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Friday, August 9, 2013

Discussion Page for 8/9/13 with some more Tweets






Looks like Robyn and Meri have on their sad faces, but little Truely looks like she's having fun!

I love how she's wearing her plastic headband, too!


I don't get it. If you're making $75K per episode per adult as those rumors say, why not FLY to San Francisco instead of driving. Heck, with that kind of income, why not charter a plane! And pay cash for those McMansions. What's WRONG with these people?

 Oh well, at least those customers complaining about poor service on MSWC Facebook page will understand that the ladies are OUT OF TOWN and really don't care if they have customers complaining about being billed on their credit card but not receiving the merchandise. I can think of a word that might make them start to care, though...CHARGEBACK.


OK, show of SWB hands now. Who thinks this question was a plant  so Kody could advertise 3 Las Vegas hotels?


Whoa there Christine...I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!!


Well, if you were on a plane, by the time you get your peanuts and a drink, the plane will be landing. One more reason to fly vs. drive.




148 comments:

  1. Love your blog - but must say I am from SF and we locals absolutely cringe when someone calls it "Frisco". It is "the City" or SF or San Francisco but never ever Frisco. Well, it is probably cheaper to drive than pay air fare for that many people and that way they don't have to rent a car while they are here. Actually - given their credit problems renting a car might actually be problematic. Just saying.

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    1. My bad...I was in a rush and typing 6 letters was a lot quicker than typing 12 letters.

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    2. Frisco is actually in Texas. LOL

      I call it Ess Eff or "Bagdad by the Bay" in tribute to the late great Herb Caen.

      And it's only $59 (on sale) to fly from LV to SFO on Virgin America if you buy the tickets during their very frequent sales. I'm just sayin'...

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    3. They are not known for their planning skills though! Buying a ticket in advance would mean planning. I'd love to know what they went there for and I'd love to have been a fly on the wall in the car. I bet the road trip was interesting with all of them in one car.

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    4. Kerouac would be disappointed... "Frisco" was the Mecca of the beats. Come on people!!!

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    5. Born and raised in the East Bay. My best friend born/raised/lives in San Francisco. His nick name is Frisco and he embraces it with a passion. A lot of people my age (late twenties) refer to it as Frisco. People about my Mom's age (late 50s) seem to get very offended by the word Frisco. No idea why.

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    6. SF rolls off the tongue easier than Frisco. It reminds me too much of Crisco :)

      besides, Jack Kerouac was from the east coast. I think he was merely a visitor to SF.

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    7. Meri Quite ContrariAugust 10, 2013 at 12:27 AM

      I don't recall seeing any of the wives fly in the past. Maybe one or more are afraid of flying?

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    8. Besides air lines or car rental places won't accept checks ;) ...lol

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    9. Agreed, Frisco is just the young hip thing to say. FWIW- something that is referred to as a Mecca typically refers to a Pilgrimage, so it doesn't invalidate the idea just because Kerouac's character was from the East Coast.

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    10. I wasn't referring to his novels, I was referring to Kerouac himself...
      The use of Frisco to refer to the city just seems awkward. I've never heard our teams being called the Frisco Giants or Frisco 49ers - most people say Ess Eff Giants. Or the Frisco Bay Area. Just sounds not right!!

      To me it's Ess Eff...or the Bay Area...or the Peninsula. Lived here all my life, would not care to live anywhere else at this point in my life because we have it all :) IMO of course ;)

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    11. Caramel Brownie - lol - my theory is that the Browns are living on credit. There is no way that TLC is paying them enough to support the entire bunch. How I think they do it is via corporate/business credit cards thru Brown Family Entertainment or even MSWC issued to all the adults in the fam. That might be another reason that they don't give a crap really about making a profit from MSWC, not only is it a plot device but it's also an outlet for more credit which knowing the Browns, they probably consider as "spendable cash" whenever they have an open credit line.

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    12. They have flown before - we just haven't seen it on the show.

      The family flew to Boston, plus they've tweeted about flying to Interview shows etc.

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    13. I thought the hip thing to say was San Fran :)

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    14. Pics of Truely always make me smile. She already has the sweetest,unique style. Thanks Cj for the sweet pics. If you go to celebritynetworth.com and type in Kody Brown they have a networth for him. I was a little surprised by the amount. Not sure how current the info is or how they gather. It may include property as assets. Like to hear others opinions on the posted amount. Thanks :)

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    15. Frsico tx is the city next to mine I live in mckinney funny!

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    16. Oh we know what they were doing in the car....don't we

      Someone pulled out their iPad and pulled up SWB ....then they read and laughed and read and laughed and read and laughed then.....it got quiet....then they read and laughed and read and laughed....then quiet again.....then they read....etc.....

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  2. :) So glad someone else mentioned the (erg!) "Frisco" thing before me. Can y'all tell that we who live around the city are a bit touchy on the subject?

    Wish Meri's twitter pic was in daylight so I could tell if they were headed north or south. I'm betting north--probably a zip through wine country. I'm going to tweet them and tell them to come up to Humboldt.

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    1. If I were a sister wife a few days drinking in wine country would suit me fine. Actually - it suits me fine right now. It is beautiful there.

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    2. QFP - my parents are retired up in the best part of the Napa Valley Wine Country. and yes it IS beautiful there. :)

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  3. First off, I agree with what everyone here has been saying but, I personally hope these adults get more and more seasons. I mean this blog here and all our snarky comments totally make it worth it. They may be irresponsible immature quasi bad parents (with the exception of Kody, he is a bad parent) but they're not really bad people. Their show may be boring but it's not evil like the kardashians or mind numbing like some of the network reality shows. They just need to get back to why we tuned in in the first place...
    Producers: I want to see more about their crazy religion, what does a testimony feel like, how do you deal with jealously, will you consider switching to two nights in a row instead of one? Let's mix things up, make them display what their "rules" for polygamy really are. Let's get them on the couch and interview them about the uncomfortable stuff, like sex, call Kody out on having favorites etc. They have a powder keg of a concept, not like people being on TV just cause they're rich. I just don't think we should lose them like a lot of people say, this blog makes them fun :)

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    1. Thank you Anon 7:20!! I totally agree.

