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Thursday, December 27, 2012

Review: S05 Ep07 "Polygamist Pilgrimage Into the Past"

This week, the family goes on a trip to Nauvoo Ilinois. Why Nauvoo? Well, as Kody explains it, Nauvoo is where "...we get our origins of for plural marriage." Oh no, viewers have asked for more details on the Brown's religion, and I think this episode is going to be one long, boring, religious history tour.

Funny, it seems Mykelti feels the same way - from the mock gunshot to her head, to her assessment that the trip will be "... boring...you get to learn about your culture. You get to learn history." I suppose she'd rather go where her big sis Aspyn wants to go, to Disneyland of course. But the producers aren't paying for Disneyland, they are paying for Nauvoo Illinois. Two RVs, traveling over 1600 miles in only 3 days.

Oh yeah, this is definitely a stress test for the Browns to see which adult will break down first. Those producers are some mean people...but they know how to get drama. And folks let me tell you, we will not be disappointed in the drama department. Nope, not at all.

From the beginning of the so-called planning meeting, I can see the handwriting on the wall. The plan for 1600 miles in 3 days was way too optimistic, in fact, was downright crazy. Of course, in the couch interview, Kody tried to act like it was going to be fun trading "one kind of chaos for another kind of chaos." Kody acts as if chaos is a good thing.

Earth to Kody: Chaos is not a good thing. Chaos is BAD.

So, this production induced pressure test is soon underway. As Meri described her plan of driving 526 miles in about 9 hours, we can see failure looming ahead. And when Christine just mentioned the possibly going off the plan to fit in an attraction, First Wife Lady Meri intoned "We're not going to do something if it's not on the plan." Christine doesn't back down. In true Former Favorite Wife style, she told the adults " The more we talk about it, the more I'm done...Just have fun without me..." Yikes, looks like the pressure's ON.

Ok, so it looks like Kody has basically dropped the planning into Meri's lap. The only problem is, Meri is completely rigid - there is no give and take with her. Can you imagine living with this woman in a closed environment 24/7? It's her way or the highway, and she won't even open the door for you when you leave. No wonder Janelle had to get away from her.

Once they reach Utah, Kody again says this is the first time he's been back in Utah. Now, let's remember that this trip was made sometime in June 2012. We already know that Kody said the same thing last week, and poor Drake's demise was in July 2012. And don't forget that fans tweeted about seeing Kody and Robyn in St George. So Kody, how many times are you going to say it's your first time going back to Utah?

Back on topic, after making an obligatory stop at the pawn shop that owns the Hyrum Smith Farm (more about that later) and some Mormon history on an artifact that some poor Mormon had to pawn, the Brown Krew got back into their RVs and continued onward to their first stop. Looks like Meri's estimation of 8 hours was a little off as it actually took 16 hours to get to the first pit stop. Now, a reasonable person would have approached First Wife Lady Meri and said something like...I think your original plan sucks eggs. This isn't going to work. You're FIRED! But alas, they only have Kody "Hi! My name is Kody Brown and I'm a Polygamist" Brown to work with, so he calls a family meeting. Meri's solution to the dilemma? Next morning, leave an hour earlier. And she adds an "I'm just saying for me." as if that will make it better. Kody offers nothing - no guidance, just nothing. He is obviously in over his head. The producers must be happy because what they wanted to happen, happens - cracks are forming...how long before it breaks?

Let's take a short break and ask the question...What would Papa Joe Darger do in this situation?

Papa Joe Darger
Well, first off, he probably would NOT have had Meri planning this trip...well, ok, maybe he would let her plan it, but he would step in and say ... this schedule is not realistic - RV trucks are not like passenger vehicles so don't expect them to speed along at 55 - 60 mph on the highway. And he would have factored in reasonable bathroom stops along the way.

And if at the first stop they arrived 4 hours late, he would let Meri know that her plan for leaving an hour earlier would not be feasible - for safety sake, drivers need to be rested, not stressed out. He would then take Meri's schedule, and redo it on the spot in about 10 mins. That's what I think Papa Joe would have done.

But Kody is no Papa Joe. That's for sure. When Mariah chimes in that " No one knows what they're doing, and it's just annoying", it's obvious who she's referring to; oh yeah, a breakdown is coming.

In a couch interview, Kody says that he likes to maintain a schedule to spend time with his wives, and that he'll "rotate based upon where we're at." Ooopsy, the Brown Kodettes (particularly Meri and Robyn) do not like the word 'rotate'. So now I'm thinking, what other word could Kody use? Conjugal visit? Booty call? It is what it is, ladies!




By day 3, the Brown Krew are already a day behind, and there's the problem with high winds. So Kody drove into a Rest Area and approached the RV Meri was driving (with Robyn apparently riding shotgun). Poor baby was tired because he'd been driving all day for 2 days straight and he needed to rest his big ole balding noggin.  Kody does not do 'having to work' well.



So this was the conversation he had with Meri:

Kody:   I think I might have walked around enough to be awake. [to Meri] Do you need a break now?
Meri:    No, I'm fine.
Kody:   So, you want to just constantly drive?
Meri:    I'm...I would love to constantly drive.
Kody:   Four hours of sleep is not enough...I stopped because I was falling asleep.
Meri:    Okay, I am fine.
Kody:  Well, we've just got to get a rotation here, okay?
Meri:    So, you're forcing me to not drive, even though I'm saying...
Kody:   Meri, do you want me to ride with you?
Meri:    Kody, why don't you want me to drive? So whenever you guys say the word, I'm ready to go.
Kody: (shakes hair and looks at ceiling. reaches into shirt pocket, as the camera scans downward we see he's holding some of his green koolaid stuff still in its silver wrapper.)
Kody:   Just keep waiting. We'll just keep waiting.
Robyn: What are we waiting for?
Kody: (storms out of RV and slams the door)
Robyn: What's wrong?
Meri:     I have no idea.

What we have here, is not only a failure to communicate, but documentary proof that Kody has officially imploded.

Call me cynical, (Ms Jinx if you're nasty) but if someone came up to me talking the way Kody was, I'd think 'Oh boy, somebody's having a psychotic episode here...maybe he needs to take a rest from driving.' But Meri was as dumb as bricks. I think it was amazing how she didn't understand what Kody was trying to say. Granted, he was all over the place, but it wouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand what this guy was trying to say. Yes, Meri, for someone who wants to work with 'at risk' teens, I'm definitely troubled at your lack of empathy for Kody. You ignored what he was saying and turned it around to being about you. So what if you aren't tired, perhaps other people are? It just seems crazy to me that this group of nitwits want to spend eternity with each other.

In the talking head, we see confirmation of what we have known all along about Kody: He's a flipping idiot. When he says "...I wanted to bark orders and have them obeyed." it was like, where did this come from? He can barely communicate, and he wants to bark orders and be obeyed? What leadership book has this joker been reading?  And do we really need to see Robyn's take (not to mention a repeat of the previous 5 minutes) on Kody's implosion? Guess the producers thought this was so good it had to be shown twice. Thanks Figure 8.

I'm going to skip Truckhenge, because I agree with Christine about the owner..."He drove me nuts...He lives in the middle of nowhere...he hates the government." Funny, but those words could describe 99% of the fundamental polygamists in North America. Anyway, Kody thought the kids liked it, I think the kids liked it because it gave them something to do instead of sitting for 18 hours in a RV.


Note to Meri: You mean you couldn't find any Mormon historical sites to visit on your way to Nauvoo? You know, something relevant as to why you're making this trip?

Let's take another short break and talk about HBO's Big Love and how the Henrickson's journeyed from Utah to Cumorah, NY along the Mormon Trail. At each historical site, Bill had his wives read a short description about each site they visited. Now maybe that would be corny to do in real life (or reality real life) but it would give further purpose to why these sites are religiously relevant. Note to producers: This could have been an interesting way to give viewers a bit of Mormon history while the Brown Krew inched it's way to Nauvoo. A lot more relevant than seeing what an aging hippie did with the eyesore junk vehicles on his property. It's not even original (see Carhenge in Nebraska).

Okay, back to the show!

Oh no, Kody is having another breakdown. Seems the motel that Robyn and Christine require, is located 12 miles away from the RV park. Kody is beside himself. He's tired and now he has to drive two of his wives 12 miles to their motel. He even sort of yelled at Meri, who promptly put him in his place with a stern "I don't think you need to be barking at me about it." Geez Meri, all Kody was trying to do was to tell you that he was not waking up at the crack of dawn like your schedule required.

What would Papa Joe do?

Well, I think Papa Joe would have told Robyn and Christine forget about the motel, you're camping out tonight. And Meri would sternly be told 'Shut up and listen to me. Your schedule sucks raw eggs. So make room for Robyn and me in your RV. NOW.' But Kody, alas,  is not Papa Joe.

Kody complains instead. The trip was scheduled too fast he says. And did his four wives support him? Nope. And while Kody bowed his head and led his family in prayer, his bald spot was painfully visible. Yep, that hair in front is like a tuft of very long hair with bald scalp surrounding it. Weird.

