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Saturday, July 21, 2012

thestar.com : Meet the modern Americans who still have faith in polygamy

By Ward, Olivia
Foreign Affairs Reporter

SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH—The dusty prairie morning chokes in the midday heat, but inside her spacious kitchen Lucy is crisp and in control, the captain of all she surveys.

She’s a solid, handsome woman with bright blue eyes and upswept greying hair: the embodiment of good pioneering stock. Her life has been a series of trials she’s faced and triumphed over on this unforgiving land. At 57, she has earned her laurels.

But there is no rest for Lucy. There’s an active career as a consultant, and an aging husband to care for — along with five other wives and an assortment of children, the remainder of 47 who have been born, nurtured, bidden farewell and sometimes mourned during five turbulent decades.

This multi-layered house south of Salt Lake, designed by Lucy herself (“never had a lesson in architecture”), is filled with comfortable, come-lately flourishes. But the past is not a foreign country here. Its daily presence presses in on the large extended family, its weight inescapable.

Lucy and her 78-year-old husband Sam are fundamentalist Mormon polygamists — cast out by the mainstream Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), which suspended the practice of plural marriage in 1890 and insists that they have no right to call themselves Mormons.

They speak on condition of anonymity, because officially they are outlaws. But they make up only a fraction of the estimated 40,000 polygamists in the United States, many of them spread across the southwestern states of Utah, Arizona and Nevada. And most live not in fortresses bristling with guns, but uneasily blended into communities that greet them with puzzlement, don’t-ask-don’t-tell tolerance, or outright hostility.

They are perhaps the last living imprint of their Mormon ancestors, carrying the beliefs that burned within those forebears as they settled in the inhospitable pre-Utah state of Deseret: an embattled, hardscrabble society that their mainstream descendents now fervently hope to leave behind, like some wandering tribe that, embarrassingly, will not stay lost.

They are also the worst nightmare of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and others who hope that Mormonism can blend seamlessly into the American social and political landscape. The presence of polygamists is all the more dangerous because “they” and “we” are joined at the historical hip by a common ancestry.

“We’ve had harassment,” says Lucy, matter-of-factly. “It’s wherever you go. Some people are friendly, others . . . ” She gestures at the green-and-brown landscape stretching beyond the rambling suburban house, where the only shade is from the clumps of trees she planted by hand.

But the fact that this group of old believers exists in relative peace and obscurity is something of a victory, considering its adherents more than a century ago resigned themselves to the fringes of society and the Mormon faith. They rejected the mainstream church’s decision to fall in line with U.S. laws and abandon the practice of polygamy. The edict was like a silver bullet through the heart of their beliefs.

“The family, and particularly the plural family, became the foundation of the social order God desired,” historian Matthew Bowman writes of the early Mormons in his book, The Mormon People.

Polygamy began with an Abrahamic revelation from Mormon founder Joseph Smith, which declared that plural marriage was not only sanctioned by God, but “sealed by the Holy Spirit,” allowing the participants to inherit “thrones, kingdoms . . . exaltation and glory” in the afterlife. Without “celestial marriage,” or polygamy (more properly known as polygyny), the prospect of eternal salvation was dim.

It was not an easy sell in the mid-1800s. At a time when prudish Victorians were draping their “naked” piano legs with frills, followers of Smith and successor Brigham Young wrestled down their scruples and plunged into plural marriage, believing it would ensure that “Mormon societies were stable, their members committed to the health of the community, and they lacked the poor underclass that fostered crime and debauchery in the United States.”

The thousands who practise polygamy today flow from that bloodline. They include those whose families abandoned the practice but later returned to the fold, and those who fled — like Romney’s ancestors — across the Mexican or Canadian border to continue the “true faith.”

Sam, a soft-spoken shepherd of his little flock of a few dozen families, is one of the former.

“I didn’t start out as a fundamentalist,” says the slight, silver-haired man, clad in the sober black that is a uniform of the fundamentalist church faithful: a symbolic holdover from a pre-Technicolor world where revelation and reality merge.

As a teenager in a mainstream Utah LDS household in the 1950s, Sam felt there was “something missing,” as though the emptiness of the land had somehow invaded his life. He prayed. Fundamentalist leaders gave counsel. The answer came.

“There were principles that the church had done away with,” he says. “I didn’t think it was right.”

Lucy chimes in: “There was more meat in what those leaders were saying. The LDS church had the milk.”

By the time he was 20, Sam had already married a teenage bride, who soon became pregnant. His new faith embraced plural marriage. Obediently, he took a second wife.

Two decades later the Lord would intervene again in Sam’s marital affairs. And then it was, if not a coup de foudre — anathema to fundamentalists who decry sexual attraction before marriage — then a heavenly bolt from the blue. One that, felicitously, hit the unworldly and homebound 20-year-old Lucy at the same time.

“I had made up my mind that I wanted to be in a plural marriage, like my own family,” she said. “My mother had numerous children and the family was huge. I had offers of scholarships but I didn’t want to stay in school. All those pep rallies and dances and football games just seemed frivolous.”

In spite of her father’s opposition, she dropped out before her high school finals and stayed home to grapple with the demanding vocation of polygamous householding.