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    2. I tend to agree with wanting to see the entire train wreck run its course however I disagree with saying they aren't "bad" people. There are different types of "bad" just as there are different types of crime etc.

      I don't watch the Kardashians however I wouldn't call them "evil". At least they made their own money from what I know about them, and they do have talents for self promotion AND fashion. I have a few of their pieces from their Bebe collection that I love to wear - my figure is similar to Kim's - hourglass with a bubble butt :)

      TLC said from the get go that the Browns religion would not be discussed on the show, I'm betting that's an AUB mandate. Also...those interviews with the questions...there have been SEVERAL shows/specials where those questions have come up - I think last year there were 2 interview specials and at least one Q&A with fans and any time a sex question comes up Kody gets annoyed and leaves or just says he won't answer.

      They might have had an interesting concept at the beginning but their ship has sailed, as each season goes by their true natures come out more and more. Kody is a lazy, narcissistic grifter, Meri is a mean, hateful, jealous bitch, and the rest of the wives go along with it while the kids struggle to find their own identity and GTFO of there.

      Besides "Polygamy USA" pretty much ate the Browns' lunch on the topic. I only watch SW now because of *this blog* but PUSA was interesting and engrossing to watch, stands up to repeat viewings and I even like some of the main folks in CP quite a bit. Especially Hyrum. Mmm yum!!

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    3. i quickly fell out of love with hyrum. i read his FB page (before he closed it off publicly) and he's a douche. very immature high school acting and apparently loves to drunk post. especially about "dwarfs" ! also, i noticed he has very short legs in comp to his upper torso. i think if the real hyrum was exposed more vs. the one we're marketed, we'd be enlightened as to how sexist he really is due to his religious plyg upbringing. anyway, he's just so so luscious to me and those hammond eyebrows look like groucho marx.

      I'm no more impressed w/CP style plygs than i am w/the Darger bunch nor the Browns. they're all train wrecks for the women and the majority of the men, too.

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    4. Dakota justice, i have seen the specials and you're right they do get uncomfortable when certain questions are asked but isn't that the point of the show? They are paid to reveal themselves on natl. television. And even if they covered those topics before wouldn't it be better to rehash those topics than the same old ones, houses, surrogacy etc.
      As for polygamy usa yes it is interesting but the creep factor is so high. I know that makes good tv but sometimes i'd rather have an affable bunch of lazy idiots like the Browns than a perverted old man fest.
      And while the Kardashians have spun themselves into stardom, I would think it's much easier for them to have help for their self promotion and their fashion since they started off rich in the first place. I only say they're "evil" because I believe they are part of the influence that makes kids (teens) so materialistic and vain. Unlike the Browns, who could possibly be influenced by them lol.
      Oh yeah and p.s. Hyrum is cute! :)

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    5. Problem is that even if the producers would craft a show with pointed questions for the Browns, they will not answer candidly or even truthfully. They *always* dodge the real questions...or they give an answer that dilutes the question.

      Whatever the original pitch was the show four years ago, Sister Wives is now a class B soap opera. May as well throw it in with all the "Housewives of.." shows. Only without the glamour and glitz.

      SWB is what makes SisterWives entertaining !!!

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    6. No one watches this show yo see women who hate each ither try to sell ugly joolery or wring their hands over their McMansions. The two things that make their situation interesting are the religion and the sex. They are also the two things they refuse to discuss. The only thing the show has going for it is this blog. They should be paying CJ for keeping them on the air.

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    7. But I Don't Wanna Have a JobAugust 10, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      " i'd rather have an affable bunch of lazy idiots like the Browns than a perverted old man fest." Thanks a lot Anon. at 1:07...Now I'm going to have to watch Plyg USA.

      Not only that, I spit red wine on my screen. Cheers!

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    8. Fortunately, I didn't check Hyrum's FB page.

      that's okay, I just want him for his body. ;) he has a little bit of an Adam Levine type of look to him and as a California Cougar, me likeeeeee....very much so. :P

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    9. Oh Dakota I swear if you saw Hyrums page before it was cleaned up you would have vomited! Disgusting and misogynistic, YUCK!

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  4. First and LastWifeAugust 9, 2013 at 7:47 PM

    I have a little off topic question...

    Does anyone have a link to Robyn's Pinterest? When I try to find it I only get pictures of her and their book from other pinners.

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    1. Go to pinterests search box. Type in Robyn Sullivan Brown. Then hit search. Then when the next page comes up at the top it will say Pins, Boards, Pinners. Hit Pinners and she will pop up draped over Kody!!

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    2. http://pinterest.com/LuvgvsUwngs/

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    3. First and LastWifeAugust 9, 2013 at 8:41 PM

      Thank you :)

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    4. You know, what I find interesting is that a lot of her "Who I Am" pins have shades of Buddhism philosophy. I wonder if she's moving away from her religion and into a more "spiritual," less defined point of view. I'm sure this wouldn't be aired, or even admitted to the sister wives, if true.

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    5. I think Robyn has a lot of "spiritual" sayings in her pins because she heard them when she went to yoga. Not because she understands any of it.

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    6. I also checked out the Pinterest page, I saw the same ones, and thought about the same thing. However there are a few that are closer to Pagan and made me go "HHmmmm..."

      I suspect she just doesn't know, she's pretty dumbed down.

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  5. Sammi from PhillyAugust 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM

    I would like to watch the first two seasons of sister wives. I didn't come into this show until Robyn was pregnant. How do I go about watching past seasons?

