From what I've read, sounds like the panel saw beyond the facade and contradictions the Browns love to display and got under Kody's thick hide for a change. And lasvegasweekly.com got Kollene's last name correct. The UNLV public relations website called her Kollene Brown (say what?) and the McAfee redlisted UNLV campus online newspaper Rebel Yell called her Kollene Star (say what again?) Her last name is Snow...like Ivory. Good job lasvegasweekly.com.
Parsing polygamy with the ‘Sister Wives’ family on one side and anti-polygamists on the other
Wed, May 1, 2013 (4:58 p.m.)
So forget for a minute that members of the Brown family from TLC’s Sister Wives swear that they are consenting adults living the life they choose. Nobody really wants to hear that. Opponents would rather see polygamy deemed patriarchal and abusive to everyone it touches. There is, after all, plenty of evidence to suggest that. Just consider Warren Jeffs and his FLDS group in Colorado City, Arizona.
But the Brown family throws a wrench into the mostly well-deserved stereotypes, challenging the intolerance that so many have sworn to based on reports of sexism and child abuse. The Browns invited cameras into their homes to counter negative representations of polygamy. And if defending such a nontraditional lifestyle isn’t daunting enough, last Thursday they joined a UNLV panel with noted anti-polygamists whose personal experiences have led them to speak out against the lifestyle. Professor William Jankowiak urged the audience to consider each person’s story without drawing one generalization, but that didn’t go quite far enough. Generalizations shouldn’t even apply here.
While the Brown sister wives—Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn—spoke of great childhoods with multiple mothers and grandmothers, along with loving fathers, Willie Steed (from the documentary Breaking Polygamy: The Reeducation of Willie Steed) talked about child labor, an abusive father, a lack of education and hiding from the feds because of his family’s ties to Jeffs. A former FLDS child, he was also instructed not to show affection toward his mother, he said. “My experience of polygamy was hell. They say this life was about free agency. This was not free agency. Children really take a beating in polygamy.”
While Christine Brown talked about growing up with her father’s sister wives and wanting that for herself and for her children, Kollene Snow (formerly of the polygamist Mormon Kingston Clan) talked about not knowing what love was and how sister wives “hate each other.”
Adding to that was Kristyn Decker, author of Fifty Years in Polygamy: Big Secrets and Little White Lies, who spoke about the heartbreak of having to share her husband and the physical abuse she saw as a child. Decker is also the aunt of Christine Brown on "Sister Wives." Also on the panel was Christine Marie Katas, who was swindled and prostituted out by a man claiming to be a prophet, then later founded the organization, Voices for Dignity, which (among other things) takes a stance against legalizing polygamy.
The discussion grew tense with both sides throwing barbs, but the Browns mostly defending their lifestyle.
"Secrecy is a Petri dish for abuse," said Kody Brown to his critics on the panel, who said polygamy is harmful to families. "We have a transparent family. Our experience isn't your experience."
You can read the rest of the article here:
Parsing polygamy with the ‘Sister Wives’
In other news (namely the Jodi Arias Trial)
Now, I watched Arias carefully today...she was obviously drawing a picture (or pictures) for most of the day...she apparently draws with her right hand and writes with left. For all the time and money being spent to defend her, I think the very least she could do would be to pay attention. Let me clarify that...if the discussion is about her, or about the gruesome murder she is all ears. Any other time she can't be bothered. But the closing arguments start on Thursday, so we should know soon how the jury will decide her fate.
Hey, Juan Martinez just rested his case, and the Judge dismissed court for the evening! The trial will be coming to an end soon!!! Eleven and a half hours has got to be a record!
Guess who's tweeting about you know who? Yep, the Donald!
Jodi Arias has stated that she follows me on twitter so I really hate to be saying that she is guilty but sadly, she is as guilty as it gets
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 2, 2013
Coming soon...The Browns Twitter Nonsense and Robyn posted a new blog entry today. She should have called it 'It's not easy being skinny...'
UPDATE 5/6/13
All morning, I've been waiting for the jury decision on Jodi Arias AND watching a backlog of DVR'd shows from this weekend.
As we all know, TLC has not been promoting the 'return' of Sister Wives. So what's a plural family to do to get their faces out to their diehard fanbase?
- Make an appearance on their Facebook fanpages (including MSWC and TLC's official fanpage)....(are you krazeee?????)
- How about making an appearance on a national morning show, like The Today Show or ABCs Good Morning. Heck, how about CBS The Morning Show? (again, that would make too much sense so are you still krazeee?????)
- Okay, why not have your "manager" tweet ONLY to the plural family in question to watch Fox5, and then have Janelle (and so far just Janelle) retweet to all her fans? (now THAT sounds like an act of futility if I ever heard one)
Hmmmm.....I wonder which would have the least affect on the least number of fans??? Yep, you got it....the winner is......NUMBER THREE!!!!
Okay, so it was to promote a charity drive, but goodness gracious, Fox5 is a local Vegas station! And it's a FOX affiliate for crying out loud!
Oh, how the mighty have fallen....
But we are in luck, Fox5's morning show put the two videos of the Browns online for all of us across the USA to enjoy. So here they are, enjoy!!!
FOX5 Vegas - KVVU
FOX5 Vegas - KVVU
This is an off topic zone, so discuss away!!
I wish I could have attended this panel discussion. It would be nice if someone would post a video to Youtube for us!
ReplyDeleteSounds like they got under Kody's skin which while it didn't achieve anything much, let him know that there are thinking adults out there who don't swoon when he mentions "yeah, I have 4 wives."
I think one of the best parts would have been Christine's aunt speaking out against polygamy and Kollene. Kollene IMHO has it going on and I believe she's going places.
This article talks about a woman that was prostituted out and swindled by a man claiming to be the prophet. I see a show on ID channel called " Dangerous persuasions" And it sounds like the same women. I'll have to look it up to see if it is.
ReplyDeleteOk, I just looked it up and it is the same woman. The whole time I was watching the show I sat the with my mouth hanging open. Her story was so outrageous.
ReplyDeleteWhy am I just noticing Kody's Elvis sideburns? Have they always been there?
ReplyDeleteIt's an old picture.
DeleteI figured it must be an old picture, because Meri isn't huge yet, and Robin is actually thin, which despite what she says in her blog, she really isn't anymore...I would call her more "normal" or "regular" now...to my eyes, at least, she has filled out a bit. In any case, the worst thing about the picture was the disgusting way Meri had her body all pressed up against Koduche's thigh/hip.....ewwww!
DeleteWhat Kristyn Decker said was all the more relevant because she is an ex member of AUB - the same polygamist group as the Brownse. Her father was President of AUB and she paints a very different picture of polygamist "bliss!"
ReplyDeleteOkay...Now I want the same panel discussion at UNLV to take place all over again with the exact same people opposed to polygamy but this time replacing the Browns with the Dargers. If they would do it, that would make for a similar yet different discussion. These days it seems almost easy to "win" a debate against the Browns because, well, they're kind of weak!! Its almost like cheating to have such an important discussion with nitwits! :-) Now I know, some people would argue with me that the Dargers aren't as bright either to be living and defending that same lifestyle. But something tells me that they can hold a discussion much better than the Brown family. They come off as a stern and stronger bunch. I just think it would be a lot more interesting.
ReplyDeleteKody comes across as a not very bright, slobby, rather stupid manchild who would rather be wrestling his sons or shooting off a gun instead of spending quality time with ALL his children. Isn't that what his show is all about? Kody doesn't know that he is the poster child of everything wrong with polygamy. So I think the only thing Kody shares with Joe Darger is the fact they believe in plural family. Other than that, Kody can't compete with Joe. Joe is on a different level altogether. Joe doesn't socialize with Zlisted Vegas strip celebrities. Joe's wives can function as a unit in one house. Joe is organized. Joe has not publicly aligned himself with a MLM that sells diet supplements and owns his business. Joe's wives own a cleaning service which is more relevant in the real world than a online store selling overpriced junk jewelry. Joe appears to live within his means. Joe is comfortable in plural marriage while it is really obvious Kody is not. Kody lives as a monogamist man with 1 wife and 3 mistresses in 4 separate households.
DeleteA very accurate comparison of the 2 families. Kody & the wives are a big joke. This board is the only reason for me to pay any attention to them at all.
DeleteThe Dargers are a little creepier in my book. So, children how is it that your aunt is also one of your mothers? Ewwww.... You are cousins yet also brothers and sisters right? Ewwww...
