "Polygamy: What Love is this?" I love how honest, open, brave, and snarky you are! Stay true to yourself. You are awesome!

      Please consider being a regular poster on this Sister Wives Blog! We'd love to hear what you have to say.

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    14. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:40 AM

      Kollene, You knew Christine didn't want to come out of the bathroom because you and Kristyn were standing right there snickering at her. If you really needed to pee why didn't you just walk away for a few minuets, so that Christine was comfortable in leaving? I felt that it was you and Kristyn being Junior high mean girls. Yeah sorry but standing right there knowing full well you were making her uncomfortable was un called for.

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    15. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:55 AM

      oh i think it was scripted all right - by CHRISTINE herself!! She LOVES getting to play a lead role in her dramatic LALA-LAND she creates for herself. Remember, too, how she prides herself on being the FUN and FUNNY one in the family and yet - her humor has never even gotten a smile out of me let alone a laugh like she gets from her sister wives. I have a great sense of humor but Christine's own brand is just well ... undeveloped and awkward really.

      Anyway, she got her dramatic moment in the sun this episode and i'm sure is really proud of the moment and will be laughing it up and entertaining her sister wives with it the rest of her life. *yawn*

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  7. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    I wish we would have seen the part where Kody "melted down."

    I didn't like the way Robyn called Christine Marie "sweetie" when she was saying "Don't make me a victim." That "sweetie" was not sweet at all. She was using the term in a mean spirited way that was meant to convey..."You need to keep sweet and quit crossing She Rah!"

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    1. mythoughtisSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

      It was very disrespectful. We were not shown any evidence that Robyn previously knew Christine Marie. I would never call a complete stranger that in a debate. She marginalized her on purpose.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:32 PM

      She did marginalize her with malice a five thought. Miss Robyn is not a nice woman. She has shown that more than once on this show.

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    3. She-RahSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      I agree that was rude of her.

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      I tweeted Robyn back when she told us about her big mistake. I was very nice in my tweet but asked her to be careful and not to talk badly about their dad. She answered me just like that, Sweetie, is how she addressed me. It wasn't nice at all! I did get a chuckle out of it and again tonight. It must be her classic "dig"

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    5. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:03 PM

      Robyn shows that she is truly one of the Mean Girls.

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    6. 8haronSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:46 PM

      Agree that Robyn's use of 'sweetie' was not meant as a term of endearment. Interesting Anon 10:02! Yikes, now we now, when Robyn is mad - out comes the 'sweetie' word!

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    7. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      We have to remember how unlearned Robyn is, when she gets into a situation like that, her UNintelligence oozes out like lava, and she turns ugly to cover up the stupitity. But, I will say the woman with the fake pony tail hair (OMG btw) really didn't need to be there. I think she was there only to stir the pot.

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    8. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:18 AM

      It was hugely disrespectful for her to call her "sweetie".

      Robyn truly let her real personality shine through in this episode.

      I found Christine's aunt refreshing, calm and intelligent. I feel very sad for her that she did not escape until age 50. Hopefully she is making up for lost time and leading a happy life today.

      So much defensiveness on the part of the Browns on the show and in twitter posts. If their life is so good why did they even participate in the debate? They have had years now to tell their side of the polygamy debate on THEIR OWN show. If Kody felt so "confident" why so prickly? Why Robyn's outburst?



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    9. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:02 AM

      That must be She Rah, She Rah calls everyone Sweetie before she pounces, she wears an I love KB bra and undies too...

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    10. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:41 AM

      Haha Anonymous I was thinking the same thing!! I do believe that we met 'She-Rah' tonight...Lmao

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    11. PsychoSisterWifeSeptember 16, 2013 at 4:14 AM

      I was actually glad to see Christine Marie there. I seen her story on the ID channel. And while she doesn't come from a polygamous background she does have quite a story.

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    12. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:59 AM

      I think Robyn's ex is probably VERY familiar with "SHE-RAH" and probably could also tell us all about She-Rah at the next level when she's pumped with alcohol to boot!! hah!

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  8. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:13 PM

    If you taped it, look closely at Robyn's profile as she goes into the bathroom and she thinks the door is closing...she is laughing...like this is so much fun laughing.

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    1. 8haronSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

      Missed that! Can someone post a screenshot?

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:05 AM

      Because she thrives on the drama...she's a dirty plyg that one...I was a little surprised that Merri was so childish, she didn't even say hi to Kolleen or Aunt Krystin, isn't Mama Merri big lady supposed to be head wife, used to being a plyg...or at least polite and friendly??? NOT impressed

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  9. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:14 PM

    Looking forward to hearing from the panelists.

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    1. Mister SisterSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

      If you are catching it on the west coast, we want to hear your thoughts!!

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

      If this were 100% scripted, it would mean that the "showdown" between Christine and her aunt at the bathroom was set up by the producers. Would Kristyn Decker demean herself enough to go along with that. I certainly do not think she would. Therefore, I do not want to believe that it was entirely scripted.

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    3. Occupy the Cuddle-sacSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:29 AM

      Hey Mister Sister... just getting through it now on the West Coast. Stopping and going back to see parts over again.

      Have no snark in me tonight. Just so sad watching the Browns play the victim role and putting their children in the middle of more unnecessary drama.

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:10 AM

      Oh Come On! This isn't the Brown's first ro dee oh, they are getting the hang of reality tv. The producers likely saw that Koleen and Aunt Krys were headed to the Luu and jumped at the chance to make some drama. It helps there story line about the sisies having each other backs, either that or Robyn, Merri, and Christine are just reliving there Jr High School dance days where one runs to the bathroom and the rest of the herd follow. either way it was pathetic and lame

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    5. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:00 AM

      "The sissies." Good one!

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  10. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:18 PM

    In other words....the whole thing was a joke to her. The drama was not real. The situation was just a big fat chance for her to get a laugh.

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  11. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:20 PM

    Lmao at the crossing She Rah! I'm so over the Browns BS

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  12. mythoughtisSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    I think what bothers me the most about this debate episode is how the Browns were totally focused on themselves, and how it was ok for them to speak out, but not the other side? We didn't see pre-debate, or in the debate, any of the anti-plyg side telling the Browns they couldn't speak out or saying that the Browns were betraying them. For people who just 'want to be accepted', the Browns aren't very accepting of anyone else.