After “three years of praying,” she knew her husband would be the quiet, 40-year-old Sam, who taught a youth group she attended in his home, and whose wives and children she had come to know. With down-to-earth practicality, she reckoned it was better not to be the first wife of a young man with unproven husbanding skills.

When the revelation first struck Lucy, Sam was unaware of his impending union. But one day, as he saw her walk through the door of the church, looking even younger than her years, “something hit: that girl would be my wife.”

Lucy, meanwhile, was eager to begin a new life that fulfilled the doctrines of her childhood. “My mother taught me that I had made a promise, a covenant with somebody before I came to this earth. And that we would marry and have a family. We made covenants with the (unborn) children we would bring here.”

The promises — which underpin the practice of plural marriage — would be fulfilled with Sam’s and Lucy’s more than half-dozen children, adding to the swelling family ranks.

But on their wedding night in 1976, Lucy says, “we just talked all night. We didn’t have any real contact before we were married. It was the first time I could find out about him and about the household.” But she adds quickly, love was in the picture, too. “When we came to an agreement that we’d marry, I started to think, ‘Do I really love him?’ I prayed about it.”

She glances fondly at her husband. “Now, when I look back on it, I didn’t need to pray, because I fell in love with him very swiftly. My prayers were answered.”

That didn’t prevent Sam from dividing his time among five other wives. Some had been “compassionate” marriages, harking back to patriarchal biblical times when widows were rescued from loneliness and destitution by polygamous unions. “There needs to be a father figure, someone to lead the family,” says Lucy.

But, “nobody here was underage and nobody was forced,” she adds, leaning forward, as though expecting a familiar argument: “I think there’s too much made these days of people marrying young.

“Even at 15, I wanted to get married. I think it’s a modern phenomenon that people marry older now. Who’s to judge? When you look at the immorality and the unwed mothers today, isn’t it better to have people taking responsibility at young ages?”

The question hangs in the air.

It’s one of the most crucial issues under debate as polygamist families struggle for decriminalization. A struggle they have only just gained confidence to wage in public.

“We aren’t asking for plural marriage to be legalized,” says activist Anne Wilde, who spent most of her adult life in a “totally happy” polygamous union that was nevertheless carried on in secret. “We believe that as long as the people are consenting adults, and there is no underage marriage or abuse or (welfare) fraud going on, it should be treated like other kinds of unions. People recognize diversity now.”

But the struggle for acceptance is difficult. The polygamy that makes headlines is of the most lurid kind — murderous clan leaders, fake prophets, authoritarian brutality, virtual imprisonment of young women, casting out of young males who might compete for eligible females, forced marriage, genetic disease and child abuse. The five-alarm case is that of Warren Jeffs, who once played a role in British Columbia’s Bountiful colony and is serving a life sentence in Texas on child sexual assault charges.

Mainstream Mormons look on and shudder, seeing their own claim to legitimacy in American society sink with each sensational new report that links them with a practice they reject and revile.

The backlash against fundamentalists — which includes excommunication and economic exclusion — puts more fear into pluralist communities than crackdowns by the state authorities, which have abandoned sweeping raids in favour of a policy of tolerance, in the absence of serious criminal behaviour.

Bigamy and plural marriage remain illegal throughout the United States. But by supporting community groups that help troubled polygamist families, Utah and Arizona authorities have reached a working truce.

“We’re concentrating on the safety issue,” says Paul Murphy, director of communications for the Utah attorney general’s office. “We believe a lot of it is education — preventing crime, not focusing on prosecution. We try to help people under the radar.”

The daunting alternative is jailing thousands, breaking up families and putting the children under the care of the state.

Priscilla and Marlyne Hammon remember a more perilous time.

The two women, now in their 50s, have an American Gothic air: scraped back coifs, no makeup and modestly cut skirts and jackets. Their families have survived extraordinary travails in the service of a faith that was publicly ridiculed and condemned.

In 1953, when Priscilla was an infant, Arizona state authorities raided her parents’ polygamous community of Short Creek — later (confusingly) renamed Colorado City — straddling the border with Utah. It was described as the largest mass arrest of its time.

“About 100 police surrounded it at gunpoint, at 4 a.m. All the men were put into the schoolhouse and the women were taken to Phoenix. The plan was to adopt out all the children, to destroy all the records and destroy polygamy,” she says, recounting each detail as though it were yesterday.

While 100 men were briefly jailed then released on a year’s probation, the women were forced into distant parts of the state. But Arizona authorities balked at relocating their more than 250 children. The mothers and children were scattered, forced to live in “nursing homes or old sheds,” the forerunners of today’s immigration detention centres.

Within a few years they had trickled back to their husbands and communities. Predictably, there were more marriages and more children. As in other polygamous groups cast out by the Mormon church, their own priesthoods carried out the ceremonies.

Even in Utah’s increasingly cosmopolitan towns today, the fear of discovery is pervasive, and polygamous parents and children live watchfully, expecting the unexpected. The fear is palpable: of humiliation, of exclusion, of the collapse of businesses and the bullying of children in school. It is hard to pursue legal protection for plural wives and children, to obtain documents such as birth certificates and to get medical help for prenatal care and childbirth.

For some, constant subterfuge leads to a siege mentality, a sense of persecution and pariahood. For children, it can be a psychologically splitting experience, forcing them to move between two different, even opposing, worlds.