Finally, the last travel day and the Krew is on their way to Hannibal Missouri. Frankly, I don't see the relevance of this segment other than the reading of a rather insulting Mark Twain story about his meeting with polygamists in Salt Lake City. Major fail, because it was just not that funny and was really dumb. But we did get a view of Robyn's stomach. I don't think she's pregnant, I think she forgot to pack her spanx. In fact, I noticed in this segment everyone in that family has a pot belly. Perhaps Kody should have invested in a gym instead of MSWC if only to get his own family into physical shape.

In Nauvoo, we see the family arriving at the Hyrum Smith's home. The way their children ran and rolled around the lawn kind of made me think of all those kids running and yelling in that cul-de-sac they just moved into. Bet there are some real happy neighbors.

Robyn having a freaky deaky attack
But back to the show. We finally meet the Nauvoo tour guide named Joseph. Joseph leads the Browns on a fact filled tour, including sites where Meri's and Robyn's ancestors once walked. Of course, Kody had to let Joseph know it's ok to talk about polygamy, because you see, Kody's a polygamist! And he has 4 wives! At a picnic in a city park, Joseph turned Robyn's head all freaky when she realized that Joseph Smith's wives had brother husbands.

And I really don't understand why the producers had to include a Kody Brown dumbed down explanation for everything Joseph mentioned in his tour. After a rather descriptive lecture on the jailing and death of Joseph Smith, we came to what will go down in Sister Wives history as plyg-gate. Yes, I'm talking about the Brown Krew being told they were not welcomed at the museum across the street. Now, we don't know exactly why the museum director apparently made the decision not to admit the Krew, but I have a nagging feeling that there is more to the story than what is being told. Who knows? Maybe he saw the Brown children rolling in the grass at the Hyrum Smith Farm and decided no way, not in his museum. Perhaps some day the director will come forward and tell viewers exactly why the Browns were denied entrance.

And as the episode ends, we see the Browns sitting down to a picnic table to eat, while Kody expounds about how the trip to Nauvoo has showed him "...that others have sacrificed so much more so that [ he ] could actually live the Principle of plural marriage in absolute peace."

Yeah, Kody. Tell that to your new neighbors.




Is this Gwynnie or  Ysabel?






182 comments:

  1. I'm still confused over Kody's meltdown about driving. Were there not 3 other adults who could drive? Nuts. No planning on driving?
    Actually, the Big Love cue cards where the mothers read, wasn't such a bad idea, esp. for the younger kids. Be better than watching Kody act like a child.

    hahahahah...
    Favorite line:

    And as the episode ends, we see the Browns sitting down to a picnic table to eat, while Kody expounds about how the trip to Nauvoo has showed him "...that others have sacrificed so much more so that [ he ] could actually live the Principle of plural marriage in absolute peace."

    Yeah, Kody. Tell that to your new neighbors.

    That's got to be a classic!!
    Great Job!

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    1. Absolute peace? ummmm, 1/2 your wives can't stand you, you can't stand 1/2 your wives, they can't stand each other, sharing a home together as the family you claim to be is considered abusive, you lie through your eye teeth to make drama, you had to "flee" Utah because of those "sacrifices", and you really expect us to believe YOU Koduche when you say absolute peace? If that's your version of peace please give me a little conflict.

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    2. That's the one thing I kept thinking about - why didn't they rotate driving? And Christine was driving her minivan. I really think it was a case of Kody being tired of Janelle and wanting to be in the RV with Meri and Robyn.

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    3. The episode tells so much. Christine is happy as she has pretty much given up on any type of relationship with Kody and speaks her mind. I love this! She is getting fit and looked good. Her daughters are beautiful and quiet and generally stay out of the limelight. I feel happy for her and I hope she is cheating on him because he surely is cheating on her.

      Janelle is done also. That Smith guy sheesh come on he was just a man. Yes he was a dirty filthy womanizer type of man dipping his where ever he could. Oh, you have a husband... no problem I dont have time for you anyway. LOL... I could see it on Janelle.

      Robyn is pudgy from having given birth to a HUGE baby. She will carry that kid around til he drags his knees on the ground. She may even be trying to fit in. Look yal I aint so hot see I dun didnt ware my Spanx today and I look just like yall.

      Meri. Meri. Meri. What a mess this woman is. She lent out her husband to 3 other brides and the horrible life she lives is written on her face. I believe she is having dermabrasion, peels, or some kind of acid applied to lift off the 10 years older then she should look from her face. I dont want to pick on the kids but again, her daughter is past marrying age in poly world... that child needs to hang out with Christines fashionable daughters and get a make over. I do not think they like hanging with her though.

      The trip was a bust and boring obviously not cut out for a family of any age. Who goes across the country to see some back woods museum? Why not go to NEW YORK CITY or somewhere else the kids would have enjoyed. Total lack of concern for the happiness of their children.

      Kodouce .... your just a man. Which per Janelle is really not saying much.

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    4. plyg- gate...my new favorite term!!! I agree with Mrs. Precious Wife about Christine. I love that she is speaking up and, in my opinion, she has the best personality. She is also the prettiest. She could do better than Kody Brown!!

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  2. Ironic that anger, unhappiness of kids forced on a trip, wives unhappy, all on a religious trip.
    I bet Joe Darger's family would made it interesting and fun.
    I still don't get the blow up at Meri. Have Christine or Janelle drive!
    I place bets Kody stayed at the motel that night he was whining about taking them back to anyway! In fact, I place bets he did every night.

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    1. I honestly don't understand why Kody had to drive them to the hotel. Weren't they driving a separate car? Why couldn't they just drive the minivan themselves to the hotel?

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    2. I have this feeling that Christine & Robyn would have refused to drive.....they "need" someone else to take care of that......and Janelle knew better than to offer to drive for Meri...that would have gotten ugly!

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    3. Come to think of it, I've never seen Robyn drive. Do we know if she has a license?

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    4. Come to think of it, I've never seen Robyn drive. Do we know if she has a license?

      Earlier this season, Robyn was shown driving herself (and little King Sol) to the attorney's office. First season she drove herself (and her kids) to her own wedding. So she does drive.

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    5. And, of course, she got lost driving to Logan's graduation.

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    6. Oh that's right!!

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  3. Omg! I knew that this total train wreck of an episode would result in chewy review goodness and I was NOT disappointed!

    Hoping that one of our stalwart locals in Illinois is able to have a lil chat with the Kibbe Museum person soon! Enquiring minds wanna know :-p DJ

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  4. Does King Sol get a paycheck with every appearance...he is racking up some good air time.

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    1. I have wondered abut that since King Sol's birth, lol

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  5. This review is hilarious, great job CJ. I stopped watching the show a few episodes ago, and this is more than enough entertainment for me.

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  6. Regarding Plyg-gate or the museum allegedly refusing entry to the Browns here is the post on FB -didn't copy the name but it was posted 18 hours ago:

    "TLC , when you showed Kody and the tour guide saying that the museum refused the Browns entry because they were polygamists, you slandered that museum. The Browns were not refused entry: the camera were refused, and that is not at all the same thing. Refusing cameras is a normal business practice while refusing someone because they were polygamists would be illegal discrimination.

    By allowing the bald-faced lie that the museum illegally discriminated against the Browns to air, you slandered that museum. That was a dirty trick on your part and you owe the museum and your viewers a retraction and an apology."

    Of course a SW fan responded saying it wasn't true and how would she know etc etc. of course Kody would never lie. Yup.

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    1. I think we should wait to hear what the museum has to say. Many museums do restrict filming, however this museum has been very quiet about the entire plyg-gate affair. Almost like they want this to blow over...

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    2. That was me :)

      I based that comment on this one on that same page:
      "I found out the Kibbee Museum in Illinois was the museum on Sunday's episode the Brown Family was refused admittance to because the "tour guide" said they were polygamists. I wrote to the museum. They responded that the family was welcome to come in without the cameras, no filming was allowed in the museum but the Brown Family was welcome to come in without the cameras. This was misleading either by the tour guide or by the production crew. Please be more honest on the show."

      It's perfectly reasonable that someone wrote to the museum and that the museum would have responded this way.

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    3. Thanks Chantelle and CJ :-)

      See I figure it this way - the museum website makes it clear that they have no LDS affiliation. Of course since the museum is about the history of the area it stands to reason that they would have many exhibits of interest to Mormons. I would assume that many plygs have visited before the Browns and many will after. So why would the museum care about their status either way?

      It kind of reminds me of PJ Darger tweeting that Disneyland wouldn't allow them in (or making it sound that way) then clarifying it was the film crew not being allowed rather than the families.

      Overall, I have not seen any instance of the Browns being discriminated against for being plygs. It's usually Kody who brings it up. It's a big fat lie - and TLC aired that clip over and over and over again...KODY saying "they wouldn't let us in because we're plygs...RIGHT?" And tour guide responding "YUP because you're plygs."

      Kody is as much to blame if not more so. He didn't HAVE to say that. He WANTED to because he gets off on the whole persecution thing. Easy for him after all he knows he isn't going to be arrested or killed or anything.

      Kody likens himself (IMO) almost to the Jews of Europe during the Holocaust. What would be interesting is if they had an ep with the Browns and talking to holocaust survivors...I know there are not many left now...or black people who were TRULY persecuted under Jim Crow laws...I bet dollars to donuts he would still find a way to compare himself to them.