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    1. I watch on amazon.com. If you have a Prime membership the first 2 seasons are free. I know some watch on those "free" sites that you can google, but you risk adware and malware. One in particular my antivirus won't allow me to connect to the website so I definitely can't recommend it.

      ITunes also carries Sister Wives at $2.99/episode.

      Good Luck!

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    2. The first two seasons are on Netflix.

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    3. I checked them out from the library.

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    4. Yes, netflix. Also, if you want to buy season 3, itunes is cheaper than amazon.

      -J

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  6. I love what Christine said! That shows she does have a little cinnamon in her. Maybe we will see more of that soon...hope so!

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  7. My question is with all the running Douchey McBaggerson has to do between all FOUR WIVES' houses, and all thw "work" he claimed he had to do in the last episode, when does he have the time to formulate an opinion on which hotels are best in Vegas. I live in a fairly large city and have yet to stay in a hotel in my own town. And I certainly wouldn't stay in one if I had FOUR WIVES that each had their own house I could stay at and visit my running shoes. Could it be that he is taking potential No. 5 to different Vegas hotels while pretending to be at one of his FOUR WIVES' homes? Nah. A Brown would never be dishonest.

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  8. Does anyone know if in fact Mariah is going to Westminster college? That would be soon..and did their book say if Meri had a home birth or hospital birth? It was uncomfortable to watch and hear the intimacy of Robyns birth of Sol on TV..just wondered if Lover got the same treatment as robyn..

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    1. Christine had truly in the hospital. Robyn had a home birth. It's up to each woman and each pregnancy how to do it.

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    2. Mariah tweeted the other day that she is infact going to Westminster.

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    3. I thought it was weird that they put the homebirth on tv too.. I thought thats whymost people avoid hospital births, to keep it in the family.. Lol. Christine had all homebirths until Truly, she made it sound like they all had.

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    4. Rooney, I had the best pics I cut fromthat show, but actually thought they were too nast to put on here. Slow mo of that birth was...showing no modesty.

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  9. O Lordy..Meri is crying in the previews about being dead last getting in the homes..she caused her own problems showing up on the site and making changes and not turning paperwork in. Plus..they know by now they have final loan approval..its all an act..big sympathy act..poor meri..she cant move in by christmas..i thought it was about the kids?

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  10. OneWifeTwoWifeRedWifeBlueWifeAugust 10, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    Ok so..... Kody Brown was under investigation in Utah for bigamy through cohabitation. Now each wife is living in a different house. so, is it no longer cohabitation???? where does kody's mail go to.... Meri's? They could've saved alot of money just by building 4 houses in Utah. 2 years rent for 4 houses, traveling costs.

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    1. Cohabitation meant he didn't sleep with Meri five nights a week. It doesn't matter if you live in the same apartment complex or have four separate house. Kody did not live with Meri to exclusion of others but carried on a multiple year affair producing children to the agreement of all invovled. Nevada doesn't have such laws on the books because they didn't have polygamists like Utah and Arizona. The law was written in Utah to be more specific than a group having more than one official marriage certificate or residing under the same roof.

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    2. he wasn't even under investigation to begin with. they just talked about maybe doing it, on TV. *rolleyes*

      If anything they probably were investigating welfare fraud. Unless there's underage marriages, welfare fraud, or abuse going on, Utah could really care less about plygs. Witness the Dargers who are openly living in Utah just like A LOT OF POLYGAMISTS.

      One wonders if the plygs in the year 2040 will still be talking about how shit-scared they are about being arrested and reference their great-great-great grandparents. it would be akin to a black American being scared to walk on the streets in the Southern US for fear of being forced into slavery because that's what happened in the 1800s. jeez.

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  11. This inquiring mind would like to know how Kody can be an expert on the best hotels in Vegas when he hasn't stayed in any of them. but that's just me. :)

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    1. Well he and Christine stayed in Lake Las Vegas or whatever on that one episode.

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    2. Hey may have taken some paydates to these hotels ;)

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    3. I lived in Vegas last year. I had favorite hotels too and I never stayed at any of them. South Point has a great Buffet and drink specials. It also has an indoor equestrian arena which had great events. PBR finals, Budweiser Clydesdales. South Point is also where they had a Christmas Expo that the Browns attended. The Silverton has a Bass Pro Shop attached to it and a huge aquarium with women dressed as mermaids inside. Red Rock is over closer to where they live and has a great concert venue. They had Luke Bryan perform for $29 buck tickets. As a Vegas local I can absolutely see why he picked the ones he did. As far as why he said it maybe just honest truth or maybe he hopes to get something in return??

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    4. Many hotels rent conference rooms. Maybe some of these rooms are appropriate for LIV meetings.

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    5. Didn't you know? Koduche is an expert on everything. Remember when he and Meri went skiing and she was injured? All of a sudden he was an orthopedic surgeon.

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  12. So Janelle tweeted this morning that she was "traveling for work for a few days." Interesting. I didn't realize real estate agents needed to travel to San Francisco for work when they are licensed in Nevada...

    Also, I think Robyn needs a t-shirt design on Christine's cafe press page. It should say, "Basically," because we are all idiots and need her to dumb everything down for us. Please say I am not the only one that notices this and is annoyed to death by the overuse (and incorrect use) of the word!

    - J.
    (I always post anonymously so I'm going to sign my replies with a J now. If I remember. Which is doubtful.)

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    1. What about "I was just sittin there like..."

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    2. I agree with you J, I have noticed her favorite word too. She tells us what is going on in her talking head interviews, then has to EXPLAIN to us the exact same thing she just said! Because basically, she doesn't think we understand her. Basically.

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    3. HA! Another good one!
      -J

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    4. How about how she seems to choke herself out in the middle of sentences! Have you guys noticed? She'll be talking and right in the middle of a word has to stop and swallow! I guess its too hard for her to coordinate her talking, breathing and swallowing, basically.