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  13. Ticked off TaxpayerSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

    Christne in the tweet was afraid? PLEEEEZZZZWWWWWEEEEE

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

      I do believe that Christine was afraid.
      * She was afraid her aunt knew her well enough to see through the front she has up.
      * She was afraid her aunt could press her buttons and cause her to melt down.
      * She was afraid she could not stay strong in the face of this woman whom she loved and whom she knows was abused by polygamy.

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    2. kmsSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:33 PM

      It was supposed to be people showing the negatives of polygamy and another showing the positives. It turned into something else.

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    3. HayleySeptember 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      I was struck by how often Christine mentioned being the persecution they'd received from being polygamists, but at the same time, THEY'RE the ones who decided to star in a reality show on the subject. They can't expect to be paid the big bucks by TLC, have a fan base who buys their jewelry, and complain about people saying nasty to them about their lifestyle.

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      Did they bring up all their ooey-gooey gushy fans that praise and adore them and their lifestyle and are clamoring to be wife #5? if you're going to cry persecution, where's the flip side of their love acknowledgment shown back to all their adoring (but delusional) fans?

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    5. AmusedSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      "THEY'RE the ones who decided to star in a reality show on the subject."

      EXACTLY !!!
      That has been the sticking point all along from the beginning.
      Don't cry fowl and claim your privacy has been disrespected when you chose to figuratively undress in public.

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  14. Florida PoodleSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    Best quote of the night came from Meri: "Do you know how liberating it is to not have to sleep with him every night?!" Duh.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:42 PM

      I wonder how many monogamyst women feel that they have to sleep with their husbands every night. I certainly don't. Yet, I love knowing that I am sleeping right beisde the love of my life. If I want a hug or a kiss I can have it. So can he, without always expecting it to progress into a major physical experience.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      I'm guessing she was referring to sex and not just being next to a person. They have a big bed so I don't think it is just being next to the person which is pretty disturbing. All women, polygamist or monogamist do not have to have sex just because the man wants to. I personally like sharing a bed with my boyfriend because I feel safer in the event of a home invasion. I guess everyone is different.

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    3. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      yes, Meri - i can only imagine your gratitude of relief that Kody's not in your bed that night. i would feel the same way! :P

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  15. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    They were soo mean to the panel. Grow up. that's what a debate is all about.

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  16. Eileen DoverSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    The Brown adults make me sick. So self-absorbed, so intolerant of the beliefs of others while demanding they be shown tolerance. What a farce. I think they're all very insecure. If they were truly secure in their beliefs they would just live their lives and be proud of their beliefs and lifestyle and quit whining about being persecuted and judged. I think in the grand scheme of things, nobody really gives a frog's fat arse about the Browns. They have no credibility. THEY *CHOSE* to go on TV and expose their lifestyle and their lies (eg: the big bogus middle of the night departure from Lehi), so suck it up already. They seriously and delusionaly believe that they're just innocent victims who are so judged and misunderstood. GROW UP! Live your life how you choose and stop trying to throw it in the faces of those who don't respect/understand it. Why do you care anyway? So immature, such attention wh0res, such victims.

    And Sobbin - you have not been a part of the Brown family long enough to have earned the RIGHT to always be the one to speak up and portray yourself as the wives' spokesperson. You remind me of the annoying girl in high school who always tried to be the center of attention, to be liked, to be respected, to be considered insightful and someone to aspire to be like......when in fact her insecurity and low self-esteem and inability to think for herself just OOZED out. And for God's sake, if you're going to always have to get your 2 cents in, at least learn how to speak and articulate....and without sounding so damn whiny.

    Frankly I have had about enough of Polygamy. How many friggin shows do we need? How about some shows about Single Moms raising their families? How about shows that portray truly empowered women who aren't brainwashed or subservient little man-slaves who aspire to have the "cake" in life as opposed to the crumbs.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:43 PM

      How about shows about women who don't have their cookie stolen from them.

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    2. DarleneSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      Maybe willy and kollene could get their own shows and we could follow their story for a bit.

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    3. Giltee GuiltSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

      I made the decision not to watch the new polygamy show because I'm frankly worn out from Sister Wives. There have been far too many contrivances and overblown situations. Manufactured drama is the formula used to snag viewers and keep them watching. Who's going to watch people perform mundane chores like folding laundry, chopping veggies, and cleaning the bathroom? If viewers see previews of a brewing conflict, TLC knows just how to cast the line and reel them in. (Sigh.) Now that I'm doing serious reading about survivors who have fled polygamy, I think I can say "no thanks" to these trifling shows. The abuse, neglect, and soul trampling that goes on in so many compounds has made my heart and head hurt for the victims that I've read about.

      I agree w/ Darlene's suggestion that it's time to feature people like Willy and Kollene to show viewers how these strong, young people courageously left their difficult backgrounds to take charge of their new lives.

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    4. 'plygs'September 15, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      This show and the others are not true representations of polygamy. None show the pitfalls of real polygamy, from the abuses to degradation.

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    5. 8haronSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:53 PM

      I third Darlene & Giltee Guilt's idea of having a show follow Willy & Kollene as they learn how to live life away from their community and make decisions.

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    6. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:16 AM

      Your right about Robyn, she always is the one to start answering for the entire family. When she was going on about all of them living together again I was utterly shocked that one of the others didn't shut her up, she never lived with them, she still hasn't! She is an insecure little ho who latched onto this family and sent them into a tailspin.

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    7. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:05 AM

      I wouldn't wish a "reality" show onto Willie and Kollene tho. They're super sweet and strong survivors of abuse now and need to be allowed to continue on with their healing journey and not be put in the place of becoming a vulnerable public spectacle which would happen with a show.

      i feel the same way about all the Brown kids having to be featured on their show, too. I don't see any benefits for them to be so exposed - just all the downsides of experiencing going through your tough puberty/high school years in the public eye. I really feel for Logan and Aspyn now - especially after this embarrassing episode.

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  17. TillieSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM

    The two posts below are AWESOME. Mister Sister, GREAT job getting both. I am excited to read Kollene, Kristyn and Christine Marie's later this week. AWESOME BLOG, really HOT lately.

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    1. Giltee GuiltSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:10 AM

      Mister Sister has knocked it out of the park so many times this week w/ the SW blog, and of course Twister Sister's creative genius has kept me in stitches. :-) I agree w/ you, Tillie, that this is an awesome blog.

      Many compliments to you terrific contributors who bring wisdom, clarity, compassion and wit to this blog. My brain is really getting some exercise here!