      Kody makes a mockery out of the term "persecution" IMO.

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    4. I hope the Utah state's attorney can use that clip to prove that kodouche is always making false allegations of persecution for being plyg.

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  7. Thanks so much for the review! Now I won't waste an hour of my life watching this episode. It sounds kinda boring, but your review was entertaining!

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  8. My spouse and I drove from the upper Midwest to San Francisco, then back through the southwest and up to home this past summer. Get this: We had a REASONABLE driving plan and we rotated driving! Yep! I know--just a couple of crazy kids! Now, we did not have 17 kidlets with us, but they had FIVE adult drivers---say what! Rotate! Oh, but I forget---that is not a good word to the "wives." I'm also thinking that if Kody was that bummed out, none of the wives would have welcomed the rotation coming their way anyway... Again, though, they keep going to Disneyland and that is a fair piece from Las Vegas...or back to Utah...so driving can't be that weird to any of them.

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    1. Yes, we regularly drive from the East Coast to Wyoming. We trade off about every 2 hours, whether we are tired or not. Unless we are driving through the night---then my husband sleeps as much as he can to drive at night as I don't do as well. We drive to Ohio regularly, too, and will often "rotate" every 2 hours. It just makes sense to make sure there the driver is always fresh.

      Hmm....maybe we should move closer to family so we don't have drive so far all of the time.

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  9. Does Meri ever stop and think about anyone but herself? I am not married to Kody but even I got it - he was TIRED and he wanted to STOP and get some rest. He was basically asking Meri to 'agree' that they all needed to stop and rest and he was concerned about safety and she was going on and on about how she could drive nonstop and she wasn't tired and why was he mad that she wanted to drive? Because, self-absorbed dimwit, everyone is tired and let's go off 'the schedule' and get some rest. Meri always has to be such a martyr. She can drive 16 hours a day and she 'just saying' she can be ready at 7:30. Well you have a 17 year old kid, what about the other mothers that have 6 kids to get ready - are you HELPING them, Meri? Didn't think so. Did Meri or Kody (I place all the blame on them, they were clearly in charge of the deal since no one else seemed interested), research how many miles you should plan to drive an RV each day? Did they realize you can't drive 70 mph? And why does Christine get no say in stopping for impromptu fun but Meri in advance plans to go to a place where they all pose together flipping off the country? Really!?!

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    1. Doesn't Robyn have a driver's license?

      I too thought it was strange that Meri made a no-stop schedule to Christine's dismay, but when a stop was scheduled Meri did not yield to Christine. This family does not work together, even on a trip all could have taken a hand in give and take planning.

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  10. One of the more disturbing moments in this episode for me was the prayer. Hoo boy, if I was a kid or a wife in that family I would be really upset at Kody. He practically spat out the words. Such a terrible example to the kids as to what prayer is and how it should be done. When you pray, what are you doing? You are talking to God. Is that anyway to speak to your father in heaven if you are a religious person? He is such a buffoon. He should have taken a deep breath or two before praying like that in front of his impressionable children. Head of the family my ass. More and more i am seeing that Meri is the nasty and tyrannical ruler of this family. Kody is the clown and provider of stud services. Robyn is Meri's minion and fresh brood mare and poor Janelle is the broken down old brood mare. Christine is the recently put to pasture brood mare.

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  11. Christine and Janelle might not have wanted to drive RVs of that size, which is understandable, as they're awkward, even on the highway. However, those RVs should have had no trouble going the speed limit, so doing 600 miles in a day isn't entirely unreasonable. I've driven that, alone, pulling a popup camper. However, it would be hard on the children.

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    1. Why the heck couldn't they rent a bus? or at least hire a driver?

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    2. It's much more expensive to lease a bus and a driver than both of the RVs combined. Plus then there would be the added costs of hotels, unless they got entertainers which means more cost.

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    3. I think TLC just wanted the drama of this particular transportation set up :-)

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    4. I concur with Anon 7:16 - they could have simply rented some big vans and stayed at motels, cabins, or even camped out a night or two just to get that good ol' Mormon Trail feel.

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    5. What about the fact they had camera crew in tow? Couldn't one of them drive for Kody?

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    6. finally seeing realityDecember 28, 2012 at 8:14 PM

      I am not usually a SW and Kody fan, but I do suspect the transportation arrangement was set up by TLC for drama. If I had been the adults in this family I would have refused the demands of TLC.

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  12. The Browns only aspire to fame & fortune. They are gross, and lack the vision for health & harmony. I'm not watching anymore, that's my new years resolution.

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  13. Long time reader, first time commenter here!...

    First, I'm totally on Team Christine. (Are there teams?... Hmmm...)
    Second, I find myself staring at the children between Truley and Hunter and having NO idea what their names are
    Third, I caught my hubby watching my DVRed episode the other night! Ha!
    Fourth, CJ- You're a genius. Your reviews are pure gold

    I don't even know where to start! This whole episode made me crazy because of the POOR PLANNING!!! "Call up Papa Joe!" I kept wanting to yell! Driving 5 bajillion miles in 2 RVs, a minivan with 15ish kids and 5 (sort of) adults in 8 hours? Um, NO!!! Wow... get a clue Meri.

    "Wow, he looks like Jesus."... "Look at his hair!" Ha, Christine. Love it.

    I'm so sad next week is the finale :( Boo hoo... What will we do until season next one premieres?!?!

    HINT: Was it RealLVHousewife who lives near the Browns? I think until then we should send her in as a spy. :)

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    1. Welcome Jenni, and thank you...I'm glad you enjoyed the review!

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    2. Welcome Jenni! I think there should be teams! :-). This episode I am definitely Team Christine. She was very entertaining and fun this episode.

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    3. Welcome Jenni. Christine was hilarious this episode, we haven't seen this side of her in a while. It takes me back to the episode when she mimicked Kody when they gave him the laptop and said thanks in a deadpan/robotic voice. LOL! Guess I like it when she makes of fun of Kody, is that mean of me? If what she says is the truth, then, it's not making fun of him, but her just being honest! Ok, guilt obsolved :)

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  14. I thought the couch session when they talked about Mark Twain's comments on the homely Mormon women was hilarious. Kody clearly think he is doing the wives a great service by marrying them at all and they are giving him heck about it...I thought that segment was fun and showed all their personalities and they were really pretty funny. The sad thing was that Janelle didn't say a word. I don't think she even feels safe enough to kid around with Kody like the others. Christine has gotten her spunk back but Janelle is just so vacant.

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    1. Probably because she's watched the episodes and doesn't want to join the rest of the Bickersons and make an idiot of herself.

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    2. I always love Christine's humor and the fact that she speaks out negatively about Kody more than the others. I think it's just not in Janelle's personality to joke around like that. I can't really remember a time when she has joked around like that much. She just seems more reserved and somewhat serious. Which is why I can't imagine how her marriage to Kody has lasted this long because personality wise they are complete opposites.

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    3. Jenelle and Kody do not have a normal marriage. Jenelle supplied 6 children and a sense of security for Kody (bill paying, paperwork, inheritance, etc...), now that she is done bearing children and Kody thinks he is the money maker in the family, Jenelle knows that she is not relied upon anymore. It's just plain sad to see a person just spiral down and be so unhappy.

      This show, for sure has put a bad mark on the plural life. I see no positive reasons to live this lifestyle. Please understand this is REALLY our perspective that this is what this family is doing to this lifestyle.

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  15. I'm confused why so many people are mentioning and comparing to the Dargers. Yeah, I agree, the Dargers would have been more organized. But so would most everybody really. Not sure why the Dargers keep popping up in comments. But I guess they just creep me out.

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    1. There was an episode with the Dargers a few weeks back...

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    2. I think the Darger/Brown comparison is apt. Not just because of the episode with them, but because they are both purportedly living the same lifestyle.

      I would never do polygamy myself, but I think that the Dargers are the "best case scenario". And the browns forevermore will be compared - for the most part unfavorably - with them.

      I bet that IRL Kody and Joe would never be friends. They are two polar opposites. Kody wishes he could be like Joe...

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    3. Just from the one episode I saw of the Dargers, they do *not* seem like a best case scenario of polygamy. The dad seemed insanely controlling and gave me the creeps.

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    4. With that many people, someone has to take charge. Since polygamy is a male-dominated lifestyle or whatever you want to call it, and women who choose to participate understand this, then it makes sense that the husband be the "supervisor".

      Kody has no clue how to supervise or even really take care of his family. Even before the show, for the most part (based on what I've read) the wives were responsible for organizing, raising the kids, disciplining them (remember last season when Janelle stated that Kody doesn't discipline or punish the kids - he leaves that to the moms??) etc etc.

      This past ep was a perfect example. Meri is supposedly running things but not really, and Kody is acting like a petulant spoiled child. Which is what he is...

      It's not just Dayton who needs stability. All the kids do. No wonder Logan opted to move out even though he could easily commute to university.

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    5. I totally agree, from the brief segment we saw of the Dargers the dad Joe appeared, just as his adopted kid said, 'Big bald and intimidating'. He barked orders and he expected his whole family to 'obey' him without question...whilst Kody throws around the word 'obey' Joe Darger has put the concept into practice.