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    5. So, basically, you're saying she needs to learn to multitask.

      J, I like the idea of signing. Do you mind if I steal your idea!

      dj

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    6. Go for it DJ!

      I can't figure out how to have an actual name without it trying to link to my blog!

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  13. This show is so boring I can't tell the difference in episodes. The only thing that would make this show worth watching is to bring on wife #5. Let's see kodoushe court another girlfriend.

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    1. What about one of the wives leaving? That would be better!

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    2. That would be awesome. Kadouche and meri would have to pay child support. Go christine. She would cost him the most.

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    3. I want both blonde beauties to leave...get their own show, take the kids and see Meri and Kody write child support checks on the lovely wet bar.

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  14. There are 2-3 minute clips on TLC website for sisterwifes..in one of them the ladies are getting ready for a gift show..loading the car..its the show we saw in Las Vegas. Except, they have no inventory..robyn is saying brandon has been busy and unable to make more pieces. so the conversation is should they still go? they decide yes because its a marketing opportunity...with limited goods to sell..wasnt the entire episode we saw about , gosh we didnt sell much..every line about sad sales...pity pity them..that is why people are paying and waiting so long for their orders..they dont have stock to meet the sales..what a shock..they are waiting for sales to order from Gina

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  15. $75k per adult per episode????? Is there any truth to that- does anyone know? Omg! If that is true then WE are the fools here!

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    1. Seriously, CJ was joking. Like CJ said, it's a rumor floating around. Frankly, if they were making that kind of income, that hospital collection agency wouldn't have had to put that lien against Robyn's new house, right?

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    2. They might make that as a family per episode. Divided by 4 (though I assume probably by 5 because Kody thinks he deserves a fair share) it is a lot but still not enough to actually pay for the mortgage, bills, kids etc

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    3. Even $75k for the entire fam sounds like a lot. The Gosselins got bigger ratings and according to Jon the most they ever got was $22,500 per episode (for the ENTIRE family).

      and yeah i know...the Gosselins eps were 30 minutes while the Browns are an hour, but an hour of WHAT? a lot of flashbacks, and teasers that amount to nothing. I only watched a few Gosselin eps, but I don't recall them having as much...filler and nothingness.

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    4. Didn't the Gosselins have more than 5 or 6 episodes per season too?

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  16. So, what is the deal with Logan? I really like that kid. He's respectful and mature beyond his years and has always seemed to be super involved with the family. What do you all think? Is he going to end up being a polygamist?
    -J

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    1. I don't think Logan will become a polygamist. Logan seems very rational and easy going. Polygamy is expensive to take care of multiple wife and children. Plus the jealousy he probably has seen his mothers disagree. In my opinion Robyn is Kody's favorite wife followed by Mari. Janelle Logan's mom deserves more help and time with Kody. Anyway that is my guess but who knows maybe Logan will follow in Kody's footsteps and marry multiple wives upbringing runs deep. What do you think?

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    2. I agree, I don't think he will either. I think he had a huge desire to please his family, but now that he is out and experiencing a normal, college kids life, he won't buy what Kody is selling.

      -J

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    3. Logan seems to enjoy his individuality away from the family, so Id say no, he isn't going to be a polygamist. I think he would have said yes or no by now. I like Logan too, he's very handsome by the way. From what we saw in the last episode, he is distancing himself a bit from the family, as far as getting his own freedom and space. I think he loves his family dearly but I don't think this life is what he wants, Maddie as well.

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    4. Logan refuses to say he won't be a polygamist, only that he is not thinking of marriage at all at this time. Which means he's dating & probably sexually active. Fine, normal for his age. But you know this thing will stay with him and when he does get married, he will always know if he feels unfulfilled or bored in some way, hey maybe another wife is the answer. He will regard that thought as a 'calling' because he's been indoctrinated to that choice and that lifestyle. His family will continue to encourage him to choose that to validate their choices. If he marries a completely non-mormon woman who would never go along with his sudden revelation that he needs another sexual partner (if you can actually believe all the LDS doctrines, you would be 99% more likely to fall for the FLDS doctrines), then maybe he would stay traditionally monogamous. Which by the way, I don't think works for everyone - especially given people's longer lifespans - but there are other lifestyles to accommodate those desires that do not involve having 20 children you cannot afford and the world does not need.

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    5. I have a feeling that the family is heavily dependent on Logan's choice. The other kids seem to look up to him and idolize him. If they can snare Logan into their warped world then they have a much better chance of snaring more of the brood. If Logan walks and doesn't make the choices they want, then more of the kids may take his lead.

      I think it's all about getting #1 to follow to help the younger ones along.

      There was a scene in a past season when Janelle was fretting over thinking that she didn't push her believes more firmly onto Logan and she was afraid that he would make the "wrong" choice.

      I hope he can see the light in college and save himself!

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    6. The feeling that I got from Logan is that he is REALLY enjoying college....that he probably has not run into any girls that are into that arrangement. I also feel that Logan has a great HEART...he thinks of others and their feelings....I don't think he would want to see someone that he loves be heart broken if he was to have a roaming eye.

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  17. That lien is such a clue as to the depth of robyns credit and past marriage issues. The lien was placed 6 months from the time the house closed. If robyn was working with a credit repair company all along..this should not have happened. Something is wird because robyn stated she took on all the debt to "keep peace" but she obviously has custody..her ex has not uttered a peep. So the bill from the hospital is in both her and her ex name. I think is was something lingering from her past and the minute she had an asset she got nailed with the lien. No payment arrangement no nothing to prevent it..maybe the ex was supposed to be making payments because robyn got so much of their past debt paid off, and he dropped the ball, and the hospital went after the only one with a nickle to rub together.