Fed up with their furtive lives, some polygamists are fighting back, urged by Wilde and her Principle Voices advocacy group, which seeks to educate the wider community on the “real facts” of contemporary plural marriage.

In the past decade, they have joined rallies and spoken out for plural marriage. The reality show Sister Wives brought polygamous daily life to American living rooms, and it gained a new gloss in the popular TV series Big Love.

Unlike the mainstream LDS church, the fundamentalists are divided among about a dozen groups and categories, ranging from gun-toting survivalists to the family next door in Salt Lake.

Nicole, a young woman in her 20s, escaped a tightly wound community that exemplified the darkest stereotypes of polygamy.

“My mother was a plural wife and I had problems with physical and sexual abuse,” she says. “I was kicked out of school in eighth grade. On my 16th birthday my father gave me a choice of two men and insisted that I marry one.”

But many other polygamists lead lives more ordinary and middle-class, if challenging.

“Our kids get teased because of our lifestyle. It’s a dynamic we just learned to ignore,” says Valerie Darger, one of three wives of businessman Joe Darger — and with her sweep of dark hair and form-fitting clothes, a glamorous poster girl for plural marriage. Last year the family published a cover-blowing book, Love Times Three, with writer Brooke Adams, to “fight the misunderstandings” that make polygamists outcasts.

Unlike some urban polygamists, whose husbands lead covert, nomadic lives among different houses, the Dargers live together under one roof, with Joe portioning his time among the three wives. “There’s Vicki’s night and Alina’s night and my night. He’s able to see all of us,” says Valerie.

Sharing began early for the Dargers. Both Vicki and Alina — cousins and rivals for Joe’s affection in high school — knew they wanted to marry the husky, blue-eyed football player with the rakish smile. His polygamous mother suggested they all join hands. After some soul-searching and an unsurprisingly awkward courtship, the trio was married in 1989.

Two decades later they became a quartet. Valerie, Vicki’s twin sister, was broke and depressed after leaving another unhappy plural marriage with her own five children. After urging from Vicki and Alina, and a rapidly igniting spark with Joe, she agreed to join the family, which already boasted about a dozen kids.

“Joe came home from work one day and suddenly I was seeing him differently,” she recalls, smiling. “I found out he saw me differently, too. It just evolved from there.”

But she admits, “everyone has to make adjustments. There are jealousies and misunderstandings.”

There’s also economics. With 24 children to care for, food bills alone can reach $700 a week. Clothing is recycled, entertainment is at home and everyone pitches in to keep the wheels of the household turning. The wives have worked at a variety of businesses and Joe must be diligent to maintain the family income.

For men, polygamy is no bargain. Those who are seeking sex can find it more easily and cheaply in an extramarital affair where the financial responsibilities are fewer and problems of numerous wives and children don’t have to be thrashed out on a daily basis.

For women, “sister wives” may ease the burden of childcare and household chores. But even in a celestial marriage, the human intrudes on the divine. A husband’s divided loyalties may be worrying, as well as emotionally taxing. With only the first, or legal, wife entitled to a man’s property if he dies or they divorce, the others must stay in his favour to avoid being cut off and destitute.

For children, too, polygamy is a tense lifestyle of secrecy from the outside world. “I found out the hard way that some people’s attitudes changed once they knew about my family,” wrote Alina Darger’s 18-year-old daughter Laura in Love Times Three. After a school chum discovered how they lived, she recalled, “the other girls ostracized me . . . I learned to change the subject whenever I was asked personal questions.”

That could change if polygamists gain legitimacy. But their struggle for decriminalization is only beginning. In the eyes of many LDS members, they cannot even call themselves fundamentalist Mormons, so estranged are they from the mainstream church.

But, says Becky Johns, a professor at Utah’s Weber State University, “those who practise it truly believe this is the way they must live to attain the highest degree of celestial paradise when they die. ‘It’s the way God wants us to live.’ A commandment, not an option.”

The ultimate challenge to the anti-polygamy laws would be a constitutional one in court. For mainstream Mormons, a victory for plural marriage would be an unwelcome blast from a past they have spent more than a century burying.

The first shot has been fired by reality stars Kody Brown and his “sister wives,” who are going up against Utah’s anti-polygamy law on the grounds that it violates freedom of association and the right to privacy in intimate relationships.

But if polygamy is decriminalized in the future, it may be because of growing liberalization of American society, accepting relationships such as gay marriage as part of the changing social scene — an ultimate irony for a fundamentalist faith firmly rooted in the hard moral soil of the 19th century.

Polygamous families will carry on regardless, cocooned in their own moral universe — one that promises a peace that passes all understanding of skeptical unbelievers.

“Would I do it all over again if I had the choice?” asks Valerie Darger. “Totally. It’s our sacredly held belief.”

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1229480--meet-the-modern-americans-who-still-have-faith-in-polygamy

Thursday, July 14, 2011

AUB at the St. George TOWN HALL meeting/Polygamy summit 5-8-08. The groups that attended want or expect the state to decriminalize polygamy.