DeleteJoe Darger needs to learn how to relax. He just looks totally high strung and about to snap every time I've seen him. Like a predator ready to pounce and devour unsuspecting prey.
DeleteRemember what they said about Mussolini? Trains ran on time! But at what cost?
I liked the show due to it bringing the issue of Polygamy to my mind for thought. I have never seen in the Brown home any type of "good polygamy". What I have appreciated is that I have had my mind opened to this as a real social problem and it has led me to research more. I think the Darger's are a better example of "good polygamy" if there is such a thing but I have to say their family seems to be troubled as well.
DeleteLove the post about Mussolini and Joe Darger. So true! Kody is a clown, but there is something very disturbing about the Darger set up.
DeleteThat marathon session yesterday in the Arias trial was brutal...for the jury and the Alexander family. Seriously, I can't imagine the brain fatigue this jury and that family must be experiencing at this point. At least when we watch we can move around, get some food, get some air, etc. They are trapped listening to minutia after minutia, deflection after deflection.
ReplyDeleteMartinez's choice for the late entry neuropsychologist witness for the state was brilliant.
She was poised, articulate *knowledgeable* and more than ready for Willmott's inane and pointless questions.
It's too bad that Judge Stephens was not more judge-like and organized all along about timelines. For her to *finally* mandate the wrap-up yesterday forces Martinez to have do his all important closing today, right after yesterday's loooong appearance. He too looked very tired by the time they finished last night.
And yep, unbelievably, there Arias sat...drawing, doodling, writing, erasing while Travis's family sat numbed and exhausted, the lawyers doing their thing, the judge fielding all the sidebars and objections....and she sits there busy and intent on creating more "art" to sell.
This creature has no soul, no heart, no humanity !!!
Watching JM right now. Jodi making a lot of faces when she occasionally picks her head up from her artwork and pays attention. Seems JM is focusing in on her lies and how she thinks nothing is her fault. It will be interesting to see how Nurmi counters this.
DeleteWatching her "fake" crying is very disturbing.
Delete**NO** tears come out of her eyes....None !! She simply keeps dabbing the tissues on her nose as to effect crying..and to produce a reddened nose.
Who cries through their nose when *nothing* comes out of their eyes?
Who cries without having to actually *blow* their nose?
Even in his closing, Juan Martinez drew attention to her effort "to pretend" to be crying *today.*
And yes, she would occasionally look up and shake her head or mumble something to WIllmott as Martinez was speaking.
On that note, was there any reason why WIllmott had to sit literally almost touching shoulder to shoulder with Arias during four months of testimony??
However....for Arias to sit there *TODAY* on closing arguments from the State of AZ for her brutal murdering of Travis Alexander, and to continue to draw and erase, and IGNORE what is going on is evil, is
beyond reason, and is unmistakably pathological/ sociopathic behavior. Imagine being a juror and watching that behavior..?!
I think she might be trying to prove she's a frigging idiot because only a frigging idiot would sit there and draw pictures when their life is on the line! So disrespectful to everyone involved!
DeleteAnd I am so surprised she didn't complain about a migraine today. JM made sure the jury knew how "convenient" her pretending to cry was while she saw the horror she unleashed on an unarmed, naked man. Did you catch her sneaking a peek at the autopsy pictures while she was "crying"?
I loved JM's hoards of Pasadena skateboarders at Starbucks who carry screwdrivers and like to turn license plates upside down speech!!
"Did you catch her sneaking a peek at the autopsy pictures while she was "crying"?"
DeleteYes, I saw that!! But considering she asked to see those photos several times with Det. Flores and then with the female detective (who refused to show them to her again), she obviously has a morbid fascination (thrill) seeing what horror she did.
What a sick, sick, evil bitch !!
"I loved JM's hoards of Pasadena skateboarders at Starbucks who carry screwdrivers and like to turn license plates upside down speech!! "
Yep, Juan was in rare form.
And how about his "must have been a stampede of wildebeasts" when showing the photo of all of her bloody footprints all around the huge blood stain in the hall where Travis bled out after she cut his throat.
yesterday, meri tweeted, 'My palate is totally changing! I love avocados, & I'm sitting here eating blueberries, 2 things I wouldn't have touched 6 months ago! Weird!'.
ReplyDeleteunsurprisingly, somebody asked if she was pregnant. i just checked and this comment has disappeared. make of that what you will.
If a tweet is sent and deleted, there is still a record of the tweet from the sender's side. Just do a search on @meribrown1. If the tweet still don't appear, maybe the tweet wasn't sent in the first place. Just sayin...
Deleteit wasn't me who sent the tweet, i just saw it and chuckled and wondered if she'd address the question. i checked back today and it was gone from the list of replies. i'm embarrassed to admit this as i'm not yet 30, but i don't really understand how to search for things on twitter. i just assume that meri deleted the comment and/or blocked the sender so she wouldn't have to answer.
DeleteEverything not rear-kissing gets deleted immediately and the sender blocked. Wonder if she is trying to create interest in the new season, by making people wonder is she or isn't she. I don't think she is, and I am pretty certain. Then again you never know in the Brown Circus. They could always act like she is and pretend she has a miscarriage (very insensitive to people who have suffered misses).
DeleteAvocados and blueberries are something she wouldn't have thought of eating 6 months ago, yet in the first season(s) she would go on and on about how she cooked for herself and how Mariah and she have such a higher taste level and only eat healthy food.
When I saw that tweet my first thought was - what a lame way to try make people wonder about the whole pregnancy issue. Honestly I am so sick if that whole issue that if it isn't resolved quickly there will be no more watching the Browns for me. I can follow on SWB and laugh at them.
DeleteMeri is having issues with Janelle loosing weight and improving her diet and lifestyle. Meri has bashed Janelle the whole time they have been a family..calling her lazy and having the quiet voice. I think Meri was abused as a child by her mothers. Meri is trying to copy Janelle but do it better because Janelle has gotten positive response from the public. Meri is jealous. A jealous Meri is a scary Meri.She is not pregnant..shes trying to steal Janelles spotlight..just like Robyn doing pity blogs.
Deletewhat a lame way to try make people wonder about the whole pregnancy issue
DeleteLike I've been saying, these people have been living in a different world that was out of date 50 years ago. They think a tweet like that is 'funny', we see it as lame and sophomoric.
If you look at Janelle's tweet from 5 days ago she states she is down another size! Then here comes Meri with her healthy food log! It is just jealousy over Janelle!
DeleteQuestion: Avocados and blueberries are DELICIOUS - why would she not like them? And AHEM - did we not see an episode well over a YEAR AGO with them eating at their FAVORITE MEXICAN RESTAURANT featuring guacamole? which is basically...smushed avocados??? please.
DeleteAvocados are one of those foods that while very healthy, still has a lot of calories and must be eaten in moderation.
Now if she said "I've started loving brussels sprouts/kale/collard greens (or any other green vegetable) i WOULD be impressed. But blueberries and avocados...meh.
Remember this is the woman who almost vomited when Christine gave her a mint brownie by mistake. And you are right that their (or maybe Kody's) fav restaurant was Mexican food. Which reminds of a college friend who ordered a cheese enchilada without onions, spices or enchilada sauce. This was at an upscale restaurant (we were guests of another friend's parent) - needless to say we were mortified as this girl had no problems eating italien or burgers with onions!
DeleteI would have given anything to have attended that panel just to see Christine and Kristyn face off.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since Christine's mother LEFT her father and the AUB. That's not showing a lot of love. Makes you wonder why her mother took such extreme steps. Was she getting away from an abusive husband and/or sisterwives?
DeleteI would like to see FLora Jessop face off with Christine.
DeleteModest, a Flora/Christine face off would be like...my face off with an annoying fly in my kitchen. SMACK! SPLAT. Flora is the flyswatter. Rosecoloredglasses wouldn't stand a chance.
DeleteCouple years ago I watched a call in talk show that had the Dargers on. Flora Jessop was a surprise call in guest. I thought she would be more confronting than she was and it seemed like she was kind of subdued. I was disappointed.
DeleteHow long or short will deliberations take? What does everyone think?
ReplyDeleteI think the Judge said closing arguments were Thursday and Friday with the jury getting the case on Monday. According to HLN, they don't see JM finishing until later today or even tomorrow. And since Nurmi is giving the closing arguments for the defense, there's no telling how long he will drone on and on.
DeleteWhile I'm at it, happy cruising AZChristian! Wish I was with ya!!
I think JM is doing a good job so far, as long as he keeps focusing on Arias' lies and the premeditation on her part, and how she was the stalker and the aggressor in her relationship with TA.