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    1. Remember how that credit repair company and the attorney who was supposed to help Robyn by settling with her creditors? I wonder if the fact this lien showed up six months after she got the house was some kind of payment arrangement. What I mean is, the hospital collection company probably had no idea she was now back in Las Vegas as Robyn Sullivan instead of Robyn Jessop until they were contacted by the credit repair company. Then they realized she is THE Robyn Sullivan-Brown of Sister Wives show. They demand full payment, she knew she couldn't pay the bill but she asked them to wait (most likely for the TLC money to come in). The hospital collection got tired of waiting so bam!! on goes the lien to make sure they get their money.

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    2. I personally think the credit shyster guy (the attorney didn't do anything) just kind of put a band-aid on the credit problem, to make it *go away* until they got into the houses - maybe have her make an earnest money payment to get them off her back (temporarily). but then of course, in typical Brown style, she just kind of went who gives a shit and let it lapse again. I wonder what their credit score actually is - 250? 300? lower???

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    3. also, i think it's all done by Social Security numbers, so it probably wouldn't matter which name she was under, they could track her down that way, quite easily. more than likely (I'm not in the collection business so don't quote me!).

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    4. Well, I've evaluated many a consumer credit file in my past, and yes, the credit bureau report will reflect if there are different names associated with the same social security number. In fact, it's considered a "red flag".

      And yes, I think that's all those credit repair places do - they put a bandaid on your problem and charge you a premium for the "privilege". You don't need a credit repair company to contact your creditors to settle. You can do it yourself, for FREE.

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    5. So that fact that she is changing her name AGAIN...has got to be throwing up flags.

      I don't know anything about changing your name, but do you have to give a reason?

      hmmmm...."spiritual marriage"....far out!

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    6. If you check into the credit repair scam with a reputable financial advisor or teacher, they will tell you there is no such thing. These people charge you a fee but they really cannot do a thing. They best way to repair credit is to pay your bills on time and over time. If that happens, that is the credit repair.

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  18. And Robyn would automatically expect preferential treatment, not like the rest of us who struggle to make sure our bills are paid.

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    1. This brings up a point that I wonder about. Given the accessibility of public records about the cost of their houses, liens, etc., does it strike anyone else as strange that the Browns don't seem to know (or maybe they just don't care) that we all look askance at them because of their illogical lives?

      "We're not sure we'll be able to move into our houses because we haven't yet qualified for the loans." (But they don't get real jobs, hoping the joolry sales will pick up.)

      "We're all about family." (But Meri has to have a 3,000+ square foot house all to herself.)

      "We believe in this lifestyle, because God told us so." (But they are not shown worshiping either in a church or family setting, and there's no mention of God's leading in their decision-making.)

      "Love should be multiplied, not divided." (But it looks Kody takes half of his love and attention - that should be directed towards Christine and Janelle - and reapportions it all to Meri and Robyn.)

      They just don't seem to realize that between this blog and other information openly available on the internet, no one is wondering whether they got into the houses by Christmas . . . or any of the other wacky "plots" that are shown on the show. It's all old news. This "will they or won't they plot line is beginning to be really silly.







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    2. I have to disagree - ALL of Kody's love and attention should be focused on his one legal wife and his concubines should find their own men. Kody's a selfish narcissist but the women are enablers.

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    3. I also thought it was strange.

      I mean, they are living this "lifestyle" BECAUSE of their religion...because it is our Right in America to have freedom of religion...is that why????

      Then for goodness sake, showing your audience a little of what your "show" is about is not going to impose on your sacred religion. At least on Polygamy USA they show the family all sitting down and having a prayer. The kids ACTUALLY look like they know how to sit and say prayer and listen attentively--as if they did it every day OR at least a couple of time a week.

      You would have thought that when the Browns all gathered in Jenelle's house for the first dinner, it would have been nice for them to stop for a moment and say a prayer and thank God for being blessed in getting one of the houses. I don't think we want to see them pray before EVERY meal or before they go to bed at night, but at appropriate moments of the show would probably be nice.

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  19. In West Virginia, if you meet income guidelines, you can get a medical card to pay for hospital expenses. I wonder if they have this in Utah and if so why she didn't take advantage of it. Then she wouldn't have a hospital bill. When I was in college I had a medical card for a short time that paid for prenatal care and the birth of my daughter. Now that I work and have insurance, I have a $600 hospital bill for my son's surgery. That's what you get for working, I guess :/

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    1. I suspect this is a more recent bill, because it's the hospital in Las Vegas. They've had way too much income (from TLC) since arriving in Las Vegas to qualify for medical assistance.

      It's just odd that they keep talking about cleaning up Robyn's old credit issues, but she writes checks like crazy, without showing any signs of economizing. And now it looks like they're creating all new issues.

      Watching all of them in action reminds me of the old cartoon of a woman who says, "I can't be out of money . . . I still have checks left!"

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    2. When you look at the info on the lien, it was originally under the name of David and Robyn Jessop. Also her step-father(Paul Sullivan) lives in Las Vegas. I think this was a bill incurred before her marriage to Kody and most likely while she was either visiting or living with her step-father.

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    3. I knew it was in David and Robyn's names, and figured it was one of the older kids, because both parents are named. You may be right about the timing, but hospitals have gotten better about their billings, so if it happened right after they got to Vegas, there would still be enough time for this to have gone to arbitration and a lien assessed against the house. Wonder if there's also a lien against David's trailer (if he owns or is buying it). Either way, if she had $5,000 to plop down to get the land bought, she should have paid this older obligation first. Medical bills are a higher priority than purchasing a McMansion you can't afford.

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    4. If the the bill was incurred aftger she was married to Kody and living in Las Vegas, then I say she doesn't have any excuse to not have paid it because she had the TLC income. She deserves to suffer the consequences of her bad decision. If the bill was incurred when she was still married to Jessop, when they were visiting Las Vegas, I'll assume one of the kids had some sort of emergency, because why else would you go to a hospital when you were visiting someone, and then she is a little less culpable for the bill, in my eyes.