Introductions from the AUB at the St. George TOWN HALL meeting/Polygamy summit on 5-8-08. The groups that attended want or expect the state to decriminalize polygamy.
And shock, shock, there sits Christine! Sorry, video/audio not great, but a MUST SEE.
Christine also says that her mother LEFT the AUB. Just a snippit but worth seeing. We are learning that Christine has been very vocal and political for a long time.

Wednesday, July 13, 2011

‘Sister Wives’ Fear Polygamy Prosecution in Utah - UPDATE

from Utah News, 1 minute ago: Update: The Salt Lake City press conference with the Brown family attorney has just ended. The Brown family did not attend; attorney Jonathan Turley said they were in Nevada, where they moved this year after Lehi police started an investigation.
"Now, this family is not like a lot of families in Utah, but it’s not your family. It’s their family," Turley told reporters.Turley posted online a copy of the lawsuit. (See bottom of page for highlights.) The Tribune will update this story again soon.

Earlier story:
When the polygamous Brown family steps up to challenge Utah’s bigamy law today, their first challenge may be proving that someone wants to prosecute them.
Kody Brown and his four wives came under investigation by Lehi police last year after the TLC network began airing their reality show "Sister Wives." They responded by moving to Nevada.
But nearly a year after the investigation was announced, no charges have been filed. Ironically, that may be their case’s biggest problem, said Salt Lake City civil rights attorney Brian Barnard.
"The fact that a law is on the books and maybe there might be a prosecution doesn’t necessarily give them standing to bring a legal challenge," he said. "Federal judges are loathe to weigh in on something hypothetical."
It’s something Barnard has run into before, when he represented a woman who wanted to become a second wife in 2004 — the most recent legal challenge to the polygamy ban. She sued when a clerk refused to issue a marriage license, but her claim was thrown out in federal appeals court.
For polygamy advocates who want to see the law changed, there is something of a Catch-22 at work. Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff has said he won’t prosecute plural marriages between consenting adult because his office is focused on polygamy-related crimes like underage marriage.
The handful of polygamists that have been charged in recent years, including Juab County’s Tom Green and Rodney Holm, a police officer who belongs to the sect led by Warren Jeffs, have involved underage marriage.
So Shurtleff won’t prosecute "clean" polygamy cases. (For his part, Shurtleff said the Brown lawsuit is "a little bit of a PR stunt.")
The Browns will step into this virtual stalemate. They’ve laid their lives out to the glare of reality TV, and their attorney says the police investigation didn’t turn up any evidence of child abuse or underage marriage.
In a Tuesday statement, Kody Brown said his family has struggled with stereotypes and unfair treatment due to their beliefs. But likely before they can lay out the legal case in favor of polygamy, they’re going to have to show a judge that they are truly suffering under the law.
The Browns may ask for "prospective relief," Barnard said, essentially: "Do not criminally charge me for what I do tomorrow."
But Barnard added that whatever the Brown’s do tomorrow, they’re going to be doing in Nevada, not Utah.

At a glance

The Brown lawsuit claims they are at risk of being prosecuted for bigamy and asks a federal judge to place an injunction against the law. The suit says that while they have moved to Nevada, the family “expects” to move back to Utah as well as return here to visit relatives.

The lawsuit also contends polygamous families are discriminated against because their lifestyle is criminalized but not the lifestyle of other couples who are not legally married.

The lawsuit specifies the Browns are only attacking the criminal bigamy statute.

“The Browns have formed a plural family, motivated by their sincere religious beliefs and love for one another,” the lawsuit states. “They have not, however, sought official recognition of any polygamous marriage.”
(Source: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52182460-78/family-utah-law-turley.html.csp?page=2)

Lance Allred - 400 Cousins: Growing Up In A Polygamist Commune

Meet Lance Allred, Christine’s first cousin. Actually, as the title says, one of 400. Maybe she’s #362, who knows? Lance’s father and Christine’s father are brothers. Rulon Allred was their famous grandfather. Lance’s father did not become a polygamist. However, he grew up in Pinesdale, MT amongst his polygamist family. He also became a basketball player despite the fact he has O.C.D. and is deaf, overcoming some very strong odds. He is the first legally deaf player in NBA history. My interest is what he has to say about growing up around the Allred group. In the video, he paints a very honest view of what he observed.

Excerpt of an overview by John C.://Lance Allred has a gift for anecdotes and his stories of growing up polygamous are vivid. They range from stabbings and out-of-wedlock pregnancies to his favorite uncle’s pastime of randomly shooting the neighbor kids with BBs. Every story is steeped in rural poverty, scored by Garth Brooks and featuring large breakfasts and hosts of screaming kids. Allred also describes the isolation of living polygamous in the suburbs, where your friends are primarily your family and you all live too close together.

Owen Allred is prominent in polygamous circles for advocating against underage marriage and sexual abuse. However, Lance Allred repeats accusations in this memoir that sexual abuse occurred in the Pinesdale community. While Lance wasn’t a witness or victim, he implies that he knows those who were and that, one day, his father will write a summary of his experiences in the AUB. It was accusations of sexual abuse within the group’s leading Council that led the elder Allred to renounce them. He and his wife (they had never taken another spouse) left with their family in the aftermath of those accusations. I won’t spoil the events of their escape, but they do parallel classic Mormon tropes regarding the presence of evil and divine intervention.