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 4:14 AM

      I agree!! This has always been a wonderful blog because of just everything. The jokes, the humour, the willingness to learn more about polygamy. The people who have come on here to share their experiences and their research. The people who come on here to listen and learn. Lately, with the other programs about polygamy on the TV, this blog has really been hitting it out of the park. Serious, well researched commentaries are just as important as the wacky sense of humour. Honestly, without the humour, this would be a dreary issue and we wouldn't be able to handle all the extreme sadness and confronting stories about this 'lifestyle'. Thanks everyone.

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  18. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:44 PM

    Meri Brown ✔ @MeriBrown1

    We have 3 kids in college, and high schoolers planning on going. Not bad for us polygamists.

    I just want to smack her and go YES, because the tax payers paid for them until now, and now you are selling your soul and on TV. NOt regular polygamists!

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    1. boston corgiSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:20 PM

      I'm glad they are finally supporting themselves, but I'm sure if TLC hadn't come along some of them would still be collecting welfare as single parents.

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    2. AmusedSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

      No doubt about that, Corgi.

      That elephant in the room continues to haunt their true reality.
      They ALL have bled the beast, and they will again if the monies become "finite" again.

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  19. Dinah54September 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    Holy. Moly. Christine was a bitch, and a liar. They didn't "just barely" expose themselves. After four seasons I believe their warts are fully exposed. And Kollene was absolutely correct: the bathroom shenanigans were SO junior high.

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  20. Cara Curfew-KocielaSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM

    AAAGGGHHHHH still another 10 min before we can start having fun with you all... !!! MST sucks!!!

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    1. Cara Curfew-KocielaSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM

      Take it back... try another HOUR.. at least in MX we get EST TV ... watch out when we do.. :D

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  21. Forest RoseSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    Good night all! I really love the fact that the bloggers here can be trusted to keep things within bounds. Live blogging can be chancy. This is an awesome community.

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    1. She-RahSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:06 PM

      Yep, I know. I ran out of steam for the Williams-I tried, I really did, I promise-but these live viewing sessions are lots of fun!

      Many thanks!

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  22. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:53 PM

    I really thought it was mean of Krystin Decker to trap Christine in the bathroom like she did

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    1. UnknownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:03 PM

      She and the blonde kid (can't think of her name right now) just stood there, as if they were waiting to confront Christine when she came out.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:06 PM

      Or maybe, they waited outside because they did not want to trap Christine in the bathroom. Waiting outside was much more polite than barging in and sharing the facilities at the same time.

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    3. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      I could see the toilet when they opened the door. There weren't any stalls. I think Krystin and Kollene were waiting outside with the intention of using the bathroom, not waiting to confront Christine.

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    4. Funky TownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      I really think they were just standing there either to use the restroom or freshen up before the panel discussion started. I do not think her aunt went there to trap Christine.

      It was a big production because Christine was afraid to walk past her aunt and say hello. Ridiculous. If you are a big enough person to go public and be on TV then deal with your aunt. Sheesh

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    5. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:26 PM

      good lord - they're not bullies. they were bullied their whole lives in polygamy. seriously doubt they were interested in ganging up on Christine. they're more mature and gracious than that. Christine's all about drama and i'm sure enjoyed her over the top dramatics about it all. The Browns seriously need to grow up already.

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    6. Dinah54September 16, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      I don't see how Christine was "trapped." Weren't they in the hallway before Christine got there? Would it have killed Christine to be cordial? The other women were clearly the adults in the room.

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  23. Florida PoodleSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    Yes, I thought Christine was melodramatic about seeing her aunt and the panel discussion, but I think her emotion was real. If Kody made her go to that panel, I think that's abuse. Just sayin'.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM

      scripted. :)

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    2. Funky TownSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:57 AM

      Christine went because she wanted to be paid, just like the other Brown adults. Easy enough to figure out. I doubt Kody had anything to do with forcing her to go.

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  24. DollfaceSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    I wish that the welfare question had been answered too. I don't think that most viewers know about that part of the equation. This blog has really enlightened me. I felt that Christine may have been apprehensive about seeing her aunt but she really played it to the hilt. Starved for attention and loving drama, she knew that she could use this to her benefit. Kody actually touched her.
    As for the gathering in the bathroom, the aunt made a comment about junior high. She hit the nail on the head, the SW acted like immature teenagers.
    This was a nothing show, we didn't learn anything new about the Browns. Kody's hair (or lack of it) was the only entertaining thing on the show. It kept changing, that bald spot is getting bigger and bigger, like his ego.

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    1. Funky TownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

      If the welfare issue had come up I don't think the Browns would have told the truth. They seem to want to forget all about that and bankruptcies.

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    2. MalamomSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:37 PM

      Doll face, "Kody actually touched her." Did he put his arms around her and hold her? All I saw was him kind of awkwardly pulling at her hair. Weird!

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  25. Clockwork AngelSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:56 PM

    Y'all are killing me with the Meri and Robyn mermaids!! I really didn't like the way Robyn tried to jump Kollene. And this crap where Kody would give Christine money if she wanted to go is complete crap. He told her to save grocery money if she wanted go visit her family in another episode! I'm so sure he is just going to give you money to walk away...

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

      There is something that is worrying me. Both Kolleen and Willy said that they have other personas in their heads. This is highly likely as a result of abuse. Robyn has indicated that she also has an alter. I do not mean that any of them are truly split personalities, but I hope that they have access to the best mental health care around.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:34 PM

      i have a strong feeling that both of them have gotten (and maybe still are) some serious counseling. they have their heads on pretty straight given their horrible experiences. in fact, iirc, Carolyn Jessop said back on the Anderson show that willie was receiving counseling back then.

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    3. Giltee GuiltSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:12 AM

      Those mermaids are hilarious! :D

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  26. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:58 PM

    I thought Robyn's behaviour was appalling overall. Robyn is so defensive like it is her mission to make people believe in this life style. But maybe my opinion is skewed because of how passive the other wives are. But even in the interviews she seems very defensive and angry.

    I think Christine was afraid of messing up on camera more than she was afraid of confrontation. I think the wives have an image to uphold and that is where the nerves come from. It would be interesting to get a perspective on how they are viewed from within their "church". I wonder if their actions are picked apart.