I agree, Martinez is doing his best to keep the jury focused on her relentless lies AND her premeditation AND her manipulation.
DeleteAnd obviously he has not forgotten LaViolette's attempt to slam him. He is going after her testimony time and again.
Juan is going to use everything he wants and can in his closing.
Be damned the time.
By the time Nurmi the talking turtle gets up tomorrow, the whole courtroom will be mentally checked out. (I hope)
Deliberation time?..my guess is under 3 days.
I am disgusted when my husband plays 18 holes of golf on Saturday and sometimes Sunday. He needs to spend more time with me. I would be so mad and sad if he only saw me every 4th night. There is a big difference in being a mother with too many kids and an empty-nester. I would always be mad either way. I think Janelle is the strong and independent one. Her kids are obviously thriving. I think she likes her breaks from him.
ReplyDeleteEvery 3rd night is different than every 4th. I assume Meri is after Robyn now. Those busy moms with 6 kids must of been happy just to sleep. A newlywed would be different. Wonder if Kody is still Meri's lover?
I couldn't handle only seeing my husband every fourth night, especially with kids. These women are crazy to sign up for this. Going from every third night to every fourth night must have been huge too, it is sometimes only once a week instead of twice every week. That has been a huge source of unhappiness and resentment between them imo. If they ever get a fifth wife, I see a wife or two leaving.
DeleteI wouldn't be surprised if sometime after the show is over, if one of the wives go back to Utah to be close to family and friends again. They have both been so vocal about not liking Las Vegas as much. We all know that would make Robyn so happy because she'd get an extra night with Kody. We all know there is no way she is ever leaving her man until the money is totally gone.
Thanks, CJ. We're finishing up the packing tonight, ready to leave home tomorrow. I'm sad that the verdict will come in while we're cruising, but I've signed up for twitter just to keep up on what happens.
ReplyDeleteAs an Arizonan, I am SO PROUD of Juan Martinez. Not one note in front of him, but he hammered on and on about the lies and the indications of premeditation. We expect Nurmi ("Wormy") to get up and talk about sex. In his private practice, he specializes in helping sex offenders and pedophiles get through the legal system, so he only knows about sex. Goodness knows, there was plenty of it in this trial, but I always felt like I needed a shower after he got done talking to witnesses about Travis and/or Jodi's sex lives.
Dear AZ,
DeleteAdding my wishes to you for a wonderful trip !!!
You Arizonans should be VERY proud of Juan Marinez. My husband commented tonight how unbelievable it was that Juan did that entire hours long closing without any notes or prompts.
Amazing !!! And a true testimony to his skill and to his dedication !!!
And yeah, Nurmi has a major "ick" vibe, both from his demeanor and his chosen speciality.
I just looked on facebook at My Sisterwifes Closet... no new merchandise and their last post was in March offering some 10% off or something. Instead of listening to the demand of fans they never got it and continued to make stuff that you can get for $15 on amazoo. What happened to needing to EARN a living? I so wanted to buy something but I believe they can not put sister wives on anything because they dont own it. Again, fans would have bought $20 items like crazy if they were more geared towards their shows theme and their life theme. Strong women? Really? I guess Stupid and Strong both start with an S right?
ReplyDeleteI thought Robyn's blog post was so pathetic.
ReplyDelete#1 Because she can't even come up with her own original idea to blog about. She just copies off of Janelles blog and talks about the same thing!
#2 The blog was all "don't hate me because I am beautiful!" She is so weird.
Her food aversion sounds like an eating disorder. She has convinced her mind that food is the enemy.
Instead of ripping off Janelle she could have written about how its going creating a blended family with Kody. That would have been an original struggle just to her (of the sister wives) and there are so many blended families these days I am sure many "fans" could relate.
It sounded like she has an eating disorder to me as well from what she wrote. And I know she had a baby, but she was rather chunky last season herself, so we know she isn't always so skinny. She probably feels pressure to remain the "thin" wife out of the bunch now or Kody won't pay as much attention to her.
DeleteIt really irritates me that she is trying to steal Janelle's thunder.
Robyn needs to call it for what it is. She has an eating disorder. She also needs therapy. Yet another example of the Browns lies = trying to claim that the legal investigation in Utah had her so stressed she couldn't eat. Please!
DeleteI agree, Gwen. Her food issue, to me, almost read as if she is "above" eating. As if eating is something we commoners/mortals do--but she is goodness and light and doesn't have time for mundane things, like eating.
DeleteI also agree with you that if she wrote about blended families, she could really be relevant for many readers. Step-parents who are struggling with their place in the family home, could relate. I think she really has a problem understanding how she comes across. She imagines herself to be soooo sweet and likeable...yet, she comes across in a very different manner.
But you see if she wrote about step parents, she wouldn't be able to focus completely on herself as she would need to talk about the children, the husband and the sisterwives involved. No way she's going to allow the center of focus to move away from her. And I think she does have an eating disorder.
DeleteI had a friend kind of like Robyn. She used to tell me she understood my weight issues because she was "skinny but fat." But she was really skinny in reality. And when I finally did get in shape, she got in some kind of weird competition with me to still be in better shape than me. She had to be better than me and even though she was a nice person, it got me thinking that she wasn't so nice. She was narcissistic and self-centered. She had to be the best. Robyn really has no insight at all into any of actions. Competing with Janelle for attention, even in a blog, is part of her culture and a reflection of that jealousy it breeds.
ReplyDeleteReally good insight "hopeful", I think that you would only recognize this sort of behaviour if you have experienced it yourself. I certainly didn't think about that, but I do think you are correct.
DeleteSounds like a great friend. People like that are so annoying. I think Robyn is the epitome of someone who will always try to passively-aggressively compete with you. The sad thing is, she will never be Kody's number one, that Meri's job. She is just Kody's new playtoy, and from what we saw last season Kody is increasingly getting irritated with her. Since her attempt at Sister Wive's Closet has flopped, I don't see how she is helping the family financially. Also, she is getting older and it is becoming less likely that she is going to give Kody 6 kids like Janelle and Christine (I don't think he really counts the step-kids as his no matter what he says).
DeleteAnd that is why we have the word "frenemy".
DeleteOMG! Exactly, she was my "frenemy," which is what Robyn is to her sister wives lol
DeleteI've known people like that too...encouraging and motivating through one's actions/changes is one thing, but making it "I WANT TO BE BETTER THAN YOU" is just toxic. And to think they're doing this for Kody's attention. ugh gag me!
DeleteSo I just checked the "Sisterwife's Closet" thingy on Facebook....last thing posted was a picture of Meri with a code to order the necklace...the code was a MARCH code. Isn't this a business, wouldn't you not be checking in on it and EVEN to just say hello and thank your fans for their purchases (oh wait...are there purchases?).
ReplyDeleteAny who...did April go by too quickly for these ladies...I think they are over it, having too much fun with the money they just made for the last 8 episodes they filmed that are not aired yet...what savings!!! I need furniture!!!!!!!
They better be holding onto their money because with the way things are looking they may not be getting another season after this one!
DeleteDoes anyone else think they have completely given up on Sisterwive's Closet now? They really could have made some money if they had some better products because they do/did have a fan base and free advertising on their tv show. A little word of advice for them even though I know they'd never listen: the next time people complain that your products are too expensive, change something. And be grateful to your customers!
Looks like the online store has seen better days. When Kody called the jewelery iconic and worth the high price I just knew the venture was going to fail. He is such a bad businessman and Robyn and Meri are no better with one excuse after another.
DeleteThe problem with the Brown's is that they only want get rich quick schemes and don't want to have to work very hard to make money. I thought when they moved to Vegas planning to open a business, that they would do just that, not expensive online jewelry, which I would not be caught dead in, or selling green goo, but a real business. They sure wasted their retirement money on nothing, and have nothing to show for it.
DeleteSo Kody just twittered he is so glad it is Friday! Wonder who he is sleeping with tonight;)
ReplyDeleteLol, I wonder, because we know he isn't tired from all that working he does during the week....
DeleteFINALLY !!!
ReplyDeleteJodie Arias's fate is in the hands of the jury.
Finally she won't be sitting and smirking/drawing/evil-eyeing/faux sniffling for the cameras. She loved the attention, loved being on display and now it is over. She needs to go back to her black, dark hole.
Did anyone one else find it bizarre when Nurmi said in his closing that 9 out of
10 days he didn't like Arias. Now granted it is likely that often a defense lawyer (public defender or private) does not like their client, but to say that in the closing statements is beyond strange. May even be a first!!