Lance and his family eventually turn to the church, which is interesting because Lance greatly dislikes organized religion. He cites the LDS faith as giving his sister the motivation to become a doctor and he frequently records prayers and thoughts devoted to God. Lance Allred appears as a somewhat idiosyncratic Mormon, one prone to cussing and stories of his friends’ pranks involving gay pron, but also as a clearly devout, believing Mormon. His story, for those not inclined to read about the perils of playing under Rick Majerus or on shady Turkish professional teams, will appeal most to people who want some insight into life on a polygamous compound and in Utah suburbia, along with an interesting escape narrative. For those who really enjoy basketball, there is a lot of that, too.//

 They’ve sparked my interest, have they yours? I want to hear about growing up, leaving then returning to all this. And, the remarkable young man’s ambition to play ball He’s played with many: USA Deaf Basketball team (2002), SPO Rouen Basket (2005), JL Bourg Basket (2005–2006), Sedesa Lliria (2006–2007), Idaho Stampede (2007–2009), Cleveland Cavaliers (2008), Scavolini Spar Pesaro (2009-2010), Maroussi B.C. (2010), Utah Flash (2010-11), Trotamundos de Carabobo (2011), Otago Nuggets (2011-present). In other videos, he also speaks of O.C.D. and how he deals with and speaks to children about. He’s overcome many obstacles and can be seen as a role model to children dealing with some of the same issues. 

He’s also: Christine’s first cousin and first cousin 3 times removed; Meri’s third cousin once removed; David Preston Jessop’s first cousin, you get the drift…
Comments?

(Partial of the book review courtesy of http://bycommonconsent.com/2009/11/02/longshots-lance-allreds-polygamous-roots-and-my-familys-narratives/)

Monday, July 11, 2011

Breaking News - ‘Sister Wives’ husband to challenge Utah’s polygamy law !

The family is the focus of a reality TV show, "Sister Wives," that first appeared in 2010. Law enforcement officials in the Browns’ home state, Utah, announced soon after the show began that the family was under investigation for violating the state law prohibiting polygamy.
On Wednesday, the Browns are expected to file a lawsuit to challenge the Utah law that makes polygamy illegal.
The lawsuit is not demanding that states recognize polygamous marriage. Instead, the lawsuit builds on a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Lawrence v. Texas, which struck down state sodomy laws as unconstitutional intrusions on the "intimate conduct" of consenting adults. It will ask the federal courts to tell states that they cannot punish polygamists for their own "intimate conduct" so long as they are not breaking other laws, like those regarding child abuse, incest or seeking multiple marriage licenses.
Brown has a civil marriage with only one of his wives; the rest are "sister wives," not formally wedded. The Browns are members of the Apostolic United Brethren Church, a fundamentalist offshoot of the Mormon Church, which gave up polygamy around 1890 as Utah was seeking statehood.
Making polygamous unions illegal, they argue, violates the due process and equal protection clauses of the 14th Amendment, as well as the free exercise, establishment, free speech and freedom of association clauses of the First Amendment.
"We only wish to live our private lives according to our beliefs," Brown said in a statement provided by his lead attorney, Jonathan Turley, who is a law professor at George Washington University.
The connection with Lawrence v. Texas, a case that broadened legal rights for gay people, is sensitive for those who have sought the right of same-sex marriage. Opponents of such unions often refer to polygamy as one of the all-but-inevitable outcomes of allowing same-sex marriage. In his dissenting opinion in the Lawrence case, Justice Antonin Scalia cited a threat to state laws "based on moral choices" against "bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality and obscenity."
The head of the Roman Catholic Church in New York, Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan, made a similar comparison on his blog Thursday in an essay criticizing the state’s legalization of same-sex marriage and the possible "next step," which could be "another redefinition to justify multiple partners and infidelity."
Such arguments, often referred to as the "parade of horribles," are logically flawed, said Jennifer C. Pizer, a professor at the law school at the University of California, Los Angeles, and legal director for the school’s Williams Institute, which focuses on sexual orientation law.
The questions surrounding whether same-sex couples should be allowed to marry are significantly different from those involved in criminal prosecution of multiple marriages, Pizer noted. Same-sex couples are seeking merely to participate in the existing system of family law for married couples, she said, while "you’d have to restructure the family law system in a pretty fundamental way" to recognize polygamy.
Turley called the one-thing-leads-to-another arguments "a bit of a constitutional canard," and argued that removing criminal penalties for polygamy "will take society nowhere in particular."
The Supreme Court supported the power of states to restrict polygamy in an 1879 case, Reynolds v. United States. Turley suggests that the fundamental reasoning of Reynolds, which said polygamy "fetters the people in stationary despotism," is outdated and has been swept away by cases like Lawrence.
Douglas Kmiec, a law professor at Pepperdine University in California, said today’s courts might not agree with the sweeping societal conclusions of the 19th-century courts, but noted that more attention has been paid in recent decades to the importance of internal family issues as part of the public policy sphere. Questions of child abuse and spousal domination, he said, "could figure into a judicial examination of polygamy.
"We’re more sensitive to the fact that a household can be quite repressive," he said, and so reservations about polygamy "might be even more profound."
Turley disagreed, noting that "there are many religious practices in monogamous families that many believe as obnoxious and patriarchal," and added, "The criminal code is not a license for social engineering."
 THOUGHTS?