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    5. You need to remember....Robyn is NOT married to Kody If any of her children (with David) needed medical assistance at a hospital EVEN if it was after she moved to Vegas with the gang, I would think that both Robyn and David would still be responsible for that child's medical bills.

      Now if you are telling me that the kids REAL father has given up complete parentage to the children completely and Robyn is the sole parent of these kids...then different story.

      But I doubt it.

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  20. Is anyone out there a fan of "The Office"? Remember when Oscar had to explain a budget surplus to Michael as if he were a 9-year-old and he used a lemonade stand analogy? I feel like that's what Robyn needs... a little "Oscar lecture"... except, of course, he'd have to bring it down to a 5-year-old level and use budget deficit instead. :)

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  21. So for tomorrow night's episode I was thinking of playing the equivalent of the "drinking game" but with chocolate. I'm gonna get a big bag of M & M's and everytime I hear certain phrases I'm gonna pop candy in my mouth. Maybe I'll get through the whole bag. What do you think everyone? What should the trigger words or phrases be?

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    1. Part of me loves this idea . . . but I'm on a diet and we don't allow M&Ms n the house right now. Watching one episode this way could easily undo WEEKS of hard work.

      But IF I were playing:

      "wet bar"
      "iconic"
      "plyg"
      Any mention of Kody's hair
      Anytime they show him in the car with the top down
      Any shot of the new houses

      (I think I just gained 3 pounds by THINKING about this!)

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    2. I'm in!

      "Christmas"... I think you have to eat an entire handful if they say the whole phrase... "It's really important that we get into these houses before Christmas" (One would think that wound lead to weight gain, but if I hear that phrase one more time I'm going to throw up, so maybe that will negate it. ;))

      "Blessing"... as in Robyn's constant pronouncement of "I see this business is a blessing". Could also be said in reference to children.

      "IVF" or "Surrogate"

      "Plural"

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    3. Forget the M&M's. Bring back your inner child and join me:

      Mention of rental uterus: 10 jumping jacks
      Mention Kodpiece's hair: 30 air punches (like you mean it)
      Somebody cries: 10 pushups (per crier, but just need to finish by end of show)
      Mention new houses: Run to mailbox and back
      Mention wet bar: drink half glass of water

      Gordon Setter

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    4. family
      'I have 4 wives'
      MSWC
      new homes
      qualify for mortgage

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    5. I'm not a drinker, but I'll go with the candy idea and throw in the suggestion:

      Rock Star!!!

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    6. I'm in on this tonight :)

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  23. 'We need to be in these homes by Christmas.'
    'It's a hobby business.'
    'It's not a hobby business.'
    And of course, every time Robyn cries or wipes away tears. That bag of candy will be gone before the first commercial.

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  24. I want to thank you for this blog and let you know that I am not the only one who appreciates all the error you put into creating the topics for discussion. I also thoroughly enjoy your reviews and I completely understand that it must be hard to create those week after week (especially considering the show is essentially the same show every week). It doesn't matter how long it takes fora review to appear as anything you do is enjoyed and better than I could ever come up with. So, thank you for providing enjoyment for us the viewers and readers of this and other polygamy shows. On a serious note I also like the updates on the other more serious polygamy topics. This is not only an entertaining but educational blog.

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  25. Just read 1samuel 1 and it talked about how Elkinah was married to two wives, Penninah and Hannah but loved Hannah more. This as clearly shown in his actions toward her. Even though Penninah had several children , she was only given a portion of goods for her and the children while Hannah could not conceive, she was given twice as much goods than Penninah. This created jealousy and pain between the wives and is really quite sad. The story also goes on to say that after worshipping in the temple that afternoon, he went home and "knew" Hannah as if To say he desired her more.

    Actions are very telling and I know I would most certainly respond out of pain and anger watching my husband adore and love another wife while I was being rejected or if I was just considered to be an obligatory. While, I don't hate these women, I do think they are so far indoctrinated with false doctrine ( my belief) which God had intended to show us human error and the toll it can take when we decide we know better than God.


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    1. YES! I so agree. These fundamental Mormons got confused and are doing what they were told NOT to do.

      clap clap clap Anon 11:37 You see it.

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  26. I realize people are discussing the upcoming show, but I wonder if anyone can give me the backgraound on how Robyn got in to the whole picture. Don't the wives have a "vote" on a new wife in the family.
    I can only understand why Kody(has the hots for the favorite wife) and Meri(needed another selfish wife to side with her and be grateful to her) want her in the family.
    Anyone notice the amount of soothing required of needy Robyn and Meri? I have never heard Robyn apologize to ANYONE. She came in to the family in a selfish way with the wedding/honeymoon and has stayed this way. I ALMOST can't watch Janelle and Christine deal with the other three(Kody,Robyn, Meri).

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    1. I know... the best episode will be when either Janelle or Christine's head explodes all over Meri's wet bar! I don't know how they put up with it...

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    2. If I remember correctly, Meri spotted her first and pointed her out to Kody. I think once she convinced herself that Robyn could be a valuable ally against the other two, she felt the "testimony" that adding her in was God's will.

      R&K were already dating and planning marriage when the show started, but the producers made it seem like Kody was just starting to "court" her, and then proposed.

      Then the whole fiasco of all the women wedding gown shopping together, when Robyn did NOT buy anything. Then the infamous couch scene where Kody boasted that he picked out the dress, and Christine got up and walked off. She apparently refused to do any more filming for several days. And Kody STILL doesn't "get it." Why should she be upset, just because he spent her entire pregnancy "dating" someone younger and thinner?

      There are SO MANY things that Kody doesn't "get" . . . aren't there?