Obviously it was a strategic ploy on his part for any one of several reasons. Either to make the jury feel like he was one of them and garner votes, or to do advance PR/image control for himself for being so disgustingly skeavy throughout the trial...or to open the door for Arias to claim foul and request a retrial on grounds that her counsel did not represent her well since her own lawyer admitted on closing that he didn't like her.
A lawyer friend speculated that if the jury does bring in a Murder One verdict with DP potential, they likely won't announce it for a few days so that it can't be said that they did not give "due diligence" to the decision.
Anyone have any vibes on the decision?
I'm thinking murder one, life without parole.
Did anyone one else find it bizarre when Nurmi said in his closing that 9 out of 10 days he didn't like Arias
DeleteWhat surprised me was the way Arias grinned liked she was some kind of a celebrity on a Friars Club dais being fried by Kurt "Don Rickles" Nurmi. It was pathetic, and my opinion is Nurmi really can't stand Arias 24/7 and she's too friggin crazy not to see it!
Obviously it was a strategic ploy on his part for any one of several reasons. Either to make the jury feel like he was one of them and garner votes, or to do advance PR/image control for himself for being so disgustingly skeavy throughout the trial...or to open the door for Arias to claim foul and request a retrial on grounds that her counsel did not represent her well since her own lawyer admitted on closing that he didn't like her.
I'm thinking all three are applicable.
A lawyer friend speculated that if the jury does bring in a Murder One verdict with DP potential, they likely won't announce it for a few days so that it can't be said that they did not give "due diligence" to the decision.
Was it the Casey Anthony trial where the jury deliberated just long enough to get lunch and then after lunch announced their verdict?
Anyone have any vibes on the decision?
I'm also thinking murder one, life without parole (I think that was one of the options)
Verdict will come in after lunch.
That smile of Arias's when Nurmi said he didn't like her seem to come too quickly, too opened-mouthed, too rehearsed. I'm thinking she was informed in advance that he was going to say that.
DeleteNow the question...is there going to be yet another stall tactic by the DT even at this point. Will she be able to use that statement to her advantage? God, I hope not....!!
I do remember that about the CA trial. They brought in that verdict in record time.
is there going to be yet another stall tactic by the DT even at this point
DeleteNope, they (particularly Nurmi) are done. If she get does get the DP, there's an automatic appeal. According to some of the 'experts' (the ones not on HLN's payroll) Arias could use it during the appeal process or even a motion for mistrial (not having proper representation by an attorney I believe). Maybe that was Nurmi's gift to her so that he's off the hook having to ever represent her again. But I think for an attorney who tried to get off the case 3 times, he did an adequate job for her.
You know, Arias must be a pretty loathsome human being if even Kurt Nurmi can't stand her, but his job was to defend her not like her, and in my opinion he did a good job planting those seeds of reasonable doubt in his closing argument.
"You know, Arias must be a pretty loathsome human being if even Kurt Nurmi can't stand her...."
DeleteYeah, no kidding!! As repulsive as he comes off, it's fair to say that he was handed a very sparse toolbox to use for her defense. Realistically, it's doubtful that any other lawyer whom the court may have assigned to her case could have done any better.
However, going with the battered woman and/or self-defense was bad enough, but the pedophile/sex abuse was hard to take.
Some of Nurmi's closing seeds just didn't work for me.
In her mother's police questioning tape, she stated that when she asked Jodie if she had anything to do with Travis's murder, Jodie's immediate answer was, "No, I was nowhere near Mesa or AZ...AND I have the gas receipts to prove it." She had carefully covered as many holes as she could to blackout any vestige of AZ in case anyone asked..even her parents.
License plate upside down?.....more about making it difficult for anyone who may have noticed that rental car coming or going or parked at Travis's house during the killing times to remember seeing or possibly noting a license number.
Could have asked family members/friend to borrow their car...or a gun.....ridiculous.
As you say....maybe that "do not like her" was Nurmi's parting gift.
I agree with you Amused and think it will be murder one life without parole. I'd be surprised if she gets the death penalty. I am so into this trial! I just want it to be over also so that she's not just soaking in the lime light which she clearly loves.
ReplyDeleteThis was posted on the State v Arias FB Site. Go to youtube and watch the last rebuttal of Jaun Martinez. Just past the 53 second mark you can see JA take her thumb and make a slicing slash across her neck. They better keep her locked up because she is dangerous. It is subtle but someone was watching her closely and picked up on it. I find that very disturbing....just shows what they said about her is true. She is just wicked and evil.
ReplyDelete"They better keep her locked up because she is dangerous."
DeleteSlept,
If the jury gets anything right *unanimously* in their deliberations....
I hope to God that it is this !!
Speaking of that, does the jury know that when she was arrested right as she was preparing to go on the run, she had a brand new 44 handgun w/ammo and two knives hidden in the car ??? I can't remember if that was introduced in testimony or not.
I don't think it was along with other evidence that was too prejudicial to her, but I think if it a fact it should be allowed. I can see evidence not being introduced if it is not a cold hard fact. The trial took so long that you forget if what you know is what you read or from the trial. It is scary to think she had already killed once and was arming herself to possibly do it again. She will go to her grave with no remorse.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe the control she had over all these men. Besides Gus, Darryl, Matt, and Travis, now I read a Paul Stearn gave her money to go to Mesa to see Travis....that is where she got the cash.
She didn't use the 44 and 2 knives to kill Travis, so why should it introduced in her murder trial? I think those items would only show she could possibly...possibly be a flight risk so no bail or a ridiculously high bail amount. I don't think she had that much control over men. She just chose nice guys who had a hard time saying no to her. Or they gave her what she wanted to get rid of her.
DeleteSo I'm reading some tweets and came across a couple of Meri's with a tweeted pic of some crafty graduation cap candies that she put together using cake pop sticks and Reese's peanut butter cups. Than I saw another tweet telling the world how she is frantically getting ready for Mariah's graduation party. It reminded me that both Mariah and Aspyn graduate this year and how we won't get to see ANY of it! The "new" season, as always will feel so badly behind with the holiday/move in episodes! I really wish they would stop tweeting stuff! If, yes, IF they get lucky with another season after this upcoming one, we will see the graduations during Thanksgiving. I know this is how a lot of reality shows work. But with everything out in the open on Twitter it gives a lot away and its quite annoying.
ReplyDeleteSeems like the Browns are damned if they do and damned if they don't as far as twitter and facebook goes. Just enjoy the ride, it won't be long before it's all over anyway.
DeleteI thought Meri's tweet about frantically getting ready for Mariah's graduation was telling of the family relationship, as Aspyn is also graduating. I guess each separate family will have graduation parties for the two grads. Sure doesn't sound like the Mc Mansions have made them one happy family after all, just four separate ones sharing one husband. We haven't heard if Mariah is going to her dream college either. My bet is it will be in Las Vegas for her after spending two million on houses. That much money would have sent all the children to college. If I remember right when Logan graduated we did not even see or hear about a party. I do wish both Mariah and Asypn congrats on their success, well done girls!
DeleteI saw that Aspyn tweeted that she wished college wasn't so expensive. Poor girl, if her parents and bonus mothers weren't idiots blowing money right and left she wouldn't have to worry about paying for college. It really irks me that these kids are a part of this show but I doubt they will ever see a penny of the money.
DeletePlus, I doubt Christine feels that going to college is important, especially because Aspyn is a girl and won't be as supportive as Janelle is with her kids.
Run Brown kids, run away to college and don't look back!
Exactly finally seeing reality! If they are the family they want everyone to THINK they are, Meri should be saying she's preparing a party for BOTH girls. There should be no distinction. I could see the Dargers making no distinction (still don't like polygamy ... Period. But at least the Dargers do it right, if that's possible).
DeleteKody really does have four separate monogamous families. Am I wrong in thinking that's not how it's done? Somebody explain that to me. It is Kody's fault too. He should've been the head and helped his original wives get it together. If you're going to do it, please do it right.
Hopefully Aspyn has stellar grades that will help her get scholarships and grants. If she can't swing a 4-year college/university, perhaps she could do two years at a community college, then transfer to a larger school.
DeleteI also hope she's able to get a job-I don't see much help coming from her parents or her "bonus moms."
Ha! I doubt it. seems one of her tweets said the only reason she wuz still in school was for grad nite. this daughter is slated to be a sisterwife soon. no college for her. Ha!