Sunday, July 10, 2011

Fundamentalist Mormon Beliefs- Explained For Us - "Sister Wives"

A comment was added that was so eloquently put that I felt it was a MUST READ for anyone trying to decipher the Brown religion. This is what they believe, and teach their children. It's a must read, please do so. For many of us, it is also a very scary look into what the children are taught. It is not biased, it's a non partial straightforward viewpoint, so you can decide for yourselves without prejudiced what you feel about their belief system.
I knew nothing of this when I started writing this blog, I simply enjoyed the show. And I want this blog to stay impartial to a point- I'd love to hear from the Browns. You can like someone besides their belief system- however, how this affects the kids is mind boggling to me. How does it make you feel to read this?

The Browns are former members of the AUB polygamy group, a sect of fundamentalist Mormons. Christine Brown has stated that they are independent Mormon fundamentalists at this time in a You Tube video. This means that they believe in the Mormon fundamentalism, but they do not recognize the spiritual leader or prophet of any one polygamy group (such as Lamoine Jensen, the high priest and prophet of the AUB) as their spiritual leader. Kody would therefore be considered their "prophet" or spiritual leader or "priesthood holder" for his family of independent polygamists. This is the equivalent of someone being an evangelical Christian, but not belonging to a particular denomination, and holding home prayer meetings / worship services in lieu of church attendance.
In Mormon fundamentalism, the husband of a family seeks to become a polygamist with a minimum of three wives. When three wives are obtained, a man obtains the rank of High Priest Apostle. He will become a god in the afterlife, ruling over his own planet, which will be populated by his wives and children, and his wives will be perpetually pregnant in the afterlife, bringing more souls into existence to populate their husband - god's planet. In Mormon fundamentalism, a woman is not worthy to "go beyond the veil" in the afterlife and enter the presence of God. She may only enter the afterlife if her husband calls her by a secret name assigned to her at the time of her "endowment ceremony" - only when her husband calls her beyond the veil may she enter the presence of God. If a woman does not live in polygamy she may be forever damned (See Mormon Scriptural Document Doctrines and Covenants Section 132) Mormon fundamentalist women usually wear long hair because they believe that a woman will wash their husband's feet and dry them with her hair, just as Mary Magdalene did for Jesus. Mormon fundamentalists teach that Jesus was a polygamist, having multiple wives, among them Mary Magdalene, Mary, and Martha. Mormon fundamentalists are taught that they should continue to have as many children as they possibly can, to fulfill the imperative to bring holy souls out of pre-existence into life, thus activities other than child bearing and child rearing are discouraged for fundamentalist Mormon women. No matter what they say, Mormon fundamentalist women are permitted, yet discouraged from attending college. If they do enter a profession, it is usually something traditionally female, such as nursing, midwifery, or teaching. Having children and having as many children as they possibly can have is their goal as fundamentalist women. (Courtesy of Friend of Flora commenter)  

Comments? Thoughts?

Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Moving 13 Kids into Four New Homes: How the Sister Wives Cope

Robyn is Kody Brown's fourth wife. They have been married since 2010. Robyn has three children from her previous marriage: David, Aurora, and Breann. Their lives in a plural family are featured in TLC's popular program Sister Wives.
 

We just moved to Las Vegas in January and because there really isn't a "Big House" here with four apartments, our family culture is a little different these days. All the parents decided that to make sure the kids have access to each other we will be very accommodating and always give the kids permission to go to the other three houses.

At my house I have a lot of toys, dolls, movies, video games and the trampoline so the younger kids love to come over.  Janelle's house has been pool party central. Meri’s is a good place for a kid or two to go over and get special "Meri time", to have more formal family gatherings, and also a great place for the teens to gather.  Christine’s has a  shallower pool, a big driveway for riding bikes and Christine is always cooking something.  So each home has different perks and a different mom to hang out with.

We have found that the ice cream truck comes around a lot in the neighborhood. Since we can't afford it every time, I decided that I would always have popsicles and ice cream drumsticks for the kids to have whenever they want.  One of the most favorite Brown family treats is ice cream.  A common scene is Kody or Logan standing in front of an open freezer, a quart of ice cream in hand, scraping off the top with a fork.  Yea, a fork.  So I always make sure I have ice cream on hand for the ice cream lovers, as well.  My plan has paid off.  I always have frequent random visitors who know their visit will have a sweet payoff!
-Robyn
Courtesy: http://parentables.howstuffworks.com/family-matters/thirteen-kids-and-four-new-homes.html

Monday, July 4, 2011

Sister Wives - Winn Brown's Loving Family

Video no longer working. Anyone that finds the famous spokes on a wheel clip, please let me know!
We've got some time before the new Sister Wives comes on, so let's visit some of our favorite scenes from the past. 
I wish my kids had grandparents that they could go visit and be loved on by - stay and play. My folks have been gone a long time. One thing about the Browns, they are loving. There is a sense of security within the family that you are cared about. I appreciate that because I don't have that at all. We are a one unit family. I know a lot of kids that have never had a grandparent pay attention to them. Also, I happen to love the
"Spokes in the Wheel" comment. My sons friend has grandparents who are married, which makes their parents technically step siblings, and the creepy thing is they grew up as teens together. So it's not just a polygamy thing. I'm ready to go spend a few days on the ranch. I know the kids have been going up there this summer, back and forth. It's in their twitters, and they love it. What did you think about this side of the Browns? Comments?