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    3. IMO Meri brought Robyn into the family to punish Christine for getting pregnant with Truly. I believe she really thought she was done with Kody's other babies entering HER world.
      This polygamous marriage might of had half a chance of being a little more like the Dargers and the CP bunch, if Meri hadn't sabotaged it every step of the way. She has systematically and intently tried to undermine, and destroy Janelle and Christine. Janelle at some point put her foot down. Im guessing that when Janelle returned after leaving (due to Meri's abuse) she made it well known that she will never put up with Meri's abuse again.
      Christine's personality is to try to be better always, and didn't see what Meri was up to behind her back, as much as Janelle did.
      Kody is blind to what Meri is doing. He is a seal and she is his trainer. She has trained him to balance a ball on his nose.

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    4. Good one!! Meri sees herself as the "Queen Wife" and all must bow to her wishes. If they don't, watch out. Come on Kody, wake up.

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  27. Radar Online- Christine says she was a bad wife and thought of leaving...Robyn speaks of how much happiness they have. Conflict much??

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    1. If it wasn't so bloody ridiculous, it would be comical.

      They remind me of 5 year olds, where when one says something, another one pipes up with, "Me too, me too."
      So if the clip of Janelle gets repeated where she says she thinks about leaving, then Christine will say that too.
      If Meri is tweeting about "lover" and happiness, then Sobbin will too.

      Grow up, girls, which is it? You all have your kids watching how you operate.
      Give them something to emulate. You owe them that much.

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    2. I saw that on Radar too and almost barfed...she actually believes she was being a bad wife. No Christine, you have a bad and irresponsible boyfriend...end of story. It's really sad how polygamy strips these women of self-worth.

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    3. Christine thinks she was being a bad sister wife meaning she was not helping the other wives. Christine please hear me. You are the best of them with Janelle a close second. But Meri and Robyn - pleeeeease - they are soooooo self centered and bratty. Stop apologizing - it is time for Meri and Robyn to start.

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  28. Of course Robyn is happy. She went from having no man and no money to a quarter of a man and the TLC gravy train.

    Christine was replaced as newest concubine with a third of a man to a discarded mistress with a quarter of a man and a thinner slice of the financial resources. She also got a whiny new sister wife to put up with and a load of guilt for not liking the newbie.

    Robyn realizes a net gain in quality of life, Christine only loses.

    Of course this was similar to what happened to Janelle and Meri when Christine entered the mix. I wonder how considerate of their feelings she was.

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  29. Christine was never able to fully vent and discuss her issues with Kody. He just assumed Christine would suck it up and go along with another wife because she was already living the lifestyle and grew up with the religion. Meri aired her jealousy issue on tv and we never saw christine have the kind of conversation with kody that meri did. It was swept under the rug because kody dosnt like confrontation. If kody had been patient and understanding with christine instead of blowing off her concerns maybe christine might not have suffered so much. In watching past episodes it seems meri and robyn and kody had the las vegas move a done deal in their mind, but didnt really consult christine or bring her along verbally. Kody did not handle this well at all..im im still aggravated all the wives took of in vehicles for the vegas move with bald tires and cars full of kids.

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    1. Nevermind she was newly PREGNANT when Kody married Robyn (or about to get pregnant)....
      Doesn't Robyn have immediate family in Vegas? Maybe she made Kody move the whole family to Vegas as a condition for marrying him?

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    2. And this is exactly why I believe that polygamy, even the soft-core version like Kodyworld and the Dargers, does not/cannot work. Cannot work *for the women.*

      Each "wife" is an individual with individual expression and reaction styles. Each woman will often be plagued with jealously and resentment. It HAS to happen in that world. These Plyg harem masters do not have degrees in counseling, and even if they did, they would not be objective. They do not want to deal with an angry, hurt or disillusioned wife. That's not in the game plan.
      You know..love should be multiplied.

      I'm certainly NOT defending Kody or offering a pass for his chronic indifference. I just don't think he is capable of handling *anything* that requires insight and logic.
      He is an empty suit...make that empty jeans and rumpled shirt. He brings nothing to the table for these women and their emotional needs.
      He's great as a labor coach, though, isn't he?

      I doubt any of these plyg guys lose any sleep over which wife is emotionally struggling at any given time and why. It is a terrible way to live, and only the women can change it.
      No plyg master is going to change that dynamic.

      Even in Big Love, when push came to shove, Bill held a hard line about giving in to the wives. But because it was Hollywood, the scripts made him look and sound wise and caring...to a point.

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  30. J,
    To use a name when posting, click select profile, then in the drop down menu instead of choosing anonymous, click on 'name/url'. Choose any name you want for the first line and leave the 'url' line empty. Then click 'continue'.
    You'll be all set.

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  31. Radar Online- Christine says she was a bad wife and thought of leaving...Robyn speaks of how much happiness they have. Conflict much??

    The article also says "The Sister Wives share their fight to maintain their unconventional lifestyle in this video of the upcoming episode obtained by RadarOnline.com where Christine shares their difficulties adjusting to their new homes."

    Are they implying that Christine had the feelings about leaving after they'd moved?? It's sometimes so hard to tell because of the way the articles are written, etc. and even after watching the video I can't tell if this is a recent concern or in the past.

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    1. I have a really dumb question...I just watched the RadarOnline video and I've noticed that everytime Christine is sitting on the couch for the interviews, the end of her nose is always, always red! like she's been crying...even when she hasn't. Why is her nose always red?

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    2. No, its not really a dumb question and has been noticed and speculated upon here before.

      Wasn't the general consensus that she has a skin rash of some sort? Rosacea or Psoriasis, something of that nature?

      Maybe one of our awesome archivists can help us out here? :)

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  32. Those homes don't look homey. They are huge yes, but they look very sterile and cheap. The thing is-they were NOT cheap. I don't think they did their homework before committing to these houses. They could have got something nicer for cheaper I am sure of it. (sorry, English is not my first language)

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    1. Anonymous 4:21 -

      In ANY language, we'd all agree: they could have got something nicer for cheaper.