DeleteIf you Google sister wives one of the first listings is the sister wives blog. I wonder if the Browns know that this is the only thing keeping them on the radar. I hope TLC is paying the creator of this site some money. From what I read I am so disappointed with the Browns. I can’t believe how they treat their fans. The whole Wendy’s story… that’s soo rude,wait for us to finish eating and then we will let you take a picture of us. They call themselves celebrities or “public figures” as meri says. This is what they signed up for, Reality TV is scripted. Your fans are your customers. The big pay check TLC gives them really isn’t for all the “hard work” they do on camera. Getting rid of your privacy and allowing others to judge you….That’s what the money is for. It makes me sad for the children that wont have college paid for because Meri needed a wet bar. Isn’t part of being a sister wife being selfless. Why did the browns have to buy big Mcmansions any way??? Couldn’t they have just bought apartments and renovated them to fit their needs? Saved the money for college and retirement, kody used his retirement to pay for those “dream” rentals. Everyone had to find the perfect one. All the failing businesses aren’t giving them any income. They should’ve just left the business decisions to Janelle and then hung on for the ride. That’s what they did before when Janelle was working her butt off. I had such hope for the Browns in the beginning, I was excited for a Christian based family to be wholesome entertainment. I have been saddened on how they treat each other and their fans. I hope that the Browns have Secretly been reading this blog and perhaps improving themselves. No publicity is bad publicity especially when TLC isn’t advertising your next season.
ReplyDeleteI can’t believe how they treat their fans
DeleteI think there's a definite pattern: If the Browns are selling something (green koolaid, overpriced jewelry or aprons) they simply adore their fans. When the fans don't ante up any money, it's see ya later time. As in the case of their MSWC online store, they just stop communicating if they feel they aren't being "appreciated" by their fans (translation: fans only asking when the next season starts instead of buying their overpriced crapola). Nowadays, they are more interested in local Las Vegas celebs nobody has heard of outside of Vegas. Or once a year panel discussions on polygamy at UNLV that aren't televised nationally. Heck, even the Dargers have taken over representing plural families during hearings on the Browns' lawsuit in Utah.
Isn’t part of being a sister wife being selfless
All you have to do is read Robyn's or Meri's tweets to know that's a falsehood with that family group.
Why did the browns have to buy big Mcmansions any way
Kody's got a big ole head and an ego to match that takes 4 McMansions to contain! Not to mention the McMansions satisfy Kody's Big Love/Joe Darger envy. Too bad he's still lacking a legitimate j.o.b.
All the failing businesses aren’t giving them any income
MSWC could have been something if the pricing wasn't so out of reach of their core fans. I mean it's one thing to offer fans "exclusive" "iconic" jewelry. It's quite another to price gouge those fans by charging top dollar AND outrageous shipping fees! Only a Kody Brown (doing business as Robyn Sullivan) could ever think THAT business model would be successful.
No publicity is bad publicity especially when TLC isn’t advertising your next season
Ain't that a kick in the head? If I were the Browns I'd be hitting my facebook, my twitter, and every local/national venue drumming up as much publicity as I could. Even Andy Cohen mentioned he was doing another book signing junket for the paperback version of his book. Did the Browns ever do local book signings? And do they ever say anything of note, besides those cryptic quote for the day, on their twitter or facebook pages?
I am curious what the Darger family did with the money from their book and appearances on t.v.? I have a feeling they invested it much more wisely than the Brown family.
DeleteI still can't believe these idiots bought 4 mansions in Vegas when they should have added onto their house in Lehi and paid it off. Half the wives and all the kids would have been happier too.
Even though Papa Joe still skeeves me out, at least he seems to put some thought into his actions compared to Kody's impulsiveness.
Who else thinks this is their last season?
I don't think the Dargers wasted their money on trips every month to Disneyland. I think they used the money towards their children's education and pay off debts. Doesn't it seem like tlc has turned its back on them? I don't see another season out of this bunch, but wouldn't it be funny if tlc found a 3rd plural family to carry on the Sister Wives show?
DeletePersonally I think they should have bought 4 double wides and put them out in the desert somewhere cheap if they had to stay in L.V. Otherwise they should stick a double wide in the back of the Lehi house and call it a day. I don't think TLC is very interested in keeping them on, I'm surprised they even have one more season left. If they would stop trying to sell bullshit and just be truthful they could probably get more buzz and TLC would be more interested in them. No one is buying the "we are one big happy family and we all love each other" crap.
DeleteI doubt the Dargers received more than $5k max for the documentary. I'm basing this guesstimate on previous reports of other TLC reality show figures such as that the Browns made about $10k total for the first season (along with perks like the wedding reception with all the trimmings and a honeymoon in Mexico) and HBB's starting per-ep estimate of around $1500 an episode (for the whole family not per person - TLC doesn't pay out on a per-person basis usually). I also doubt they made all that much off their book. It hasn't been a huge seller, and the documentary didn't get the high ratings TLC was no doubt hoping for.
DeleteRemember - they're well known to US because we are following them. 98 percent of the planet doesn't even know who they are, and most would not care anyway...maybe they got a buck for each book sold? How many copies sold - 10k-20k maybe? That's $20k Max before taxes, book advance, and agents fees. A pittance really. However that said I'm guessing that the Dargers are pretty thrifty and frugal and aren't into the instant gratification that the Brown family is.
Does anyone know if Robyn is pregnant again?
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised, Sol is a year and half now and she has limited time to catch up to Janelle and Christine to have 6 kids. And didn't she mention before that it is harder for older women to have babies? She sure isn't a spring chicken anymore and time is a wasting!
DeleteIf Robin want's to keep Kody happy she had better keep busy having babies. If she wants to keep up with Christine and Janelle, then time is a wastin.
DeleteShe is so competive in a passive-aggressive way, I am sure she will have as many as time allows.
well technically speaking she already has four kids. (i know they biologically aren't Kody's but apparently in their religion he becomes the "real dad" when he 'married' Robyn, so they should count...besides the show had been counting them anyway as part of the family) so she "only" needs to have two more. ridiculous to think about really, because to Kody it's the quantity not the quality of time spent with the children that matters...they're totally fungible to him. he's more concerned with the head count IMO.
DeleteI don't think she will be in a big hurry to have more kids. She had the one kid and her sister had to move in to help! I remember in season 1, she was talking about having sister wives to help her raise her kids. I don't think she could handle the three she had. Plus more kids = less attention from Kody for her on their nights. Also I don't think the sister wives are jumping in to help her. Like on her wedding day when they were getting pedicures while she was struggling to get dressed and get the kids dressed for the wedding. She is probably also jealous of Meri for having the freedom to hang out with Kody without kids taking up any of the attention.
Delete@Dakota-you are correct, but with the way things are going she still needs to actually have 6, she is still at four! I can't remember how old she is, but I think she is over 35 or whereabouts. She was kind of right in a sense that it is more difficult to have babies when you're older because chances of complications go up, and fertility goes down.
DeleteI think her ultimate goal is to have 7 or 8 kids total to prove something to Janelle and Christine.
Also, I know in their religion the step-kids become Kody's, but who really thinks he still doesn't think of them as step and not his "real" kids? He seems like he would be really weird like that, and we can't forget that the kids still have a relationship with their actual dad. I bet Dayton goes to live with him eventually.
She is probably also jealous of Meri for having the freedom to hang out with Kody without kids taking up any of the attention
DeleteIn their book, Meri said that Robyn would come by with her kids in tow to "visit" Meri - even if it was Kody's night with Meri. Can you believe the gall of that woman? And then she writes that blog about the joys of being a sister wife. And in that episode that showed Kody with each wife (before Robyn had Sol) Robyn basically rushed her 3 kids upstairs so she could do the honeymoon thing with Kody, who looked like he'd rather be helping Aurora with her spelling than looking at dusty old pictures. Oh yeah, you know when the green eyed jealous monster is around whenever Robyn starts tweeting those woe is me, I miss my family tweets.
We all know Kody does not have both oars in the water when it comes to business or personal life. He has repeatedly demonstated this in their unrealistic TV debacles.
ReplyDeleteITA that the main reason that anyone knows anything about the Brown Plural Family or discusses them at all is due to this blog! BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR SWB!!! TLC does not promote the show at all. Not even a "coming soon" blip. Even the much-aligned (for being fake) Breaking Amish is coming back and got some promos from TLC. I would have to think that this next season, if it ever airs, will be the last. And yes, we will see the big move in at the holidays and that will be the series finale. I don't expect to see any more filming after this.
ReplyDeleteAnd I noticed that while Christine was tweeting to Janelle 'Happy Birthday' the other day, Meri took that same day to retweet a passive-aggressive post about 'the sun does not revolve around you' and also felt the need to tweet some old memories about Mariah which led Kody to comment about how he missed the kids being young. Way to get over your jealousies and insecurities, Meri.