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  27. 5th wifeSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Krispy Kookie really like your name. Be careful Kody might want a bite. Back to show I think Robin was way over the top. Everyone has opinion, Robin thinks her's wa s the on ly one that counted. Robin needs to be on medication. She was trying to show the world that she was defending her sister wife Christine. Instead she came thru as a fruit cake with plenty of Nuts.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:08 PM

      Someone in the earlier post noticed that Christine and Kristyn were starting to have a true conversation when Robyn had to butt it again. She does make it her life's work to intrude at the wrong time.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:30 PM

      Robyn's one of those who feels it's her duty to voice every thought in her head and that she has all the know-it-all answers for everyone. she will never learn that "less is more" is to her advantage.

      "Better to be silent and thought a fool rather than to speak out and remove all doubt" is applicable to her.

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  28. UnknownSeptember 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    One thing I do like about the Browns is that they seem to be allowing their kids to choose their own paths regarding polygamy or monogamy or well, whatever. The kids do seem happy and they do seem to have their own ideas about what they believe is right and wrong.

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  29. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:09 PM

    I can't help but feel for Maddy as she defends her "daddy.'

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      It is sad and twisted that the children must apologize for their parents actions and defend them. This is what comes from having narcissistic parents who put themselves and their egos before their children.

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  30. Cat LoafSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:19 PM

    Is it just me, or do Meri and Kody look more and more like each other in every episode?

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    1. Sister WtfSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM

      Yes! It is as though Meri is dipping into Kody's hair products... it looks bad enough on him, I have no idea why she is modeling her styling decisions after him!

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  31. Cat LoafSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM

    Thank you! I think they both look like they have fried their hair on flat irons and it's the same length, maybe that's it?

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  32. Funky TownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    Had to laugh @ Meri's tweet about Kody not sleeping with other women, he has wives, let's give him a little respect. LOLOLOL

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    1. Its not MY nightSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:38 PM

      Maybe I'd give him respect if he showed respect for the women he's sleeping with and for the monogamists!

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    2. boston corgiSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      Seriously... Kody has children with 3 single women besides his wife so it sure looks like he's been sleeping with them! She wants him to be respected?...I think not Meri!

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    3. AmusedSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      That one got me too.

      Meri, why should people respect Kody for sleeping with you and three other women? Women you say are his "wives."

      Is his name on their kids' birth certificates?? Or does it say "unknown"?
      What?? You say that it is a private matter??
      As in, that as long as his other non-legal bedmates don't acknowledge that he offically sleeps with and impregnates them, then they qualify for welfare.

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  33. UnknownSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    I am polyamorous and I get closed minded people who judge me all the time. They talk about abuse in the polygamist lifestyle but that's with any lifestyle you lead. I support you all for showing people polygamy can work. It's the same with me and polyamory. I love the show and I think your family is great. Stay strong.

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  34. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    OMG... The See Dick book BRILLIANT!!! Robyn's face on the mermaid is priceless :)

    dj

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  35. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    So what was the big financial issue with Kody and Meri?

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    1. boston corgiSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      No clue yet...maybe one of their "multiple streams of income" has dried up!

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  36. MrSpockSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    To Dana Silver at 9:59 PM: And what you say about the Browns is exactly why the Browns cannot be convinced of the "rightness" of their religion or "the principle." If they are truly sold out to the belief that their only way to heaven is to live "the principle" and be in plural marriage, then why aren't they teaching and emphasizing that to their children as if their children's very (after)lives depended on it? This "we support them in whatever they choose" mantra is completely antithetical to their professed beliefs. Either they believe it and live it---and pass it on to their children---or they don't.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      I believe Kody is ignorant of his own so called religion. If he cant explain the doctrine or massages his religion to accomadate his new found lifestyle in Vegas, he propably cant explain it to his kids. Their home church service have not been exactley scripture and verse. Robyn didnt go to college..she cant pell period

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    2. Funky TownSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      Thank you Mr. Spock. My point exactly.

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    3. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      didn't Sobbin' go to YSU? (Yoming State)

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

      I believe Kody is ignorant of his own so called religion. If he cant explain the doctrine or massages his religion to accomadate his new found lifestyle in Vegas, he propably cant explain it to his kids. Their home church service have not been exactley scripture and verse. Robyn didnt go to college..she cant pell period

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    5. UnknownSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:07 AM

      I'm a Christian, and as much as I would like my daughter to be a Christian, she has to decide for herself. I still teach her my Christian beliefs, but it will be up to her to decide what path she wants to take.

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  37. Its not MY nightSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Wasn't it Christine who wanted to do this show to defend her lifestyle? Wasn't she the one who said "Bring it on!" trying to push for acceptance of polygamy? But she can't face her own aunt ? They are.making money off of the lifestyle but they don't want to be questioned about it.

    What is it fine for the Brown's to give their opinions about polygamy and if anyone says anything negative they feel attacked but aren't they invalidating the victims of abuse with their defense of polygamy?

    And they think they are painted with a broad brush. Well how about the way they paint monogamy? Like monogamous men cheat, so they are so much better because they "marry" their mistresses. And that monogamous women are harlots who miss out on wonderful blessings.

    Even if this lifestyle somehow works for them because they are "special" (and I don't believe it works from what I've seen), doesn't make it a good or acceptable lifestyle. The inequality of the women's rights vs the men's rights makes it a terrible idea. Stockholm syndrome not withstanding.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      Monogamous women are not harlots.

      It is the daughters of monogamous women who are harlots, the common street kind at that. Sheesh, did you learn nothing from this show?

      Gordon Setter

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  38. Cara Curfew-KocielaSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    OK.. ready... here we come... :D 15 min to go over all the posts so far

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  39. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 10:50 PM

    I was just wondering when exactly Kody "married" Robin, because I'm sure I heard her say "we decided as a family" to go public. I was under the impression that all the Kody Krew had already filmed the pilot show before Robin messed up... I mean entered their lives.

    Another thing I would like an answer to is when did
    Kody tell Christine that if she isn't happy he would give her money to leave. I'd bet the farm this was after Robin entered the picture. Otherwise he might have offered her food stamps to leave, but I doubt there was enough MONEY in their collective pockets to buy a two mile taxi ride for one, let alone Christine & all her kids. We know the kids would have to go too. None of the bogus, I mean bonus moms or Kody would step up & raise them.


    Last but not least, I really think the reason Christine didn't want to face her aunt is because she was scared that the aunt might point out specific happenings within Christines own family that would be too hard to try and deny. I don't know how it works in their family, but if I felt I was going to be put in the hot seat, I would much rather it be by someone that loved me and not just a bunch of strangers.At the end of the the day your family is your family and even when they disagree with you they still love you. No doubt she was scared, but not for the reasons she let on.She was afraid of skeletons be let out of the closet!