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  16. I can't keep track of the kids, either. They grow then I don't know who is who. Which is why I still want to know who was the girl sitting with Kody in the courthouse? Anyone know?

    Meri took a lot of heat in this episode. There is NO way I'd be having a family meeting after driving all day.

    Still- the stops were tacky and the schedule was completely unrealistic.

    I'm with CPA Carol. I thought the Twain quotes were intended as humour and WERE funny.

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    1. Which is why I still want to know who was the girl sitting with Kody in the courthouse? Anyone know?

      She's one of Christine's children - either Ysabel or Gwyndlyn.

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    2. Didn't watch the episode but it's Ysabel in that picture with Kodouche

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    3. Thanks guys! I never would have guessed it was Ysabel! She is so big!

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  17. Did all of Janelle's kids (minus Logan and Hunter who stayed at home) and all of Christine's kids along with Kody ride in one of the RVs? That would be 13 people! If so, then that leaves only 7 people in Meri's RV. Did the film crew drive in a separate vehicle? I hope they took it at a better pace on the way back and that they were "allowed" to see something other than the road. I don't blame Maddie for wishing she was with her brothers.

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    1. Actually, there was a total of 16 children/teens (including Taralyce) plus 5 adults, total of 21. Don't forget that Christine was driving her minivan. I believe I read that the each camper had seatbelts for 8, so most likely 5 passengers were in the van.

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    2. Who thinks Kody will marry Robyn's sister?

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    3. Based on the posts I can see on her FB page - not me. She seems lonely and missing her friends at home. Plus she's already had at least one boyfriend. She appears to have a real job and working hard to make something of herself - also I notice that she has been getting lots of "hottie" comments from guys her age - dated before she appeared on the show.

      I think the other wives - Robyn included - went with Kody because he was the best they could find. Meri especially.

      Taralyce has way too much on the ball to get hooked up with that loser - also one more thing - I note she's close to Maddie who is NOT a fan of the lifestyle.

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  18. Loved your recap, Cynical Jinx !!
    If you ever get the time or inclination, I would love to read a "CJ-special" treatise of what makes each Kodette-wife tick. That would be fun reading.

    I think Kody's explosion was partly due to an acute case of "camera-time" deprivation/withdrawal.
    Well, okay...to be fair, maybe a bit of stress overload and sleep needs too. And maybe a bit of green-goo over-dosing too. But Kody surely was in rare form in that clip.
    But hey, what about the women (the mothers) who had to deal with bored, travel-weary kids??
    Were they not travel-weary and stressed out too.

    I guess since Kody had been driving one of the vans too and hopefully, was only focused on the road ahead, he was having problems having to actually be doing something....consistently!!
    And apparently the camera crews were in a car following to capture the road traveling road shots. So Kody wasn't getting his usual spontaneous mugging time with the camera right there. When they stopped driving and the cameras were on him once again, he just went for it, as only Kody can and will.

    Did Kody or "Events-Director Extraordinaire" Meri ever consider what a stupid and unrealistic idea it was to plan such a hectic trip with that many small children?? If mimicking "Big Love's" trip to their Plyg roots was the goal, they really blew it.

    I have to hope the truckhemge interlude was the producers' idea, because if it really was Meri's idea as she claimed it was....what a warped and inappropriate add-on for what they claimed was the actual purpose for the trip!
    One thing is now pretty obvious, the Browns do not have editing rights before a show is patched together for airing. This episode showed even more just how hostile and unhappy and ineffective they really are living in this "family."

    But not to fear..we can be sure that the camera crew has been super busy filming their moving days this past week, showing all the "stressful" ins and outs of having to move into their Mc Mansions. All to be edited and ready for next season's opener.
    Sad for them, isn't it...to think about such stress, such chaos, such trauma in having to moving into their lush compound !!!!

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    1. If mimicking "Big Love's" trip to their Plyg roots was the goal, they really blew it.

      I think it was the producers idea to recreate the Big Love vacation and to travel to Nauvoo in 3 days. If the Browns had made the effort to watch that episode, they would have found out that it was a miserable trip for the ficticious Henricksons too. And to travel 1600 miles in 3 days with 16 kids and teens? Somebody should have put their foot down and said NO WAY.

      I'm surprised no one got deep vein thrombosis from sitting so long!

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    2. "Somebody should have put their foot down and said NO WAY."

      Guess so !!
      Apparently when the producers' purse strings say, "Jump!"....
      KodyWorld's only response must be, "How high"....?!
      Or in this case, "How far"..!!!

      Ah, the price to pay for fame and fortune. Too bad those kids must pay it too.

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    3. I don't know how TLC or these companies work, but perhaps TLC only agreed to continue this show if the Brown's did everything exactly how the producers wanted, including this trip, just to maximize the drama and get the most out of this show. Can TLC take all editing rights away from the family by doing that?

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    4. I doubt if the Browns - or ANY reality TV participants - have "editing rights", other than saying (as we've seen a couple times) to turn the cameras off at this point. If the Browns did have editing rights, we wouldn't be seeing half the stuff we DO see on the air. I think that whoever said earlier that Janelle is keeping quiet on the couch because she's aware of how they look on the show after edits, was spot on. unfortunately, the rest of the adults have the "mouth runneth over/babbling brook" disease. Christine was the winner this past week but Kody came in just a nose behind with his OBEY tantrum.

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  19. Great review!!! Has anyone else noticed that Dayton has not been seen or mentioned in the last few episodes? Are we sure he still lives with Robyn or did she ship him off to her abusive ex husband like she said she might have to do in the second season?

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    1. I noticed him in the background on this last episode. It was when Christine was talking in the RV, can't remember what about, he had looked around the corner for a quick second and must've realized the cameras were around and took off...Maybe he's camera shy??

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    2. Dayton is seen in the first 3 minutes of this past episode.

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    3. I'm pretty sure Dayton has been seen in the background in recent episodes. At least they're keeping him off camera for the most part.

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    4. Maybe he spends part of the summer with his real dad...?

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    5. I really think that Dayton (AKA David or Dae-un) will be moving back in with his dad pretty soon. I bet Robyn and Kody will beg him not to move back, but from what has been shown on t.v. he will not last long with the Brown clan.
      Also, I still kind of think Robyn was pregnant and had a miscarriage at some point and we never heard about it, because in recent photos she looks like she is back to her skinny self. Would be shocked if the Brown family could keep something like that a secret though, so maybe she just realized she had gained some weight and actually lost it.

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    6. I agree with you Freya. I'm so certain that she is pregnant here that I would bet money on it. Isn't having a miscarriage considered a failure on the woman's part with certain polygamist groups...I recall hearing that before but I don't know where. Even if that isn't necessarily what the Brown's "say out loud" but it's just understood and embarrassing for the woman, I can see Kody and Robyn in particular as a couple, keeping this a secret. Unfortunately I've had three miscarriages at various stages and a second trimester loss so thinking about that being their belief is horrifying to me. I'm very curious about this but I can totally understand if this is something they don't want public for any reason. I just feel very strongly that she indeed is pregnant in these old episodes.

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    7. If that's true - that Robyn miscarried at some point after the Nauvoo trip - then I'm SURE they would have had a show about it. There are few secrets in the Brown family, and they've been milking Meri's miscarriages ever since the show started.

      If she had been preggers, we would have seen a tweet on it. They didn't exactly keep her last pregnancy a secret...I agree with CJ, it's just fat we're seeing. nothing more.

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    8. I also don't think she was pregnant. While I've never watched the Duggar's show I know the media and TLC had field days with the news of their miscarriage. There is no way Kody wouldn't have milked that for attention and the woe is me factor if it were true. I have had 2 miscarriages I completely understand why this would be a private event in most families but the Brown's have no problem exploiting their family for attention. They constantly bring up Meri and Christine's miscarriages and they televised a miscarriage scare that Robyn had with Solomon. I think what we are seeing is Robyn without Spanx. Robyn is a mother of 4 and did recently give birth to a very big baby. As someone else who has had very big babies that midsection skin really stretches and those muscles can become very distorted. Spanx can make a world of difference. She has probably just gotten back into shape now along with wearing her Spanx to public events.

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    9. I don't know, I think iconic moron might be right to question it though just because of the nature of this family and how they lie and manipulate whenever it suits them. Maybe I just need to look into some spanx if they work that well. I can see them being able to keep a miscarriage a secret. They haven't really blabbed about the details regarding moving/getting the houses-omitting pertinent info to make themselves look better. For all we know, TLC may have demanded they stay hush hush about a miscarriage and save it for another episode/season to increase ratings or else they would pull the plug. I feel they TLC is the only one holding the purse and puppet strings this season it seems and we all know the Browns will do whatever it takes to bring in the money, including keeping mum about a miscarriage. Perhaps they knew early on that the baby had problems and a miscarriage or early delivery was inevitable. Maybe they had already decided to keep it hush hush for a "surprise I'm pregnant" in a later episode but she ended up miscarrying before that particular episode was filmed so they just decided to keep it private. Just because they talk about Meri and Christine's miscarriages doesn't mean they would necessarily want to discuss Robin "failing" at this very important task of popping a million kids out effortlessly. Maybe a second trimester miscarriage is way more "unacceptable" for them than an early one. It could be easier for them to talk about Meri and Christine's miscarriage because those women are no longer actively producing with Kodouche. There is no telling and speculating is interesting. Nothing surprises me with the family anymore unfortunately.