If the show does come back, they seriously need to re-edit the opening lines because we all know the truth.
Just Sayin.
Carol that sounds like an awfully good prediction!
DeleteEveryone says Kody has to marry a 5th wife - I don't even think that would help. We've seen it already. We've seen 2 births, the jewelry, the workouts and now it's culminating in their Dream Cuddle Sac. Can't top that.
While I'm sure there might be occasional specials and articles on them from time to time, I think they're done as a weekly thing. Or at least they will be soon.
Thanks for posting their clip from today. I saw that weird tweet from Janelle's friend/manager and I didn't think I would be able to watch it since I don't live in Las Vegas. It was still the same BS as usual but still fun to watch!
ReplyDeleteOk, I watched the clip and well...hmmm...they say they will be back in the summer and to check with TLC for the dates. The summer is like the deadest season in all of television. This is not a top time slot.
ReplyDeleteKody said he wanted to be involved in the MSWC so he designed a piece of jewelry for each of his wives. They are definitely going to make an episode on this....and I would say a lot of analysis can be done by SWB contributors as to what each 'symbol' really means to Kody. I could not see them closely enough to see what he designed but I'm sure his manly mind processes were iconic.
Isn't HBB coming back in the summer? If so,TLC's got its one two punch to win the ratings war. HBB will have the hour slot before SW and be it's lead in. TLC is probaly hoping all the HBB fans stay tuned for SW.
DeleteI just checked the Honey BooBOO official TLC fanpage and there's a link posted to Perez Hilton's website that says TLC announced the show is returning July 17, 2013. So...now that Sister Wives has missed Mother's Day, maybe they will make Father's Day instead in June?
DeleteFor those interested about Honey BooBOO here's the perezhilton link:
Here Comes MORE Honey Boo Boo Episodes!!! In July!!!
If they announced HBB why not SW? Not expecting it to be any thing but boring, the same old Christmas, moving into the houses, and a show advertising their expensive costume jewelry that no will buy. Sounds borring to me. If I am right I don't see them surviving another season.
DeleteYou're right. I just read today that HBB comes back in July. Can't wait too see Mama June and Sugar Bears wedding with her three tiered camo wedding dress :-) haha!! Anyways, I can't remember when HBB came on. I think Sundays. So maybe Sister Wives will be back in Aug/Sept? Who knows. That's pretty late though. Especially since they always have a season in November with their Summer episodes. I just doubt TLC will put the two on back to back.
ReplyDelete>>Can't wait too see Mama June and Sugar Bears wedding with her three tiered camo wedding dress :-)>>
DeleteIs THAT what that was? =8-o I saw a flash of it this morning, but couldn't tell just what the heck she was wearing. It was... something...
YES!! :-) they are both decked out in FULL camo! Not even partially white with a few hints of camo to reflect her personality. The entire dress is camo with, I believe an orange satchel around her. Same with sugar bears tux. I think I read that the older girls are in orange and I saw another picture of HBB herself wearing a long orange and pink glitz pageant dress as she was the flower girl. Oh, and mama June's flower bouquet is made up of tie dyed roses.
DeleteJune is being awfully cagey about if they got married. Given her stated position on marrying, my bet is it was a commitment ceremony.
Delete@lauralee I agree with you. She keeps the telling the reporters that everyone will have to tune in to find out. That seems like a give away that its a commitment ceremony only. But you never know considering Sugar Bears health issues and being in & out of the hospital, maybe she changed her tune. Although, I've been wondering, if it is a commitment ceremony, if it was just for the show. Ughhhh these reality shows!
DeleteThis just in from their facebook jooerly page:
ReplyDeleteMy Sisterwife's Closet is so excited to announce that Kody is now designing! He has finished 4 unique pieces, one for each of his wives as a gift for Mother's Day. We will have them on the website very soon! We also have a few other new pieces as well! Keep checking back at www.mysisterwifescloset.com. We will make an announcement here as well when they are ready to be ordered.
Of course I looked it up and nothing new on their really tired barely put together web page. Who knew the King Kode could doodle? Cant wait to see what he made his mistresses. Let me guess though.
Meri: Ball and chain ring (No explanation needed)
Janelle: Economy ring thin band(Because she is always thinking about their finate resources.
Christine: Pacifier ring (just keep her happy)
Robyn: Crystal ball ring (cause its just reary sparkly
Of course all will be made out of sterling silver, out of stock and ICONIC.
Tips to the sisterwives as I recognize you likely have posted here annoymously
GIVE FREE SHIPPING. Even if you include the price of the shipping into the item it sounds better. For example if shipping is 5.95 and the product is 40. just advertise it as 45.95 with free shipping! Gimmick that works!
Whew I earned my glass of iced tea with all that there thinking.
The wives were wearing their "iconic" Kody designed jewelry for the interview today (see the 2nd video). Only problem was the control room that couldn't get their act together between the taped crap and the live crap the sister wives were wearing. Robyn showed her piece, then introduced Meri, and Janelle. Poor Christine had her "iconic" Kody designed charm ready for the camera, but Robyn neglected to announce her and the segment ended before we could see it. Come to think of it, I couldn't see the other wives charms either. My guess, is that each wife's iconic Kody charm will set the buyer back at least $150.00. The bracelet about $200.00.
DeleteMother's day is May 12th, only 6 days away and none of that crap is on the website yet. So when do the brainiacs think those pieces should have been available for purchase in time for delivery by Mother's Day? What a major major fail on their part! And No Kody, you can't price gouge just because you only allowed a couple of days lead time before Mother's Day. People will take their business (and credit cards) ELSEWHERE!!
That was hysterical Mrs. Precious Wife! So true. I never buy sterling silver anything as it tarnishes quickly. But the idea of Kody designing jewelry is funny!
DeleteI just picture Kody's creation for his wives as being mere numeric symbols i.e. 1,2,3,4. Easy labeling, no muss no fuss. Done.
DeleteIf anyone is interested and gets HBO has a new news program called VICE and they did a segment on young FLDS boys who have been thrown out of their homes. It re-airs Tues and Thurs at 11pm.
ReplyDeleteIn the first video, as usual, Kody's shirt looks like he just rolled out of bed.
ReplyDeleteQuestion....do any of the McMansions have an iron??
Or at least a dryer with a "wrinkle shield" setting???
He looks a mess.
Not a hip, surfer-dude, anymore....
Just a balding, rumpled mess.
And they need to get a better PR person. That tweet about them appearing on the Fox5 was sent only 45 minutes before the show began.
DeleteWould it have hurt for him to look more presentable? And he needs to do something with that head...I say go bald, and get a stylist while they still have the means to do so!!
He has shoes at each house, but maybe he needs a brush at each house, too? :-|
Deletehe's afraid to brush his hair I bet - thinking he will pull out some of his precious, dwindling follicles...
DeleteI think Janelle looked like she'd lost weight and poor Christine needed to lose that denim jacket! And Kody, I agree with you CJ and Amused - rumpled shirt, funky nasty looking hair *yeeeeech*
ReplyDeleteAs for the great Kody designed joolery - I can't wait to see it on their website. Want to bet there's a high price for it since Kody (BTW I have 4 wives) designed it?
I think TLC needs to tell them to get a stylist before they show up on TV!
What really floored me was the fact that although it was a charity, the real reason for the spot was to promote a new one-armed bandit or whatever they call gaming/gambling jackpot machines nowadays. One would think that the non-drinking (when not on vacation that is) modest is hottest Brown fam would stay away from the sin of gambling...(yup I do realize that a main storyline of Big Love was Bill's procurement of a gaming company...but Bill and fam didn't actually PLAY the machines - except for Nicki that is - it was just them bleeding the beast).
DeleteNot saying they're purposely following BL canon, but one has to wonder if Kody gambles a bit - he wouldn't even have to go to a casino, there are one-armed bandits everywhere in LV.
Did anyone already say or notice that the advertisement leading to the first video was for hair restoration?
ReplyDeleteI think the ads change at random - the one I saw was for a company that takes care of traffic tickets or something like that.