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    1. redwood curtainSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:32 AM

      Yes, Anonymous 10:50, Christine is acutely aware that her aunt knows where all the bodies are buried and could, at any moment (perhaps even in front of a live UNLV audience) tell very true and uncomfortable things about Christine's actual family.

      TLC has made it just a little too easy for the Browns to gloss over the very real and sometimes rotten branches in their very own family trees. They don't just want their specific family to be wholly accepted and for the viewers to smile, bat their eyes and say, "Gosh, those Browns are swell!" They also want to keep the viewers away from the big, smelly skeletons in the collective family closet.

      If I were Christine, under those circumstances, I'd be having a panic attack, too. Auntie Kristyn is a wild card! Someone who can't be snowed about the facts nor forced to keep sweet. Horrors!

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  40. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Lol save your grocery money! Since when do airlines use food stamps as fare? She look perplexed too.

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  41. Cara Curfew-KocielaSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Let the games begin!!

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  42. MalamomSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Kody looks soooooo stooooopid in those ridiculous vests he insists on wearing. What a tool.

    Christine has mad skills with kids but ZERO skills with adults. What a dramatic, rediculous, immature woman.

    Shut up Robyn. Grow up Robyn.

    Janelle needs to lay off of the koolaid. She's delusional.

    Meri is the calm voice of reason? Fave line so far-"there's 5 of us." Bwaaahahaha!

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  43. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Well, if it wasn't obvious to you before, it should be now that Christine is unstable. Terrified of an aunt who know longer supports polygamy? Why does she care? Christine acts like she's a half-brainwashed, half-ashamed little girl, not a woman who made a choice.

    I'm still not going to blanket condemn polygamy although I would like more time discussing how the extremely large blended families affect children rather than focusing on adult females choosing to let their husband have sex with other females. That has gone on forever with wives choosing to accept mistresses and infidelities. Most women don't want their husband to be with them every night.

    I dislike Robyn. Her nasty side comes out too quickly and she parrots Kody and speaks like she is an authority. I wish she would just shut up.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:40 PM

      I used to like Christine a lot but tonight it became apparent why she is in this lifestyle. She isn't emotionally mature. It is really unfortunate because she is such a great mom.

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    2. Anon4NowSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:37 AM

      Anonymous 11:05, I'm not buying your idea that "most" women don't want their husband with them every night. Perhaps this could be the next poll questions?

      I've been around the planet for a while, and my experience is that most women DO want their man with them every night, unless there is something amiss in the relationship (or perhaps they had chili for dinner). At any rate, I think you'd be hard pressed to say that "most" women would be fine with their man sleeping in bed with some other woman, ever.

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    3. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:48 AM

      i beg to differ that you can be emotionally immature and be a great mom. imo - i don't consider any of these women or the one dad to be great parents. i think they're all emotionally immature as well as emotionally distraught and that most of their kids are seemingly turning out ok in spite of the poor parenting they receive. Time up the road will speak loud and clearly what's really up with the kids themselves as functioning adults out in the world.

      Right now, Mariah's emotional instability makes her not ready for plyghood but i imagine she will venture there sooner rather than later and Logan's kinda torn up emotionally inside with it all. Of course, he loves his family but I think he would LOVE to not be in the limelight with them and just get to be another run-of-the-mill normal kid on campus.

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  44. BunzOfStealSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:10 PM

    When Christine said that her aunt was NOT SAFE, I was expecting Kristyn Decker to show up onstage carrying a toaster. Alas, I was disappointed. She is not safe because she doesn't think polygamy is all sunshine, roses and mermaids.

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    1. MrSpockSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      A toaster!!! LOL!!!! Good one, Bunz!!!!!!

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  45. boston corgiSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Why is Robyn tweeting that her heart goes out to the other panelists when we just saw her going after them on tv in a rather rude and aggressive manner?

    I swear Robyn/She-Ra is becoming more unhinged with every episode.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:45 PM

      She probably read the supportive tweets from the public and wanted to act accordingly. The public doesn't like bullies. If the public had been on their side, she wouldn't have tweeted out support.

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    2. redwood curtainSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:38 AM

      It's pure damage control.

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  46. kmsSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Give Christine a break. This aunt in a clip expressed desire to go over there and kidnap the woman. I would be scared of her too if someone expressed the desire to kidnap and reprogram me. Also the respect factor must be conflicting to Christine. An aunt is an adult, how do you disagree with an adult family member publicly without being disrespectful?

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM

      I thought that maybe Christine felt awkward and nervous being around her aunt Krystyn because Krystyn knew too much about how miserable Christine has felt especially in the past when she thought about leaving polygamy

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  47. CookieNaziSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

    I have nothing more to add but just wanted to try out my new name. :P

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  48. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    I am so sick of Robin and her BS she would love nothing more for Kody to leave the other 3 and run off other her and her Cookies!!!

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  49. AnonymousSeptember 15, 2013 at 11:56 PM

    Robyn got on my last nerve tonight.

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  50. AmusedSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    The editing on this *debate* was so Brown slanted, it was more than disturbing.
    Luckily, we had the first hand account here on SWB from someone who was there to compare. I wonder if there is a complete version of the filming. Considering the repeated and repeated sound bites before and right every commercial break, very little substance was seen or heard.

    Meri, Janelle and Sobbin have had significant airtime this season with their various stories. Meri/baby, Janelle/weight loss and Sobbin/purrity.
    So if the premise of this debate and the subsequent editing was designed to showcase Christine who really hasn't had much a storyline or the spotlight lately....it was a major fail!!
    All it did was confirm how ineffective and child-like she is.

    Sobbin's excessive praise of Kody when he feigned feeling unsure about his performance was so scripted and over-directed. But nothing new about that.


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    1. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:16 AM

      Totally agree with you Amused esp about Robyns awkward overly praise of Kody to stroke his ego.

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    2. EllenSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      I hated how they would show the audience when a Brown was speaking, and if one person was nodding they would zero in on that person. Of course, they might have been editing in a person nodding when an anti-plyg person was speaking, you just never know. It was definitely edited pro-Brown.

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  51. Dear TLC....September 16, 2013 at 12:03 AM

    About the episode:

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  52. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    Did anyone notice that Janelle announced that she made her own money and has her own bank account?

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  53. 'plygs'September 16, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    I learned a new term tonight.