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  33. The bald tires are a safety issue. Not having insurance for teen drivers is just wrong. Kody takes care of Kody, and the wives andkids are left to fend for themselves.

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  34. Never really understood the reaction to polygamy as being "creepy." It's a different choice than monogamy, but its not that rare in the world and in history and really not that strange. Could be a nice division of labor, actually. (Seems Christine isn't cut out for working out of the home; Janelle is certainly more of a working woman as, quite honestly, is Meri. Robyn seems to be trying to find her footing.

    As people, they are flawed like most of us.
    Meri - self-centered and short-sighted
    Janelle - grounded, held back by her low self-esteem
    Christine - short attention span
    Robyn - unformed

    (And, BTW, a "testimony" is the process of expressing belief; it doesn't "feel" like something other than how your faith, if you have one, feels to you.)

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    1. I think what makes it creepy isn't necessarily anything the Browns do but how other sects behave. Just the general idea of older men "courting" younger women in their prime fertile time. It comes off as lecherous and predatory.

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    2. I used the word "testimony" because the Browns have used it. According to mormon.org, one definition is, "A testimony is a spiritual witness given to an individual by the Holy Ghost." That's the definition that fits how they have used the word. I've heard both Meri and Kody say that they were given a testimony that Robyn was to join the family.

      I used to be in a church where Wednesday night was prayer meeting and testimony time. I've given many testimonies regarding my faith ... but I've never been given one by the Holy Ghost.

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  35. I couldn't have said it better myself Gossip Magee. The "creep factor" comes from the idea of female children being forced to marry older men. It comes from the idea of males being discarded when they become competition for the young ladies. Kody's style of polygamy does not set off this type of "creep factor." However, when one looks at the emotional lives of the women, there is a sadness that shows. The "creep factor" for these characters comes from the financial shennanigans that they have carried out for years.

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  36. I think the factor I am finding most interesting is how living separate lives in separate homes has affected their view of the family unit they have created.

    (As for "testimony" - these people are not LDS nor are they RLDS. They call themselves "fundamentalist" Mormons. Not sure I'd think Mormon.org will necessarily apply. One of the reasons I left the LDS church was because I tend to think in a Deist fashion, and the idea of the Holy Ghost giving me direction as to my testimony and my then speaking it aloud didn't quite work.)

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  37. Also, I'd like to see more of the Darger family - a polygamist style of living that actually is more in line with the Pre-Snow Manifesto end of polygamy by the LDS church (so that Utah could become a state.)

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  38. MSWC - as you've all said: waaaay too expensive; panders to a narrow audience. Don't you raid your sister's closet for things you don't have? Design a logo; make it discrete; design around the logo; diversity your offerings (scarves, yoga bags, far less expensive jewelry, etc). Free shipping is a big plus. Stop squabbling about it being a hobby. Make it an on-line store (you have more than enough air time to advertise it - and that frees Christine to go back to being a mom and Janelle to being a real estate sales person. Meri and Robyn can handle an on-line store.

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    1. You're exactly right. When I go there the first thing I notice is there's no color. They need some colorful t-shirts and aprons, the ones they sell are so drab and lifeless they're practically white!

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    2. Why Don't they have McKeltie design for MSWC? That would seem like a win win and more people would be motivated to help her become established.

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  39. When the show first started, the premise was to show the viewing public how polygamy "multiplies love" rather than dividing it. Mary spoke of how there are at times feelings of jealousy, but overcoming those feelings makes them better people.
    In the beginning Mary and Janelle, as well as Kody I believe, had jobs outside the home. Christine was a stay-at-home Mom looking after the childrens' needs. They all lived under one roof, and the show was (in my opinion) to be a platform to show the viewers that polygamy indeed works. It was meant as a way to inform and educate the general public on how these relationships can make for a more united family unit. As well, it was to show us how these 3 women mother all of the children as though each were their own flesh.

    This is what I tuned in for. To be enlightened, educated, and perhaps become more open-minded to alternative lifestyles. I for one, would have been so happy to see how this lifestyle has benefitted each of them, and to see how they are raising all of these children to be happy, productive, well adjusted members of society. I wanted to be able to say, "Meh, it may not work for me but it obviously works for them, and all the power to them for it."

    This show has veered so far off course that it is nowhere in the realm of what the original intentions were to be.

    We see Mary as indeed having NOT worked through her jealousy and is a very bitter, nasty, snarky, passive aggressive woman. Robyn, if she was so happy then why is it that all we see is her crying? And Janelle and Christine, well I simply feel bad for them. Out of their own misguided beliefs, they are living the lives of single women, raising oodles of children without the assistance of a father, a financial provider, sisterwives physical and emotional support, etc. etc. etc. It's pretty pathetic that the older siblings need to play father to the younger ones. Lastly, if they want to live this way, fine but they should at the very least be financially independent - uh, meaning away from the assistance of the government. (I say uh in case Robyn is trying to read and understand this, I want her to be able to sound out everything so I tried not to use too many big words... As well all know when the going gets tough, well they all throw their hands in the air and give up)...

    I find the whole situation to be very disturbing. I have quit watching the show
    and I will only tune in once the implosion starts. Sounds mean? Perhaps but I would like them to stand on their own two feet. Support eachother financially, emotionally, etc. Show the love for once! And as long as they are narcissitic, materialistic, self serving, pathetic role models for their children I will not encourage their lifestyle by being one more viewer tabulated for their ratings. I pray this show gets dropped after this season. Only then will being a spectator into their lives be interesting. Get jobs a**holes! Like the rest of the population. Get off your fat a**es and do something productive with your lives for once. And lose the grifter, everyone owes me attitude.

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    1. Well said Anon 12:38! That is exactly how I feel. Tried watching last nite and was unable to finish. Quit watching when Meri (who only has 1 child as he always says) was bitching at Mykelti. I am done watching. Will keep up on here.

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