Deletesomething else I noticed in the video (the first one) is that the interviewer asked Kody about "TLC get-togethers" and also I think brought up Sugar Bear from Honey Boo Boo - was it just me or did Kody look uncomfortable when saying that they have never met any other TLC reality families/participants (actually not strictly true, since the Dargers do know the Browns...but they knew them before the show came on the scene of course). Maybe he was uncomfortable because he knows that HBB is eating their lunch as far as ratings go now. (although we will see in the upcoming season...my thought is that the novelty of HBB will run its course fairly quickly as interest wanes due to over-saturation...but who knows)
ReplyDeleteI think Kody looked "uncomfortable" because the interviewer knew more about HBB (mentioning Sugar Bear, Mama June) and kept talking about that show. And in the 2nd video, when Kody had to look at Janelle to answer the question what day and time Sister Wives was on, and then Janelle didn't have the answer?!? Like really, Kody, you don't know when your own show will be on? He looked like an idiot. It became painfully obvious this was not a TLC sanctioned publicity spot.They were there to hype their cheap looking jewelry...and still didn't get it right since the new crap wasn't even on the website yet (and presumably won't be available in time for Mother's Day). It was a fluff piece and rather embarrassing for the Browns - from the cheap looking green room set to the questionable action of Kody playing the electronic slot machine. Vegas has done Kody no favors (nor has it made him smarter).
DeleteI think they need to hire the Slap Chop ("You're gonna love my nuts!") guy to sell their jewelry, maybe if they include a free ShamWow...?
DeleteMy humble opinion, I've wondered if TLC is being conservative when it comes to
ReplyDeleteSW programming, perks etc. Feel that they have learned a lesson from the Gosselin
folks. Initially, watched SW to study their home life etc. Now that they each
have their own McMansion they are no different that the rest of us.
I personally have lost interest in them, also could not get involved with HBB.
Maybe we have all run our course and it's time to move on!
Something tells me the Sister Wives train has not left the train station for the last time yet, so until it does crash and burn SWB will be there to report and discuss that train crash long after the other sites have gone on to the next hot topic. Don't forget, there's the Browns Utah lawsuit, and I'm sure Kody will keep his huge noggin in the public's eye as long as he can. I see him as a greeter at Circus Circus, don't you?
DeleteThe lawsuit has never been part of the show though. I'm guessing that TLC wants to steer clear of legal matters...also not part of the show is the whole MLM/LIV thing except for references to Kody's "company car". I actually think that would make for interesting TV since 99 percent of people involved with MLM fail to make any sort of profit, but it would be evil fun to see one of the Browns' recruiting sessions - oops I mean "party" the way a previous commenter stated a month or so ago - with the poor souls already signed up under the Browns trying to sell their green goo to the newbies who came to meet the family. LOL
DeleteReally need to get a thumbs up button!!! Totally agree with you CJ and am glad you will be here to report the train crash!! :)
DeleteJust out of curiosity, to get the real definition of McMansion, I Wikipedia'd it. Highly amusing read, when you think about the Browns' cuddle sac...for example:
ReplyDelete"McMansions often mix a bewildering variety of architectural styles and elements, combining quoins, steeply sloped roofs, multiple roof lines, complicated massing and pronounced dormers, all producing what some consider an unpleasant jumbled appearance.
The builder may have attempted to achieve expensive effects with cheap materials, skimped on details, or hidden defects with cladding:
'Though construction quality may be subpar and materials shoddy (from faux stucco to styrofoam crown molding and travertine compounded from epoxied marble dust), McMansion buyers are eager; the real-estate writer locates them in the generation of my angst-ridden Boston University students: "mostly young, mobile, career-oriented, high-salaried 30- and 40-something individuals" who are too time-squeezed to hire an architect but seek "a luxury home" that they might soon (and easily) sell whenever "it's time to move on."'
Another unflattering observation is that some McMansions have been designed from the inside out, rather than from the outside in. Because priority has been given to the interior, a house's exterior appearance suffers, with oddly placed windows and an amorphous or bloated quality."
Too funny because it's true in the case of the Browns. all of it. Cheaply built, with no discernable architectural style whatsoever...
The jury deliberation watch still going on for the Arias verdict and the chatter on some blogs is becoming one of "worry" for the prosecution's case if the jury's deliberation continues.
ReplyDeleteI still believe that this jury will bring in a murder one decision. The fact that they are now entering day three may be more about the fact that they are striving to cover all bases to avoid claims of ineffective, insufficient deliberation.
I could be wrong, and if so..then so be it
(Scott Peterson's jury deliberated for *seven* days....and brought in a guilty verdict)
I agree with you. I'd rather have the jury take their time and make an informed decision, rather than to hurry through it (like the OJ case).
DeleteBut what is really bugging me is the HLN coverage is soooooo awful. I keep expecting to see Madame Defarge knitting in HLNs mock jury box! It has become such a circus, with the commentators making jokes and laughing...it's just ridiculous. But I still have it on because 1)nothing else is on and 2) if the jury comes back with a guilty 1st degree pre meditated, I want to see Arias face. Hopefully, HLN will create a montage of her face while the she says "No jury will ever convict me" plays over and over.
"I keep expecting to see Madame Defarge knitting in HLNs mock jury box!"
DeleteOh God, you are so right on that !!
Yeah, me too..I'm watching the lunacy on HLN because having come this far in the case, knowing how HLN will maximize to the hilt "Jodi" and all the BS she pulled since her arrest, is worth the aggravation of the loudmouths on HLN.
Love the image of Jodi Arias sitting down in the underground bowels of the courthouse, waiting for the verdict....without her trusty golf pencils for comfort.
BUT did you hear the guy from county saying the jail won't provide her with supplies to draw but HER ATTORNEY CAN BRING IT IN FOR HER...and Wilmott made an appearance at the courthouse today...so I'm guessing she'll be drawing until she's finally convicted.
DeleteDamn....there always seems to an angle, a twisting of the process/routine for her...always concessions !!
DeleteReally maddening !!
Does anybody else see her artwork going the way of John Wayne Gaycee's prison art? For a certain percentage of the population owning a piece of a serial killer/notorious killer is a macabre thrill, and they will pay a pretty penny for the one of a kind creations from a twisted mind. I'm not sure who benefits financially, but it should go to the victim's families imo.
DeleteAt least John Wayne Gacy's art was original. All Jodi did was trace copyrighted magazine ad photos (one featuring Natalie Portman) and call it her own.
DeleteRachel Brown from Fox5 tweeted a group pic of them & the Browns from this mornings show to Janelle. Robyn is standing next to Kody & it appears that Kody has his right hand around Robyns waist. Hmmmmm??? I just wonder how that's gonna go over w/ the wives? I thought pda "wasn't allowed" esp in a group pic?
ReplyDeleteAlso, I thought it was funny when they asked about jealousy. Of course Robyn answered & said yea we deal w/ it b/cuz it makes us better, but then we just all get over it! Bwahahahaha....Seriously Robyn?? What a crock of doo doo! If that was really the case, then Meri wouldn't be passive aggressively tweeting about forgiveness, etc...
Anyone see the little clip TLC has on their website with the youngest Brown kids saying why they love their moms? It was cute, but it still rubs me the wrong way that Robyn's kids call Kody daddy even though their own dad is still in their lives.
ReplyDeleteStill no mention of a starting date for the show either. Did someone in the Brown camp piss someone off at TLC or what?
So ridiculous and such poor business decisions. The Browns need to get with it. They are honestly going to try to sell “mother’s day” jewelry after the fact. I don’t understand why they are selling Kody’s designs any way. Isn’t it a personal gift to his wives they each get their own fugly sentimental tarnishing piece of crap. Now the sister wives are going to be sharing their husbands “creations” with creepy uber fans? They are going to let other women wear kody’s designs? I wouldn’t want to share a custom piece from my husband with other women, it undermines the whole sentiment. Whose idea was that? Was it really the brainchild of the jealous sister wives? Oh Robyn why did you have to get Kody tied around your finger like a Claddagh ring? You really should’ve let Janelle open the fundamental fitness gym.
ReplyDelete"They are going to let other women wear kody’s designs? I wouldn’t want to share a custom piece from my husband with other women, it undermines the whole sentiment."
DeleteThat about sums up the concept of sister wives though, doesn't it? Why would they fuss about sharing his lovingly doodled necklace with the ten people who will buy it when they are already sharing his body with three other women? (gag)
At least the necklace sharing won't spread cold sores... ;p
And, as always, if they happen to sell one of their very special gifts from their husband/lover it will help them deal with the very normal human emotion of jealousy, and that's like, a good thing, right? (groan)
Yup! Four wives. Mean one, smart one, fun one and dumb one in that order.
DeleteBrowns just posted on Facebook that they are going to have the jewelry made overseas (China) and it will not be sterling silver so it will be cheaper to make and ship. Just what we need in America, more lead based junk jewelry.