    When you want to be a total snit, an insulting twit, a rude and arrogant brute, you call somebody Sweetie.

    I saw a disjointed, terribly edited, horribly scripted (yes, the whole Christine melodrama thing sure looked scripted to me) segment of a series that is an insult to the origins of what was once called The Learning Channel.

    I saw a sense of paranoia and persecution complex that was unreal and unwarranted given the circumstances of tonight's show.

    In other words, if you make yourself an "outsider," don't complain about being an "outsider."

    And, there was, of course, the over-dramatization for the sake of the cameras. That whole business of being intimidated by Kristyn Decker? Are you kidding me? Kristyn is a kind, timid woman.

    Christine Marie, Kollene and Willie presented a reasonable, friendly, warm countenance while the Brown family did their best to be antagonistic.

    I was amazed, however, at the insecurities and unfocused, unwarranted anger from the Browns; the childish behavior.

    These are mean-spirited, unhappy people, and further solidified my opinion that "Sister Wives" is, at heart, nothing more than a latter-day soap opera.

    Special note to Robyn: Good night, Sweetie.

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    1. Funky TownSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:52 AM

      I thought the exact same thing and I thought the sweetie tacked onto the end showed Robyn's true colors. She used it in a way that was entirely demeaning.

      She wasn't trying to do anything but paint herself as the victim and then blame it on others. I was disgusted by the way the Browns behaved tonight. That whole bathroom scene, whether scripted or not, was entirely ridiculous.
      I saw a loving aunt that was waiting with Kollene to either use the restroom or freshen up before joining the panel. I did not see someone waiting to confront Christine.

      Such a slanted show. If I were Christine Marie, Kollene, Kristyn or Willie, I'd feel violated at the way the show was presented.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 6:07 AM

      "Not Safe" felt "attacked". If one is going to put themselves on tv, sign up for discussions and debates, file lawsuits to change the laws governing your lifestyle, then I'd first make sure I could defend my position. The Browns? NOPE

      I think they were defensive and 'afraid' and didn't 'feel safe' because they knew they couldn't defend their positions. I think Christine was 'afraid' to even talk to her aunt (which was RUDE and so junior high) because she was embarrassed by her past behavior, she couldn't defend her choices and because she'd never reached out to her after learning she'd left the family. Christine was also toeing the party/family line in 'shunning' the one who leaves the lifestyle/religion.

      Someone ticked off TLC. LOL Of course we only saw what they wanted us to see, but oh, boy this episode was not complimentary to the Browns. The wives were depicted as immature mean girls who name called and couldn't defend their lifestyles.

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  54. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    This blog has certainly changed. It's snarky but it's almost like you have to be part of the correct snark club to get your comments posted? Does it have to contain a positive spin? I don't get it. (No I am not stupid.) How disappointing. I used to go right to this blog as an outlet in the middle of managing contracts and proposals. Reading this was great. I suppose I lived vicariously through the family who never lived within their means and still got everything they wanted. Of course it was never enough for them and the tears and whining just made the comments on the blog so much better. I know this won't be posted but I have to vent somehow. I guess there will be other places to go.

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    1. Bemused BystanderSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:52 AM

      I think that lately there's been a universal "download" of information regarding polygamy and attention to it on this blog. Many are recognizing truths, synthesizing information, and sharing insights. There is still snark, but I think that we are experiencing a period of time that supersedes total snark.
      But hey, I'm good with the snark, I enjoyed your snark, so snark away.
      We all just seem like more creative thinkers when our snark isn't too lowly.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 6:10 AM

      I don't see a change like that at all. I see the same snark and open opinions as always. This past weekend the blog has introduced some more serious topics (not just the silly TLC show) and so the comments have been more serious. Go back to just Friday's comments and you'll see that we're still as snarky as ever. Stick around - the same people are here - in addition to some great new ones, too!

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  55. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    I don't think the subject was brought up that many young girls are forced into the polygamist lifestyle. Robin had a choice to marry her first husband and to pseudo marry Kody. If she had been forced to marry a random man and bare his children she would not defend her lifestyle.
    I feel their are two sides to every coin and the Browns got the best side financially wise, since because of the show they were able to have new homes, cars, etc. Where other families on the other side are dealing with poverty and the rampant sexual abuse.

    Okay, I know it's a nit pick, but letting Truely walk to Robin's house by herself. And I understand that Christine was watching her, but still I don't think it would have been that hard to walk her over and then to tell Asypen to call Robin to say the baby was coming over. Why didn't she do that earlier?

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  56. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:48 AM

    I have a question I hope someone can answer, do plygs believe in the 10 commandments?

    I really believe that Christine was afraid her Aunt would see how unhappy and depressed she is. After watching for the second time I truly believe that. I can't help but wonder if her Aunt watches the show.

    I cannot stand Robyn and tonight just confirmed that.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 6:14 AM

      Of course Christine was afraid for her aunt to see the truth. She knew she couldn't defend her choice to stay in her unhappy marriage, so what better way to deal with it than to bad mouth her aunt and say she was afraid of her.

      If she was confident in her life choice decisions she'd have absolutely no reason to avoid her aunt.

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  57. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:49 AM

    I feel that the Browns were being held accountable for the actions of others and not just their own. Unfortunately we have the same or very close to the same crimes going on in monogamist families and yet we are not all asked to answer for the crimes of other non plural families. To group them all together is unfair. They should only have to answer for their own behavior not every other polygamist out there.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:09 AM

      I agree, but when a person puts themselves out there on national TV, they take on a representation role. It is the same thing when celebrities are accused of being bad role models. The Browns are the only view we have into this world so they are getting the brunt of the hate.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:17 AM

      The Browns are suing the state to change anti polygamy laws, that is why they must answer for all polygamy within the state.

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    3. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:23 AM

      Really ? They are not the only view as we have the Dargers and the families on the show Polygamists USA - nobody seems to bring on the hate with them.

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    4. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:08 AM

      The Browns are more public and more marketed than the others are. Being overly involved in social media brings more attention to people. From a quick look at the Dargers twitter account, they don't tweet as much as the Browns. I don't know if any of the Polygamists USA people have a twitter account.

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    5. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:25 AM

      By any means am I defending any plyg families, but at least the Dargers & Polygamy USA plygs aren't trying to take advantage of their "fan" base & bilk them out of $$ by selling them junk & snake oil.