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    10. Robchin could have been gun shy as far as announcing a pregnancy after the scare with Solomon. Quite possible they waited to tell and she miscarried before they did an episode about announcing a pregnancy. I may be unusual but normally my weight fluctuates easily and quickly EXCEPT when I breast fed so I find it hard to believe she is losing and gaining that quickly while still breast feeding Sol....although many women can't get pregnant while breast feeding so who knows. Sure looks like a pregnant belly to me. I'm just imagining that Robyn, with her "i'm the new hot fertile wife" complex, might find it very difficult to admit publicly that she miscarried....especially after offering to rent out her uterus to Meri. That would be a hard pill to swallow with wives who might possibly do the nanny nanny boo boo and secretly be happy that she miscarried. Sounds harsh, but even a kind person, when placed in this hellish lifestyle that facilitates rivalry and unhappiness, may have a small bit of satisfaction to see the new hot tamale fail at this.

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    11. Having never been pregnant I wouldn't know what is or isn't a pregnant stomach but one thing I have noticed is a subtle change in Robyn's demeanor. The feel I get from her lately is that either the honeymoon is over or she could have had a miscarriage. If I were Robyn, I would be worried about the Kodster moving on with another honey if she starts having issues with her pregnancies ya know?

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    12. Personally, i think her tummy just looks flabby, not pregnant.

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    13. I've never thought Robyn might've been pregnant until now. She does look pregnant to me, but since it's now several months later and no announcement/birth, then she either had a food baby or a miscarriage. If it's the latter, we're sure to hear about it in an ep. I hope it was the former, though.

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  20. 'Dayton' was definitely in this episode- during the part where they visit the Nauvoo Expositor printing press, Kody is standing with his arm around Dayton (Robyn is on the other side of Dayton). He's also sitting 'one child away' from Kody in the courthouse.

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  21. Hey CJ - speaking of the use of the word OBEY do you remember this famous Bill Cosby bit? He might have been referring to Meri. Lol


    http://youtu.be/WN1NihwcOhU

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  22. The plan was not reasonable and RVs are not easy to drive- I'm not surprised if the teen drivers were not allowed to do so- the company they rented them from may have had a over 21 rule to drive them. Beyond that, 500+ miles a day, for 3 days, in a car is tough, in an RV is simply not healthy. Do these adults live under a rock that they didn't know that?

    We know that next episode kody will not get his hair cut, yet I'm afraid it will be half the show discussing it. I'm not impressed with these producers; they are killing the show!

    Perhaps a spin off should occur that follows the teens as they leave the nest? That might be fun!!!

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    1. That would be an awesome concept. These teens seem like they are foaming at the bit to tell their story .. except Mariah, of, course, she has already been indoctrinated and is ready to have her own reality series on Plygdom. The other Brownie teens need to vent their distaste for this wacky lifestyle. TLC should give them their voice as well as the Duggar teens who are tired of the of the path and choices their parents make.

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    2. A book deal for the brown kids..... that I would buy.

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  23. I thought it was interesting when the truckhenge guy commented something along the lines of, "Shoot, if he wants to have five wives let him." In the opening Kody mentioned that they packed along Taralyce, Robyn's sister, with them, though I didn't see her much on camera. Wonder if Truckhenge guy assumed she was a wife too or was presented as such... either way it's probably giving Kodouche some ideas.

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  24. CJ, Thank you very much for such an interesting review. I was unable to watch since a) we were in the home stretch of making 18 dozen Christmas cookies. I think when the episode was actually airing that we (daughter, son-in-law, husband & myself) were decorating the anise cut-out cookies; but I digress. and b) it was much preferable to watch The Sound of Music for about the 30th time rather than what sounds like a real hot mess of a trip.

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  25. Is it just me, or does anybody else get savannah and gwendolyn mixed up?? Lol

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  26. I guess they're already in the process of filming next season.

    Tweeted by Mariah today about an hour ago:
    "aspyn just called mom the hunch back of notre dame. it's a mic." Attached with an instagram picture of Christine's back hunched over while sitting on the couch with a microphone pack apparently under her shirt.

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    1. yay!! excited for another season!

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  27. I've been reading this blog for a long time, and had the desire to comment, but now it's like a NEED TO COMMENT!
    First, thank you so much for this. I love every minute of this blog!
    The need comes from Christine's quip about Joseph Smith's's brother, his buddy, his cowboy, his tonto...his Robyn! Tonto means idiot or something to that effect! *slam*
    I'm totally Team Christine, always have been. I have a soft spot in my heart for Janelle as well.
    One thing I've been trying unsuccessfully to do is find the wives' family trees. I got Christine's basics, Allred, AUB royalty, blah. But I am reading Fifty years in polygamy & saw the author's interview on Doris Hanson's show. On it, she said she was related to Christine. Buy Christine is also related to Robin's ex, who is a Jessop, which is an FLDS name. It has been suggested that Meri and Robin are related, as are Robin and Christine. Does anyone have any insight?

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    1. well, actually Tonto was the Lone Ranger's loyal friend, at least in the movies and radio serial of the 1930s-1950s. I think that's what Christine meant, although I know that "tonto" means silly or idiot in Italian and Spanish, I highly doubt that Christine is aware of that.

      That said, Christine's incessant babbling about nothing really got to me after awhile - it's like she's trying to one-up Robyn. The photo that CJ posted with her mouth open speaks volumes. IMO.

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    2. I read the same book. I think I figured out that Kristyn Decker and Christine Brown are first cousins once removed. Christine's aunt/Kristyn's cousin, Dorothy Allred Solomon, has also written a few books (3, I think) which are very interesting.
      I would imagine, like the Amish and the Mennonites groups respectively, that there is a lot of intermarriage amongst the families. It's kinda funny but a genealogist did our family tree and if you follow two different lines, my mother is also my 8th cousin several generations removed. And we're just English-Scottish-Italian mutts!

      And can I be selfish for a second? Please send happy thoughts towards Arkansas. The snow/ice hit us hard! I've been without power at home since Christmas Eve and Entergy is saying my neighborhood 'may' get it back on Jan. 2nd. It's kinda chilly 'round here!

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  28. I kinda love the new Christine, she's like "This all blows!" and keeps telling them all so. Also thought that Kody calling her a princess was priceless. The Biggest Princess of them all calling someone else that??? LOL and I really really want to see the picture of the girls all flipping off the camera! We went to Truckhenge once and the guy is INSANE but he's also really nice(and must have only been so talkative because it was for TV, but maybe there are two truckhenges???), so it kinda evens out. And we went with my catholic Aunt and Uncle and their brood and Aunty was very much like Christine and kept saying "Seriously, we had to stop here?"

    The Mark Twain dissing plyg woman was kinda funny, couldn't help but laugh, the only plygs you ever see are kind of...uh... rough? whether its from all the kids or just the constant emotional strain.

    I love your reviews CJ! Didn't disappoint!

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    1. Your right! I never saw it that way til I read your comment. The strain is very apparent- even with the Dargers, the wives all carried a weariness about them.

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    2. How can they not look older then their years when they are all furiously trying to get their time with the master? Lots of work being jealous, insecure, passive aggressive and all whilst trying to look sweet and innocent. These women look real rough around the edges. Can you imagine in Mark Twains time without the makeup and professional hair styles or spanx?

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    3. I have several plyg women as customers, and they always look worn out and much older than their years. Of course, by the time they are 30 they have had 9 or 10 kids and usually are working as well.

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  29. I agree Murphy Green. I tuned in for a bit and then had to switch channels. It was just THAT bad. My 19 year old son was watching with me and within 5 min of the show starting he asked, 'WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!?" I have no idea son, no idea.

    He later came to apologize to me for making all sorts of derogatory statements towards the 'characters'. I laughed and told him not to be silly, 'that I only watch it to make fun of them myself and then go to Sister Wives Blog to hear what the others think ;) Great review as always!

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  30. I think it's so funny that a trip to showcase the history of polygamy ended up only highlighting what an unhappy mess living "the principle" creates.

    It's time for them to stop trying to convince us how wonderful polygamy is...The truth is they barely tolerate each other, are acutely dysfunctional, and at least 2-3 of them are on the verge of a mental breakdown at any given moment.

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  31. CJ-- terrific review. This conversation was revealing written out. :)

    Kody: I think I might have walked around enough to be awake. [to Meri] Do you need a break now?
    Meri: No, I'm fine.
    Kody: So, you want to just constantly drive?
    Meri: I'm...I would love to constantly drive.

    --- uh, huh.
    At any point Meri could have asked Kody to explain what he was wanted in clear words. Kody was clearly growing angry because Meri *knew* what Kody wanted.

    We could never properly see the seating (or sleeping) arrangements of the two vans so the passive aggressive conversation engaged in (to keep us out?) grew heated and funny from our outside view. I'm thinking Meri, Kody and Robyn knew the "rotation" Kody proposed.