DeleteThey got a ton of online flack about making the stuff overseas, so they just posted that they made a mistake in typing out the announcement and they are really having it made in the USA. If you read the first post there is no way they made a typo, they are so obviously changing their tune because of the backlash.
DeleteMaybe the most kind of necklaces sold shows which sister wive is the public favorite. Sorry Christine,I think Janelle might win
ReplyDeleteWere we to have that competition on here, would Janelle win? J is my favorite but I think we have a number of C fans on here as well.
DeleteOf all the wives, Christine is my favorite. I think she is the most genuine, for whatever that is worth.
DeleteI think the biggest landslide winner would be the least favorite wife. Mine is Meri, without hesitation.
""They are going to let other women wear kody’s designs? I wouldn't want to share a custom piece from my husband with other women, it undermines the whole sentiment."
ReplyDeleteMore to the point, WHO would be willing to buy *and wear* a Kody original, anyway !?!?
Seriously, are there women out there who find him "a keeper" at this point, and would want to "wear him"? Really ???
He doesn't work, he speaks like he is in junior-high, he looks careless and unkempt, his parenting skills are clearly lacking, he loves attention like an addict seeking a high and continues to use his collection of "wives" and children as collateral to *market himself.*
Why would anyone want to "wear" his attempt to get even more attention..????
ARIAS VERDICT IN! Will be announced 1:30 Phoenix time
ReplyDeleteYEP THE VERDICT IS IN!!
DeleteWaiting....waiting....
ReplyDeleteOMG will SOMEBODY get Nancy Grace off the TV?
DeleteWatching Nancy Grace is self-punishment !!
ReplyDeleteBetween her and Jane and Jean....HLN needs to revamp their lineup. Yikes !!!
Just woke up from working nights at a mental hospital to see on my facebook page that Meri posted about the need for cheap jooerly for their crowd of sincere fans however poor they might be. So, my poor butt was just thinking. I do not buy junk jewelery. I buy sterling silver and gold but expect it to be priced accordingly to value. It has to have some appeal that makes it special that I would want to wear it. I do not own a single piece of plated or gold tone jewelery. I thought about buying their stuff when it came out but nothing stood out to me. I almost bought a ring set but the shipping at the time was 17.95 when airfare to Nevada for me is 75. I could have gone on vacation and picked it up while I was there.... if it was offered anywhere that is.
ReplyDeleteNope, not one thing will be out in time for moms day. If it was they would have to get out of bed and stumble over to the computer and take the order off, slam it into an envelope and make it to the postal carrier. So, in a couple weeks still would not receive it.
CJ can you put a poll on here that computes votes for favorite wife? Truthfully most people on here are SW fans or they would not continue to follow. Just would be fun to know official voting results. I do believe however the ladies and their daughters would vote anonymously so it would not be fair likely. I am sure they have posted on here. There is one post in particular that I can not believe others did not catch that I am sure one of the ladies... my favorite made. :)
As far as Kodys future income potential... I think they have some things in the works. They are in Vegas after all. I am sure Circus could give them the spotlight where he could limp around and snap the whip at his 4 adoring cougar wives. LOL.... I know bad taste.
Yeah I saw that too. Because they listen to their fans all the time on MSWC they will have a new line more budget friendly...or something like that :-)
DeleteWhen they announced that in order to go cheap they must order from overseas, they ended up with a lot of backlash. Since that post, they have currently posted like two more with "corrections". Saying that their cheap crap will now be made in the USA to compensate for it being tin instead of sterling silver. I guess that's supposed to make it better! Haha! Whatever. Cheap is cheap no matter what. What's funnier is that they claim it was the manufacturer that watches their page non-stop and made the decision to nix the overseas idea.
Seriously! These people make me laugh all the time! Never a dull moment, I swear.
Oh, and as far as polling goes, I think I've become more of a fan of SWB than the Browns anymore. But in all honesty, I DO plan to watch the new season! If I had to pick a favorite wife than hands down it would be Christine. She's the fun one for sure! So long as she didn't try to shove her beliefs down my throat, I could tolerate her as my neighbor. I think If she had some REAL girlfriends to hang with, I could see her secretly throwing back some margaritas on her "off" night while having a good laugh at her SW after the kids have gone to bed. She seems like the only one in that family that could be the "cool" mom. Kinda like the "cool" aunt most people can relate too.
Mrs. PW - count me as one of the folks here who isn't a fan of SW but is DEFINITELY a fan of SWB. I only follow the Browns/the show to enhance my enjoyment of CJ's posts.
ReplyDeleteYes CJ's post are pure enjoyment!!
DeleteI agree with you Dakota. Not a fan of SW but yes to being a bona fide fan club member of SWB. Will have to find a new hobby when this blog is put to bed because those insipid SW are off the air and out of sight for good. Will not miss the SW but will miss the "company" here. Well done SWB.
ReplyDeleteI'm not going to be so pessimistic because I know that the Brown family aren't the only sisterwives in the world. There's Troy Bowles and K dee Ignatin and others who have contributed here making all of us aware of what is going on with the AUB and FLDS. SWB will live on!
DeleteAnd not only that - thanks to the Internet, even after the show is axed, there's no way Kody will let himself fade into the firmament. Like Kate Gosselin, he will do whatever he can to stay in the public eye.
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ReplyDeleteMy Sisterwife's Closet Facebook page announced today:
For all those who are asking...a new season of Sisterwives be airing this summer. As soon as we know the exact date we will post it here or please keep watching TLC for details.
Vague, as usual!
They need to get their timing right. It was too close to st. Patricks day when the necklace came out, too close to Valentines and now too close to mothers day with no merchandise to order and get back in time. I have had a ebaay store and if your going to use a gimmick use one that is believable. The are always promising something before they can produce it. I then wait and wait and wait.... until I dont want it by the time it is out.
DeleteWhy is Christine always slighted? On that little clip they barely glanced at her. It was Robyn on his left and Meri on his right, then Janelle, then Ms. Christine. She is the lovliest of them all next to Janelle. I wonder at times if he has or she has thrown in the towel and now they just pretend for the cameras. Good for her if she has. If she hasnt I sure wish Kody would be nice to her. Poor girl her heart is so sweet and I am sure he has put a thousand arrows through it.
None of them strike me as particularly "lovely".
DeleteAll I can say is...when a news segment is less than 2 minutes long and there are 5 people to interview, a charity and new slot machine to promote, and two of those 5 are among the biggest attention ho's in LV...someone's bound to get slighted.
Huh!! So they were gonna have their jewelry made in china because silver is soooo expensive? Please.
ReplyDeleteCurrent price of silver: $23.82 an ounce. And that's for PURE silver, which sterling is not. I highly doubt there's anywhere near an ounce of silver in their crappy ass jewelry.
And WTG on announcing it to America that you want to have it made overseas. Yup that's great publicity...
Apparently after they said they were going to order it overseas they deleted that and made a new one that said it would be "Made in USA"
Delete"Correction to the last post! We have a lot of exciting things going on here at MSWC! We have been listening to our customers and have created a new line of jewelry that will be more budget friendly. In order to do this the new line will not be sterling silver but it will still be made in the USA. In the next few months we will be making this line available to gift stores to sell as well. As soon as we can we will have it on the website. Keep watching for updates here or on twitter. Happy Thursday!"
Silly Brown Clowns..now selling jewelry that will turn your skin green!
Obviously, I'm going to have to step in and help the Kodouche design some iconic pendants for Mother's Day...MS & CJ, check your email for pictures! :)
ReplyDeleteThought of a new money maker for the Browns!!! Hope they are reading!
ReplyDeleteAny who....howabouta "Sister Wives Slot Machine"!!!! Perfect!
Don't know if you all have played penny machines with the Bonus Games on them...this could go in a million different directions.
The reels could have Kody (and his wild hair) be of course "The Wild" symbol, each of the wives, any of the adult kids, pastries, a wet bar, joolery, cool sunglasses, flat tires ...you know what I mean BUT the bonus games could be real fun....all four houses, pick which one Kody will go into for extra $$$ or pick which police car is going to go down your street for Bonus spins!!!
My mind is just bursting with different ideas!!! :)
You think this would be hypocritical of them...hmmmmm, hey if the public wants it!!
That video for the Charity was really painful to watch. I'd like that 2-1/2 minutes of my life back. Kody, have you ever heard the expression that I'd rather people think that I'm not too smart than open my mouth and erase all doubt? Because almost every time you open your mouth, you definitely erase all doubt!
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