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  58. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 12:53 AM

    I have a question I hope someone can answer, do plygs believe in the 10 commandments?

    I really believe that Christine was afraid her Aunt would see how unhappy and depressed she is. After watching for the second time I truly believe that. I can't help but wonder if her Aunt watches the show.

    I cannot stand Robyn and tonight just confirmed that.

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  59. Sinister DrivesSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    Watching SW now:

    Christine is such a drama queen: everybody is out to get her - sharks, toasters, former polygamists, aunts. Everybody. is. out. to. get. her.

    Poor Robyn they just want to live their lives, not convert anyone - and. be. paid. for. it. (Wish I could be paid to just live my life the way I wanted to!)

    25 minutes into show, and nothing has happened yet - except everybody is nervous.

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  60. Occupy the Cuddle-sacSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:42 AM

    Just because sometimes things are so grim you just gotta laugh or you'll cry...
    Sung to the tune of Carolina in the Morning....


    Nothing could be finer than to debate a Brown wife liar in the morning,

    No one is more sweeter than those “sweeties” when it’s Kody who they’re fawning.

    Let’s all get defensive

    Let’s hide behind a door

    Whispering petty stories

    No one believes no more.

    Trolling with his girlie in his compound pretty early in the morning

    Dragonflies all cluttered up on dongles no one covets much for bonging

    If I owned the TV show for only a day

    I’d make a wish and here’s what I’d say

    Nothing could be finer than to finally yell, “You’re fired” in the morning.

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  61. Sinister DrivesSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:43 AM

    My opinion, more abuse od Christine by Kody. How many times did she say she didn't want to do the debate? If the show is to be believed, he made her do it. We're supposed to sympathize with this?

    I wonder if Christines's {{{fear}}} of "Aunt Kristin" will hurt, or was designed to hurt, the sale of Kristin Decker's book(s). Christine sure talked that fear up for the entire 43 minutes I've been watching the show.

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  62. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    Ok so I'm late to the live discussion again but just now watching this episode. I haven't had a chance to read all the comments yet so sorry if I repeat anything already brought up.
    So the scene where all the Browns are gathered by the front door of one of the homes on there way out, & Robyn says "they say you are a misogynist pig Kody" ...I just wonder if she was reading from SWB?? :) ... Lol

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    1. redwood curtainSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:46 AM

      I had the strong impression that Robyn actually said (with her typical fabulous elocution) "What if they call you a misogynist pig, Kody?" Creative editing made it hard to hear the "what if," I believe, and for obvious reasons. Even Kody's reaction was what one would expect in response to a rhetorical questions.

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    2. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 8:17 AM

      I know your joking but she said what if they say you are a misogynist pig Kody. Christine's aunt sent a tweet out saying it didn't come from them. It was poor editing because she had her phone out but she was just saying "What would you say if they said you were a misogynist pig"

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  63. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Kody is such a douche!!! When the Browns are in a pre- meeting w/ the professor & Kody says "I feel you have something at stake here?" Plus his tone of voice & head/hair shaking. I took it as him meaning the professor had a hidden agenda, IMO.

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    1. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 6:17 AM

      I agree. Kody was trying to start something with the prof, but it was so funny watching him get NO WHERE! lol

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  64. ArkansasSeptember 16, 2013 at 1:59 AM

    So sorry if this has been mentioned, but I am confused by Christina Marie. She was scammed by a con artist who knew what buttons to push. His scam just happened to be a fake plyg set up. Other than being a antagonist, what was her function?

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    1. KolleneSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:27 AM

      http://christinemarie.com/ill-be-on-tlcs-sister-wives-tonight/
      Ask her.

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  65. Sinister DrivesSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Shot of Logan and Aspyn; Logan was looking down, and looked embarrassed to be there.

    Sure moved away from that 'support your family' question quick!

    Jenelle "has her own bank account and doesn't share with Kody"????? - Say what??

    Meri couldn't wait to get the mike to "say what she wanted to say". All she said was "I love Kody". Did anybody not know that?

    Look at Logan hug Aunt Kristin!!!! :)

    I really dislike Robyn

    Points: Kristin, et al 100; KodaKlan 0 Only good thing about this show was seeing 4 brave, strong people: Kristin Decker, Willie Steed, Kolene, and the other lady who'se name I forget.


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  66. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:06 AM

    Kody walks & struts like a damn peacock!! Ugghhh!!
    **NOTE TO KODY**
    PLEASE do something about your raggedy, scraggly, dirty ass hair or just shave it already!!!

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  67. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:09 AM

    Kody is such a douche!!! When the Browns are in a pre- meeting w/ the professor & Kody says "I feel you have something at stake here?" Plus his tone of voice & head/hair shaking. I took it as him meaning the professor had a hidden agenda, IMO.

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  68. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:21 AM

    I thought it was pretty hypocritical and disingenuous of Christine to not even say anything when her aunt talked about feeling so bad and even suicidal about her husband's other honeymoons and wedding nights...she said that when Kody spent 11 days away with Robyn that she was raging jelous and mad, I feel like Christine is VERY delusional and wants to live in la la land all the time, all of these women would drive me cray cray maybe they all deserve each other, varying degrees of delusion and idocy they can all have each other and their nasty ugly prince charming with the hideous hair and disgusting flip flops, good luck ladies with all of those mortgages when the tlc gravy train stops!

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  69. Caramel BrownieSeptember 16, 2013 at 2:30 AM

    The Browns put on a huge front of unity for the panel discussion & cameras. Pretending to have each others back, etc... & then Christine getting her hair played with like he was petting a dog or something & then that awkward comfort hug he gave to her. Which I was shocked esp in front of his harem...lol
    Also, I found it interesting(the Browns blank stares that is...) when Kristyn was telling her story about how she was feeling when her husband would court & go on honeymoons with his other "wives".
    B/c I just wonder if still to this day, if Merit, Christine, & Janelle has watched Robyn's & Kody's honeymoon episode??? I'm thinking probably NOT!!!!

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    1. redwood curtainSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:50 AM

      Bingo, Caramel Brownie. These women have all confessed jealousy, especially Meri and Christine, particularly when Robyn came aboard. How utterly disingenuous of them to just sit there, as though feeling awful that way was just the most foreign concept imaginable. Lying liars who lie...to themselves.

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  70. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:26 AM

    well, the episode is confirmation of the many complete contradictions in the "marriages" of the Browns -- they reference and consider themselves married, yet they cannot actually be married according to the law -- thus they blatantly ignore and place themselves above the law, like every common criminal, and in complete conspiracy with each other. They must be held accountable in a court of law.