    I'm taking the view we might as well laugh. I feel the Browns see their fans an annoyance-- necessary only if we throw cash to better decorate the zoo? :)

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  32. Thank you for this blog. I think it is FABULOUS! I look forward to your recaps every single week.

    HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone here.

    :)
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    1. I too, think it's fabulous! I am on this sight every single day, reading every single post, and I have only posted once in a years time! My husband say's.."on that sight again? do u EVER learn anything new?"..lol..my response, every day! Always some little tidbit, nugget someone has posted, to give me a much needed laugh, or a just a little more insight into this "plyg" family. Just wanted to say DITTO beach girl. HNY to all the great posters on this blog.

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  33. Hi Cynical Jinx: Great review, as always. I want mention that Kody's remark about how the early Mormons "sacrificed so much more" was not profound or original. Many LDS Mormons say that when they begin to ponder how difficult the Mormon lifestyle is, they remember how much more Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and the Mormon pioneers sacrificed. It's a common LDS meme.

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  34. Robyn tweeted a pic of Kody in a wrestling match and it's well... funny.

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  35. CJ fabulous review as always! Thanks for taking the time during your Christmas holidays to write a review for your fans!

    This was just one huge messed up idea and I'd love to hear from the museum curator as to why the Krody Krew wasn't allowed in. I tend to believe what was posted on Facebook.

    Meri, just in case you read here - you are NOT a good travel planner. I think you should let someone else do it next time.

    Happy 2013 everyone!

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  36. CJ--Excellent review as always! And the best part is that I didn't have to watch the show to get all the best stuff.

    I agree with you...they should have watched Big Love! Bill had a crisis of faith as well as losing all his Viagra on their cross country trip. Of course, I'm not sure what a crisis of faith would look like with Kodouche, since I don't think he has much.

    I do find this blog a great delight and like everyone else, appreciate the time you and everyone involved spend on it. It is AWESOME!

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  37. The episode was such a big mess and did anyone noticed when Kody stormed out of the rv Robyn just had to look over at (someone or camera crew) couldn't tell which but then made the statement what just happened/whats wrong.Gee I guess she doesn't see Kody mad ever.Meri's planning sucked and isn't Kody supposed to be the head of the family not Meri.Kody should be less worried about his Conjugal visits (Thanks CJ) and maybe try to actually spend time with is kids for once.Ok for once and for all can they please stop wearing the long sleeve shirt and tank tops either one or none,and technially if they are so conservative wearing them over the long sleeves isn't very conservative it still gives the illusion of what its supposed to do.
    Loved the review and the blog keep up the good work!!!

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    1. I agree with Roxy.Dump those ugly tank tops. I STILL don't get the purpose.

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  38. I agree that Meri's travel plan was too rigid. However I lived in Grand Junction and would make the "easy" drive to Vegas in about 7-8 hrs. I currently live just north of Goodland and make the drive back two Grand Junction in about 7 hours. So those first to days were reasonable, if that was her original plan. The rest of the trip, don't know so much about....I always fly east.

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  39. "And while Kody bowed his head and led his family in prayer, his bald spot was painfully visible. Yep, that hair in front is like a tuft of very long hair with bald scalp surrounding it. Weird."

    lol...reminded me of when I worked in a certain Hair Salon back in the day...we called these the "Donut Do's." Haircuts with a Hole in the Middle, cheesy but true. Got the name from when Guys like Kody would come in w/long scraggly hair terrified to get too much cut off and 90% of them had a ruler to measure exactly how much was taken off but had a big ol' bald spot right there in the middle. Crazy!!

    Great Article by the way! I had a different take on Kody's meltdown w/Meri though when Robyn was all confused, as usual.....Kody was talking about "We got to get a Rotation here" and even comes out and says "Meri, do you want me to ride with you?" So, basically, I took it as Kody was wanting to either get the hell away from Christine or really wanted some Meri lovin' and she wasn't getting it or maybe she was & was really enjoying not having him around. I think he just couldn't come right out and say what he REALLY WANTED cuz Robyn was sitting right there. Either way, I soooo enjoyed watching his little hissy fit!

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  40. Of course Meri doesn't have a problem with leaving at 7am, she only has 1 adult child! Her sister wives have 6 or 4 kids each! I understand that every group needs a leader, but Meri making the schedule doesn't make any sense.

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  41. Sorry CJ!! Did not see your comment about Kody wanting away from JANELLE and into the RV w/Meri & Robyn before I submitted my comment. That will teach me NOT to start reading all the comments at the bottom & work my way up, lol. I'm just back asswards that way sometimes.

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  42. I digress back to the houses. $440,000 +/- for a house. Are these people flipping out of their minds. I would love someone to figure out the house payments on a 30 year mortage at somewhere around 5interest (seeing that their credit scores are probably in the drink. Include in their an escrow account and we have an OMG moment

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    1. I'm in Australia but I typed the information on a local home loan bank website.

      $450,000 with 5% principal and interest loan over 30 years requires a monthly payment of:
      $2,415.70

      If they just pay the interest it's $1,875.00

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    2. Plus real estate taxes (which are probably high because Nevada does not have a state income tax, if I remember correctly) and insurance. Plus any HOA fees. They must be renting to own ...

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    3. Water, sewer, trash, internet, cable, gas, electric, phone. Just a few little expenses..

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  43. I skipped the episode this week and waited for your review. In seasons past, I could laugh at Kody and his tantrum but now I would probably end up yelling at my TV. On a whim, I went to their LIV store and guess what? Right now, they are offering a 20% Brown Family Discount. Ha! So if you need Green Goo or SereZen (which it sounds like they needed on their little trip), it's on sale!

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  44. I would like to offer a possible explanation about why Meri and Kody were the only drivers. A few years ago Me, and all of my siblings and spouses rented a big van to drive 12 hours together to visit our father. When the rental agreement was done, the company would only allow us to list 2 drivers for the insurance coverage. Maybe they had a similar situation with the RV rental agreement.

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    1. also, even if the RV company, said, 'OKAY, we will allow 4 drivers' (much more sense since they have 2 rvs), the other wives might not have felt COMFORTABLE driving one of those things. I would not drive it.. I WOULD BE A NERVOUS WRECK! Especially with 11+ people/CHILDREN who were probably shouting/throwing things, etc. BECAUSE OF BEING LOCKED UP IN THOSE SARDINE CANS for HOURS AND HOURS!!!

      Another thing... maybe one or two of the wives, might have SUSPENDED LICENSES???? Or, maybe, they never got Nevada Licenses??? Those could be reasons they were not driving the Sardine cans... after all,it was BEING FILMED!!!

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  45. Maddie got a new "do" and arm is in a sling... Hope she is ok http://instagram.com/p/TwRwzHxGkS/

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  46. Nauvoo has so much more going on on the adjacent church properties of the LDS (out of Salt Lake City) and the Reorganized LDS (never left Nauvoo) it is too bad that the Brown family could not have filmed on the properties and participated in some of the tourist friendly activiities that recreate life in the nineteenth century and are not limited to Mormon history. The properties go on for acres right to the banks of the Mississippi. Such a long and hard trip with so little to show for it. Maybe they explored the rest of the properties off camera.

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    1. I highly doubt the LDS would allow the Browns to film on church-owned property...they might not have even been allowed to be there without cameras. It's private property, so they can say no if they want.

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    2. There are many very family-friendly activities to do in the historical part of Nauvoo. Their trip was two weeks, so I'm sure they visited those parts off-camera.

      I'm sure the LDS and Community of Christ churches said "no" to filming on their properties. Did you notice when they were sitting on the grass with the temple in the background? They were on city property, not Church property there. When they were at Carthage Jail? They were awkwardly perched on the tiny strip of grass between the street and the fence surrounding the jail and visitors' center, juuuust off Church property.

      I can't blame the churches for not wanting filming on their property, but I can't imagine the Browns went all that way and didn't visit the Churches' historical sites.

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  47. This review was hysterical! This ep made it painfully clear that Kody doesn't spend time with the family as a whole, which sucks since they're supposed to be one big family. He should be used to all the noise and fatigue. The wives clearly handled the stress better. Kody, if you're reading this or someone you know is reading this, remember when it comes to kids, quality time with them is better than the quantity of children you have. I don't doubt that u love your kids, but if u had to really raise them and spend time with them, there is no way u would be having more.

    Also Christine made some funny comments on this ep ("he looks like Jesus"), but I personally found her annoying and very immature. She doesn't seem happy, she seems over it. I wonder if Robyn insisted on a hotel room first and then Christine was like, if she gets one, I'm getting one. I can't say I'd blame her, but her method of coping seems to be if no one else cares, then why should I? If everyone else is going big, then so am I. Not saying that's wrong, just pointing out that observation.

    I thought the prayer was nice. They clearly needed it. However, he was probably nervous since it was filmed.

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  48. I still think Kody was over acting. if he only got 4 hrs, so did everyone else. If you calculate it, they should have gotten at least 6 hrs.

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  49. This is the unhappiest family that has come into money I have seen. Geez get it together. 5 adults. Planning unreasonable. Kody the head - now there's a problem. Robyn refusing to drive, another problem. They should be ashamed that they behave this way. Robyn needs a hotel? Such a princess!