Sunday, July 3, 2011

Sister Wives - Open Discussion on Children Following your Faith

There has been much discussion on this blog about why the Brown children must go into polygamy according to the religion of the A.U.B, to get to heaven. Meri, Christine, and Janelle have all said they don't care, as long as the kids are happy. We've seen Robyn state she wants all the kids in the faith on the previews.
So I ask - What if your child did not follow you in your faith? How would the Brown children be any different than your child or my child that did not follow the same church you you belong to?

I have a Christian Church following friend that their daughter married a Catholic and got baptized within the church and goes now to the Catholic Church. As upsetting as that was for her, do you think she shuns her daughter? Of course not. Nor do I think the Browns will.

It's something that millions of families struggle with in their lifetime. Ultimately, God tells us to love all. And we should seek the good in all, no matter what. What if your child decided upon polygamy? Would you not still love and embrace them?

To me, there's nothing worse than people that act all high and mighty with their religion. I have family members that you would think their poots didn't stink they are so religious, yet, wouldn't HELP another family member for the life of them. And, God forbid, one be in some type of trouble, they'll get shunned to the hilt. (Esp. financial) To me, that's the worst. The exact opposite of what God would want you to do.

Reviewing old videos on the subject, only one thing really caught me off guard. Am I taking it too seriously? Watch this old video from season 1 where they are talking about the children. Kody says the children "will evolve". What do you think he means by that? What would you do if your child took up a religion that your opposed to? This doesn't have to be about the Browns, it can be your own experience.
Please discuss below!


Monday, June 27, 2011

"Sister Wives" DISCUSSION TIME.......

Discussion Time!



Here we have the Browns.  They are 5 adults, who are all of age.  Robin is in her 30s at the time she chose to join this polyamorous marriage.  The other wives were in their early 20s when they decided to join the relationship.  So yeah, maybe they were young, but certainly old enough to know their own mind.  



The wives openly admit to struggling with jealousy and bitterness and anger and all those feelings that everyone wishes they could rise above.  Meri stated in the first season that working through negative feelings makes them a better person.  Polygamy is their “normal” and they try to grow and thrive just like everyone else.   



I like to think I’m a live and let live kind of person.  I don’t think I could do it, and I think a religion that dictates it is misogynistic and damaging to women.  In modern society it just seems odd to me.  Honestly, so long as there’s no abuse, and no fraud, I see nothing wrong with it.  I don't see any legal reason for there to be more than 2 people in a marriage though.  



So, to take the AUB at face value and assume that everything is love and light and no one is excommunicated and no one has children they can’t afford and no fraud is committed and no abuse is permitted and everyone is happy…then,  my curiosity is piqued.  Other than religious reasons, what are your objections to polygamists like the Browns?  (To repeat: I don’t mean the creepy, sign-14-year-old-girls-over-to- their-uncle/daddy/husbands-like-they’re-a-1987-Ford-Thunderbird type polygamists.)  I really had to think about it too.   Let's discuss!

Written by Maraschino5
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Friday, June 24, 2011

"Sister Wives" - MERI BARBER – The Sad Loss of Her Sister, Teresa Barber Kunz.

In both seasons, a teary eyed Meri mentions her sister, Teresa, who died of colon cancer at 32 in 2006. Meri brought up something that we all should think about …getting tested for Colon Cancer. It’s the third leading cause of death in America. Our family has dealt with this horrible cancer, and it pleased me to see Meri bring this tender subject up and having a colonoscopy for all to see. I’ve had one, they are not that bad. But, when you’ve lost someone to the cancer, watched their pain and suffering, it’s a different matter. It can be terrifying. After the death of her sister, Meri’s entire siblings have gotten a colonoscopy. They all had found polyps. These polyps, if taken out early, may prevent cancer. Meri had them, too. The colonoscopies they had may have saved every sibling!     

Every time she speaks of her, tears well up in her eyes. They were obviously close, loving sisters, a connection that Meri really needs right now and misses. Teresa had stage 4 cancer, and succumbed to it a short 11 months after being diagnosed.  It’s also a lesson on polygamy. Teresa was the second wife, and her loving sister wife would be raising her kids. “She loves them and they love her.” Meri tells us. Robyn and Meri both explained in different episodes that it was an unspoken rule among polygamists that a sister wife would take the kids and raise them. They see this as a comforting bonus of the lifestyle.

The thing that bothers me is the terminology. Sadly, Teresa wasn’t a wife in the eyes of the law. These women aren’t her “sisters.” Why not just call it what it is? Or come up with a better name for the different people “in the lifestyle.” Teresa was listed, as one would assume, as Teresa Barber, on the Social Security Death index.