    The wives stress they have roles as strong women outside of childbearing, yet defend their way of life through the revealed "gospel" (gospel in Mormon tradition only) in which the sole point of plural marriage is to glorify the husband as god in the afterlife with as many wives and children as possible (Meri are you listening -- if you do not have more children you have absolutely no other role or purpose to this man, this family, this theology -- your instincts are correct).

    This "family" is so hostile and defensive that they can brook no logical debate nor criticism from outside their cult. Everyone else is wrong.

    The children, as evidenced by Mariah's complete brainwashing in the culture, are being damaged beyond all repair. They need to be rescued from the abuse and neglect they are suffering to their psyches. Rescue them. It is time for the state of Nevada to step in and help, if not the state of Nevada then a federal authority. Polygamy is against the law. Kody Brown is a bigamist -- if his wives are not "legal" wives, they must certainly be considered common law wives and entitled to all protections and rights of wives under the law, including protection against bigamist and psychologically abusive husbands and cult leaders. Polygamy and bigamy are illegal and the Browns cannot be above the law, or they set a horrible precedent.

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  71. SistahmamaSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:58 AM

    KaDoodles is on TLC contracts (along with his WIFE-singular), biz ventures, etc. The rest of the women have to sign up as partners. No wonder Janelle is not into the MSWC and Christine is a homemaker, assuming she will always be provided for. Meri is the legal wife and Robyn the shill. It's a house of cards this lifestyle builds and outside the protection of the mafiosa style set-up, none of the other women have squat. Sad.

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  72. PsychoSisterWifeSeptember 16, 2013 at 3:59 AM

    I like the mermaid pics. but I see Robin more as Ursula the sea witch.

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  73. The Magic Hat SaysSeptember 16, 2013 at 6:30 AM

    I started reading this blog because I enjoyed the snarky comments, however in the last few days I have been obsessed with reading more about the horror and degradation women and children are forced to endure by the lies they are fed regarding their salvation. Read "It's Not About the Sex...My Ass!" and have started "plyg".

    I agree with the posters who are calling for a TLC show that features polygamy survivors and how they must learn to trust and cope in the real world! Focusing on the resources available for survivors--where and how to get help....and also debunk the lies the cults use to frighten those who want to leave.

    TLC-- tell the REAL story of polygamy!!! IMHO, TLC doesn't want the Kodys of this "lifestyle" talking too much about what their religion demands because the viewers would quickly stop watching. They didn't "choose" polygamy--they are required to live it!

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  74. JRSeptember 16, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    Reposting this from a slightly earlier thread, because I think it's important for the watching audience to be aware of:

    Kody's statement at the UNLV debate about not knowing much (doctrinally) about his religion struck me as off. Hadn't I read something in "Becoming Sisterwives" that contradicted this new statement? I had to do a little digging...

    "I was excited to be associating with members of Meri's faith. They had an intensity about religion that I found inspiring. Perhaps because their religion was somewhat countercultural and at odds with certain conventional doctrines, they took no aspect for their belief for granted. They examined their convictions carefully and enthusiastically. **The members of this group were fully committed to their ideologies and discussed them at length, both debating and confirming the tenants of their religion. Every day I spend with this group seemed to turn into an impromptu revival with profound discussions of spirituality and religion that I had been missing in the LDS church**" (page 22, Kindle e-book edition).

    Wow, all of that intense discussion / debate (in which Kody enthusiastically participated) and he is still is naive about the doctrines of his faith? Baloney.

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  75. KellySeptember 16, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    Christine: If you would have commiserated with your Aunt Kristin over the honeymoon trauma, you would have seemed more relatble, mainstream and empathetic. All it would have taken would have been to go off script - just for that one instance - and you would have gained more fans. The Browns just really don't get it and they never, ever will. And it would not have killed you to be nice to your aunt Sweetie.

    Enjoy it while it lasts Browns cause it's going going soon to be gone.

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  76. ~The Bargain Babe from *Zucchini Summer Blog*September 16, 2013 at 9:23 AM

    Team Janelle and Team Christine here. But they both irritated me in this episode. Maybe it was just the crap job editing by TLC. Christine seemed unnecessarily dramatic, esp with the comments about her aunt "hating my family." No. She hates polygamy and that you've settled for this as a means to get into heaven, but I seriously doubt she hates you, Kody, the other wives, or any of the kids.
    *eyeroll*

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  77. AnonymousSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    Although there's a lot to comment on from last night's episode, I want to call out:

    Janelle, you look awesome! In the scene where you're getting reading for the panel discussion, you look slim and very pretty! You're such an inspiration!

    I'd love to see People Magazine or other such publication to do a before and after story of Janelle - even if she's not done losing weight yet. They ran a story on Honey Boo-Boo's mom losing weight - this is way more inspirational!

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  78. EllenSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM

    I want to know if anyone in the audience brought up the "lost boys". I really don't care what a few consenting adults do. But they promote a lifestyle that DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Human male:female ratio is basically 1:1; if some men marry more than one woman, what happens to the leftover men? How do they justify that their "lifestyle" basically means that a majority of the men never find a life companion?

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  79. Remorseful SW fanSeptember 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    Let's revisit what the professor said about what makes a successful plural marriage:

    1. The family has more than adequate financial resources - the husband is well off financially.

    (Pre-TLC- we know the Browns didn't have a pot to pee in and that credit card run-ups coupled with bankruptcies and feeding off the public assistance trough was the norm. Now we hear the Williams' once successful business was struggling because of the recession).

    2. The husband is able to hide is personal favoritism of one wife over any other.

    (On both shows we see obvious signs of favoritism - younger, newer, cuter, more fertile)

    3. The plural wives themselves are friends with one another.

    (Anybody who has watched Sister Wives knows these women could not be described as friends as much as they give that term lip service. In fact in the previews of the upcoming counseling show the question is asked of them - are you friends - and they're shown looking like deers in headlights hesitating. As for the Williams family, we haven't seen much of their interactions (yet) but we get a hint that there is tension and conflict between the women.)

    I can't remember the other one or two ingredients for plural marriage success the professor stated without going back and rewatching the show. But, lack of resources, inability of the husbands to conceal their favoritism and jealousy and infighting among the wives in both families can't be good. Yes, these are long-term marriages - but are they happy? We're seeing an awful lot of tears, fears and leers.

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