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  50. So three houses bought - all between 443,000-445,000. I bet you Kody and Meri's comes in much more..... but say KUDOS to the galas they don't own them with Kody!!!!!
    I can see Janelle and Christine working hard and actually keeping theirs.

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    1. They'd have to work pretty damn hard to make the payments AND feed their families to keep the houses, especially after the show $ is gone.

      Correction...legally, whoever loaned them the money actually is the owner. It's going to take a VERY long time for them to build any equity, methinks.

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  51. CAtching a bird's eye view of that one pathetic tuft of hair dangling from Koturd's glaring bald spot made the whole thing worth it for me.

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      "One pathetic tuft..." Perfect !!!

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  52. Nauvoo Tourism Director Kim Orth says, "It was more the problem with the camera crew and there's a lot of stuff that's been donated to the museums around the county and people just don't have permission to go in and film those and reproduce those."

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    1. And there we go....
      Yet another *proven* deliberate load of bullsh*t, courtesy of KodyWorld.

      My question is do any of them ever feel *any* guilt, any pang of conscience at all as they play/act their parts, as they spew their lies??? Any of them ??? Obviously not...!!

      They could have chosen to just say on camera that the cameras were the problem for the museum....not needing to reference the plyg angle at all ??

      They *could have* chosen to just be truthful, to be credible.
      But...they all chose to lie !! And even enjoined their innocent kids in the lie. These adults are sooooo twisted !!

      I wonder if any of their current neighbors or their would-be future neighbors lurk here at SWB??
      If so they are getting quite an education about the ethics of this "family."

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  53. Just watched the episode online. Meri and Kody were not the only drivers, christine was also driving one rv for a while. You can see it's not the family van in that shot...

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  54. In my non important opinion, the whole thing was a terrible SHAM as usual.
    In what world does 2 loads of children in an RV need to go 9 hrs a day, when the parents do not work? What in the heck was the big rush? TLC knew what they were doing, making the mess that ppl love. Do the Browns ever consider what is going on?
    Sham, shame on them if one had gotten hurt.

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  55. I'm amazed that so many people find the Browns so inspiring! I went on to my Tumblr account and they just LOVE them over there...makes me sick. Are they watching the same show as the rest of us?

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  56. I really enjoyed this episode. I felt it legitimized the Browns and their right to be considered "mormon". I wonder how many LDS were confused or upset to hear the tour guide, who is a member of their church, say that Joe Smith had 33 wives since I have heard some of them claim that Joseph not only refrained from involvement in any such activity but was completely unaware of its practice by Brigham Young....and as usual I am baffled over the fact that I(as a complete outsider) knew this information about the number of wives as well as their previous martial status yet the Browns who are (or at least were practicing) AUB didnt.....I mean this history is the basis of your faith and lifestyle....educate yourselves please.

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  57. I know. It is disconcerting to see all the idiots who think they are just awesome. I try not to look at those particular sites (and twitter) because I don't like being reminded how many ignorant idiots are on this planet.

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  58. I've never posted before but I watch the show (although my husband cannot imagine why in the world I do! ha).
    I just find it interesting, I guess... just the fact that women actually share their husband and live their lives so intertwined. It just truly baffles me, and I suppose that's why many people watch.

    I think Kody really "plays it up" -- he seems like he wants to be portrayed as "young and hot" ... slinging his hair around like he is a 25-year-old surfer boy... when, in reality, he would look much better if he cut off all that nasty ole hair. Someone REALLY needs to tell him that his long hair looks really silly on a man his age, especially since the long hair does NOT cover his balding... it in fact makes the balding more apparent. He probably thinks his hair is sexy though, and Christine talking about his "beautiful hair" isn't helping the situation. Cut the silly hair, Kody, and get rid of the little goatee, too.

    MERI -- she's the hardest one to "figure out" to me. She seems nice enough sometimes, but I get the impression that she pitches fits if things aren't her way... pitches fits and/or cries. I think she struggles with jealousy and heartache over not having more than one child; HOWEVER I do NOT think she wants anymore kids. I think she likes the calmness of her life now. And ya know what? Who could blame the woman? First of all, she's in her FORTIES!!! Who could blame her for not wanting to start over. Second, she has enough chaos around her anyway! I also think Meri is protective of her relationship with Kody and considers herself "special" in the sense that she is the first and legal wife.

    JANELLE -- really like Janelle. Smart woman. Articulate. The look on her face says it all most of the time. I do not think she and Kody show any signs of romance; I think theirs is a business partnership (obviously with benefits since they have six kids)... but I don't see that they have sparks of any kind. I think Janelle wishes she could get out, but feels like it would be "wrong"... I also think Janelle is beautiful. I hope she's successful in her weight loss because I think it'll give her a boost of confidence and zest, and bring out even more of her beauty. Her eye color and smile are very pretty.

    CHRISTINE -- funny woman (and also I think she's smart but plays it down)... But I think Christine is crazy-jealous of Robyn. I think Robyn's entry into the Brown family really took its toll on Christine. She gained weight and just looked overall stressed in the face for a long time. However I think she is getting some sense of self-confidence back in the recent episodes. Her face looks healthier and less tense and she just looks happier. I DO think she and Kody have problems, and I think she's very sarcastic to him (sometimes too much so)... I think she just figures, why not? I think a great deal of her sarcasm and loud talking, etc, comes from wanting Kody's attention, though.

    ROBYN -- Well I really like Robyn, but I agree with other posters on here that she's WAY more of a princess than we realize. If you notice, she always has her French manicure and little details taken care of in her appearance... which leaves me wondering: WHEN does a mom of FOUR (one being a baby!) have time for all that?! I have three kids (and a VERY present husband) and I barely have time to file my nails at home, much less maintain a pretty French manicure! Also I get the feeling that Robyn is very comfortable with her "position" in the Brown family, despite tears from time to time. She seems like a sweet girl, but I suspect there's a more "rough around the edges" Robyn that we don't always see.

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  59. I never ever imagined I would say anything that looked even remotely like I was defending Sobbin...but I imagine that she got a hotel room less for the fact that she's a princess, and more for the fact that Dayton needed the quiet of a hotel room. I have a son with Asperger's and camping is NOT on our list of things that go well. After a long day of being with all those lunatics cooped up in an RV that poor kid would need some serious down time. But I think Christine just wanted her hotel room to be spiteful...and good for her!

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    1. I agree with you, having 2 siblings on the spectrum I couldn't imagine the sensory overload they'd have after a day in a crowded RV!

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  60. IwillfindmyownwaytoheavenDecember 28, 2012 at 7:29 PM

    Christine seems to have had a mood shift. I wonder how she got so talkative and happy all of a sudden. I find myself wondering if she on an anti-depressant. Can't think of any other reason for such a change given how unhappy she's been lately.

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  61. I liked Christine in this episode! She seems more like her old self (from the first season and before Truly was born).

    She mentioned in a prior show that she'd gone on anti-depressants after Truly was born and as of that interview awhile back was proud she'd been able to cut the dosage in half after starting to exercise. I think her mood shift now is more likely that she's over the post-partum depression (and to the extent possible is over the post-addition-of-the-fourth-wife-depression) and maybe totally off the anti-depressants and back to her old self.

    I'm happy for her. I like the spunky, funny Christine.

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  62. This blog, and all the amazing information you all provide, has me totally hooked on the subject of polygamy! So I was trolling around the internet and discovered that Logan was on a panel at the Safety Net annual conference on June 15, 2012 with the Dargers. One blogger who was at the conference commented that he understood Logan had missed a family trip to Nauvoo to be there. I haven't been able to find much on the conference or what particular topics were discussed between Logan and the Dargers. Two accounts suggest everyone appeared mutually respectful, and that the Dargers seemed to be trying too hard. I'd be really interested to know what Logan's position was if anyone else knows.

    Here are the links I did find:

    http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=21660057&itype=storyID

    http://yehaaa6.wordpress.com/ (post on June 17th)

    http://texasflds.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/general-discussion-77-the-wait-for-the-rulings/ (comment posted by Third Cousin on June 17th at 10:23pm

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  63. I just have to say that Christine has made some truly beautiful daughters.

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    1. I think her older girls are so sweet. Aspyn is very articulate. She seems very close to her mom, too.

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  64. The wives needed hotel rooms so that they had privacy to be with Kody. His wives would go ballistic if they could see he was with one of the other wives. I read a book called The 19th Wife it was about Brigham Young and in the book the wives were all down trodden and basically starving and living in squalor so they should not have objected to Mark Twains analogy when it is documented. They often speak of how Meri is the most organized and I think they often defer to her when they want to make plans. She seems to be the family leader because Kody is quite spineless.

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  65. I do hope that Figure 8 is behind the pressure-packed 3 day race to Nauvoo. If so, then the show may have some more seasons left, as we see the Browns trotted out to jump through flaming hoops. I'd tune in to see their true natures revealed in the crucible.

    For example, an episode titled "The Barefoot Polygamist" where all the wives must share a cramped stage kitchen and have to work together under a 30 minute time limit to prepare a gourmet dinner for the entire clan. To make it more interesting, the production crew would make sure that bowls, pans and measuring cups are scarce, and there is only one sink.