Obituary: TERESA BARBER KUNZ
TERESA BARBER KUNZ 1973 ~ 2006; TERESA BARBER KUNZ, age 32, passed away February 6, 2006 at her home in Rocky Ridge, Utah. She was born May 2, 1973 in Alameda, California to WILLIAM JAMES BARBER, JR. and BONNIE AHLSTROM BARBER. She married JEFFERY KUNZ Feb. 24, 1996 in Bluffdale, Utah. Survived by her husband JEFF; children, JESSIKA LAUREN KUNZ, VIONA JUSTYNE KUNZ, WILLIAM JOSEPH KUNZ, and MYKENNA JOYCE KUNZ; parents, WILLIAM and BONNIE BARBER; many brothers, sisters, and extended family. Graveside services will be held at 11 a.m. Saturday, February 11, 2006 at the Rocky Ridge Cemetery, Rocky Ridge, Utah. A memorial service and luncheon will be held at the Rocky Ridge Chapel following the interment. Funeral Directors, Anderson Funeral Home, Nephi, UT. (Source: Deseret News, Thurs. 9 Feb 2006)

Monday, June 20, 2011

"Sister Wives" Why choose Plural Marriage?

Photo: Dr. Rulon Clark Allred With His Wives and Children. Rulon Clark Allred is the Grandfather of both Christine Brown, Robyn's ex-husband David Preston Jessop, and he is also Kody Brown's 2nd Cousin once removed. Yes, the tree we're working on is gonna be good! I would assume Christine's grandmother and father are in the picture.


What Makes Women Want to Share the Same Husband?

The Brown family belongs to the Apostolic United Brethren Church, a Mormon fundamentalist church that believes in plural marriage. 

Being raised in a two parent home as well as having been married to one man, compels me to ask this question. Why would women want to share the same husband? Unless you have been raised in this belief, there probably won't be any rhyme or reason to this mentality. I have never entertained the idea of my husband "making the rounds" whenever he feels the need for a different woman. I find it pretty one-sided when a man feels that he can have any amount of wives, but a woman cannot have more than one husband. I really do not want more than one and can’t imagine living this way, or what the logical or moral reason is for doing so. It is disturbing to think that one man started this belief based on "messages" he received from stone reflections and an angel who visited him.

I do understand the fact that three of these wives were raised in polygamy and yet, all of them find it totally acceptable and normal. According to an essay from an anonymous plural wife excerpt from "Voices in Harmony: Contemporary Women Celebrate Plural Marriage", these are the religious reasons for a women to participate in polygamy.

She believes it is the non-option, high law of God that brings blessing upon her and her husband.
She believes that it is essential to live in a plural marriage in this life, not just in the future life, to obtain the promised rewards for doing so.
She believes that her plural marriage is the only kind of marriage that will continue on in eternity and that God and her sister wives require the same commitment.
She believes that a monogamous marriage falls short of the promised rewards and that God has granted her legitimate priesthood authority to practice plural marriage now.
She believes plural marriage is pure and holy, and that only persons with high moral standards can live it before God.
She believes plural marriage is one of the laws of God designed to help her achieve her full potential, including her rightful status as a goddess in conjunction with her husband as a god.
She believes that plural marriage is an eternal and necessary component of the religion established by the Prophet Joseph Smith and that it exists within a framework of personal covenants with God which bind individuals and families into a covenant people. Therefore, complying with the law of plural marriage will help prepare and qualify her to assist in the perpetuation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the establishment of God's Kingdom on the earth.
She believes that the rewards for living plural marriage within the above context are immense and worth the effort.
She believes that she is entitled to divine, personal direction throughout her life, and that such guidance is necessary to learn whether she is approved of God to live plural marriage and to help her select a husband. Each of these beliefs can be said to constitute the general operating foundation for most Fundamentalist Mormon women who embrace plural marriage.

The Fundamentalist Mormons consider plural procreation as sacred, not sinful, within marriage. Mutual affection and the desire for children are the focal points of intimacy. Each marriage is regarded as a separate, private relationship. Couple's intimacy is not to be shared in any way with other wives or with anyone else is considered inappropriate.

It is believed that if they practice enough loving devotion and obedience to all other laws of God, a plural family can become consistent, adaptable and nurturing environment that promotes fulfillment, security and growth. Because of this family environment, a plural marriage provides the best platform for development, enabling a woman to become the ultimate female: a wife, a mother, a queen, a priestess, a goddess, in every sense.

As the family learns to participate with God in the salvation of all His children, the wives are no longer mere recipients of blessings, but gradually become givers of blessings. To the Fundamentalist Mormon, the attainment of this type of faith is ultimate empowerment. It is interdependent patriarchy and matriarchy; one cannot exist without the other. It is a perfect union, a perfect balance of the eternal feminine and masculine.

Fundamentalist Mormons believe that the Prophet Joseph Smith's full religious intent was to establish a covenant society with plural marriages, but the modern Mormon church does not embrace this teaching and claim that the law was divinely repealed in 1890. The Mormon Church states there is no such thing as a "Mormon Fundamentalist."


Would you want to be in a plural marriage? Would you teach your daughters that is the only way to get into heaven? What do you think?

Photo and excerpts courtesy: http://www.squidoo.com/a-closer-look-at-sister-wives

Tuesday, June 7, 2011

Christine Brown pre "Sister Wives" UPDATED

 
CHRISTINE SAYS A LIFE LIVED IN FEAR IS A LIFE HALF LIVED.. KEEP THIS IN MIND, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT "FEAR IN MY NEXT POST. THEY NOW SPEAK OUT AGAINST UNDERAGE MARRIAGES.