    The possibilities are endless.

    Could Robyn really keep sweet through all this? Would Christine really let loose and let Meri have it? Would Janelle blog about it when the filming is done? Would we see Meri explode on camera? (we saw that once, when she was yelling at the kids for teasing Robyn's daughter)

    Yep, I think that would keep the show on the air another season at least.

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  66. Hahaha Paw Print, love it. You are right on about them jumping through flaming hoops. I got a great mental image of each adult jumping through actual flaming hoops... If Kody did demand more money, or even if he didn't and they just wanted some editing rights (aka omissions, lies, and manipulations), I can see TLC turning the tables and saying, "We have a better idea. You do exactly as we say or that's the end of the money tree."

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  67. Anyone have any guesses on why Meri's house hasn't closed? I'm so not real estate savvy.

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    1. Well if we can believe the show, she probaly turned in her options list a lot later than her sisterwives. Also, everything is messed up because of the holidays.

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    2. For a brief moment, I thought she'd become the family martyr and decided to forego her new house to help save money (and save face)? Could it be?? Sorry folks, I'm an eternal optimist :) That thought did briefly cross my mind, but I sure wouldn't bet on it.

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    3. Hahahaha, Mock Jobs, I actually had a fleeting moment when I thought that as well. Very fleeting.

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  68. Why does Robyn look so miserable in these pics? Actually I haven't seen her smile or be as happy go lucky lately.

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  69. I get that Meri was being insensitive and clueless but I don't understand why Cody could not have taken a nap somewhere in on of the RV's and let one of the other wives take over driving and Meri could continue driving her RV. Unless I am just missing something.

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  70. Love this blog and comments!

    I just thought Christine and Robin wanted hotel rooms because they have babies. Probably not enough beds in the RV's for all 22(?) people, so they would be the obvious choices for the hotel room(s). Also, King Kody couldn't risk seeing Robyn's sister less than fully dressed, because he is such a gentleman(haha). So she probably stayed in hotel room with C&R.

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  71. Just to state the obvious: Kody being tired from trying to constantly juggle four "wives" and seventeen kids is all of his own doing so---he made his four beds---well, you know the rest of the story...

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  72. I think this blog and all the comments are great. Some of the descriptions and comments are very informative and some just hilarious. I thought the trip to Nauvoo was absolutely rediculous - not going there, but the time limit of getting there. I couldn't understand that if none of them work why did they only have so little travel time. Ahhh well......paying producers.

    What I also can't understand is that Kody and wives didn't know all the history of their religion.

    Watching the surprised look on Robyn's face when they all were told that one of their founding fathers married women who were also married to other men. Robyn was quite surprised.

    Helllooooo.......Have none of them done any research on this religion they adamantly all believe and adhere to.

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    1. Nope! The LDS church keeps all the original documents, journals, history artifacts locked up in a vault in Utah. The LDS leaders tell its members to only read 'church-approved' history books and religious manuals...whih means that the history is white-washed to only spin it in a positive light. In fact, an LDS Apostle told the members in October 2012 General Conference that if you google the history of Mormonism online, that you are basically sinning, as it is NOT approved by church leaders to google true Mormon history.

      So to be a good Mormon, it is better to NOT know the history!

      I bet sobbin Robyn would have been shocked to learn Joseph Smith married underage girls, too - Helen Mar Kimbal was 14. The average age for marriage in the mid-19th century was 21. Girls also started puberty on average then around age 16. There is also enough documentation to figure out the timeline of Joseph's first plural marriage was in the early 1830's, when the revelation from God to take plural wives came in 1843. Yikes.

      And, yeah....Brigham Young only took care of his favorite wives. The rest were sent away to provide for themselves!!!!!

      Terrible, sad, horrible mysogyny at its finest!!!! And we can witness it all first-hand in the 21st century!!!!!

      Just like gay marriage becoming a constitutional right, I want polygamy to become constitutionally protected so that these people will stop welfare fraud, and quit their persecution complex about it - because that complex just fuels their righteousness in wanting to live the Principle. Stop the secrecy and it stops them thinking they're so special!!!

      Because we all clearly see that this lifestyle ain't so special!!! (((shudder))))



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    2. And, yes. . . I know that AUB, fundie plygs and independent plygs are not mainstream LDS, but just like the common Mormon history, It appears to me that the same mindset exists in ALL of the Mormon sects. As much as each Mormon sect wants to claim they are SO MUCH different than the other Mormon sects, there are so many similarities. . .and they all go back to the common scriptures and Gospel as revealed to Joseph Smith.

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    3. I recently read the book by David Ebershoff, the 19th wife, and was so shocked when it said how the wives were treated, and that only the favorite wifes were cared for. And in the movie with the same name the husband had a list on the wives he slept with. And some wives were taken off the list when he was tired of them. Just like Brigham did with his wives. I just can't accept polygamy. It's all about sex for the men. But I do agree that the women and children living in polygamy needs protection. And also there should be help for those who wants out.
      I'm Swedish so all this is new to me. I've watched Big Love and the Kody's and I love this blog and your comments!

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    4. Thank you for your information Wonder Woman. So sad that the followers are not able to question anything and if they do, they are "sinning". Not much free will unfortunately.

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  73. I am glad someone wrote to the Kibbe Heritage museum and got a reply. I know that the museum, which is OWNED BY THE STATE OF ILLINOIS would not refuse entrance to these IDIOTS because they were polygamists. I had trouble finding the site to the museum, but figured, 1st, they had very limited hours, and asked that LARGE GROUPS CONTACT THEM BEFORE HAND. This family cannot stay within a schedule, and probably should up 5 minutes before closing, and did not call ahead. Most state, county museums across the country have a large volunteer force in their museums-asking them to stay because idiots cant come within visiting hours is rude.

    But, I figured, it had to do with what the museum said-NO FILMING IN THE MUSEUM!!! I live outside of NYC-and to have a tv show, movie film on the streets, or inside a govt building, YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A LOT OF PAPERWORK to get permission. NOT JUST SHOW UP!!! Besides the fact-some other visitors might NOT WANT TO BE ON THEIR SHOW! Are they, the other visitors, supposed to leave???

    I heard the Museum's name was blocked out-which FURTHER PROVES THAT TLC, PRODUCERS And the Idiot Browns, AGAIN WERE LYING! If a museum, a GOV'T OWNED MUSEUM did not allow them in based on their 'living' situation..they would be opened big time to a lawsuit. But, because they were not identified, it shows that TLC and the Browns were protecting themselves from a LAWSUIT. Since we know what town they were in, had pics of the museum, making it IDENTIFYABLE-the state, counties and parks and recreation dept. of the State of Illinois -should be launching a lawsuit against the whole group of them.

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  74. Excellent review!! I actually thought you were going to make me pee my pants!

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  75. Summed up in 4 words:
    "He's a flipping idiot."
    And there's that brown shirt someone was asking about!

    I hate to say it, but Joe Darger would, my guess, made it educational, organized where every wife was happy, and a LEARNING experience for his children.
    Love this blog!

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  76. LOVE the review, love this blog. It is much more informative than the show!!! Can't wait for this weeks review!

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  77. What about the hair part? All of the wives raving about the tour guide's hair... made me snicker to watch scarecrow-head have to endure them talking about how great a head of hair the man has.

    And yeah, I don't agree with it all but if I had to pick a team I'd be on Team Joe. If you are going to jump into an illegal, counter-cultural way of living for pity's sake be organized and make your lives beyond reproach on as many levels as possible. You chose it, now be responsible and quit whining. Ugh.

    May Christine and Janelle win somehow in the end. Amen.

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  78. I'm just disturbed by the complete dissonance they have when it came to visiting Church history sites and finding out that Joseph Smith not only had plural wives, but, in fact, forced women who were already married to marry another man. This is suppose to be a Prophet of God, and they really have no problem with this, unlike the problem that they have with Warren Jeffs

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  79. Has anyone been by the new McMansions yet? Are the homes gated? Maybe someone caught a glimps of this disfunctional union!
    Please tell!

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  80. I agree that Kody's prayer was not in the spirit of prayer. I don't know why, it just bothered me the way he went about it. It was like he was saying my family is so frustrating when I'm around them only God can get me through it! Not that I think you shouldn't pray, but maybe such a prayer should have been said in private and not in front of the people you're frustrated with. Also, I wonder if these people crave drama. Yes, the producers likely came up with the travel plans to put on pressure but why agree to it? Some people thrive on drama and I wonder if that's why they decided to have so many children, and so much chaos! Kody seems to be the worst offender when it comes to the chaos. He seems to love drama! I mean for goodness sake he put his family on a reality show!! More common sense please!

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    1. New reader to the blog. I've been going through old posts, and I must proclaim the writing on this blog as intelligent, funny. Also informative and human rights orientated, which is commendable.

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  81. Sadly, I don't get on here in a timely fashion. Despite that, once on, I read for hours and hours. Cynical Jinx, your reviews are a highlight of the blog! I often do not get to comment, they fill up before I get on, but wanted you to know your literary works are greatly enjoyed, and the intellectual wit is quite amusing and worth so much to the blog. Thank You~!

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