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Showing posts with label "AUB" Christine Brown. Show all posts
Showing posts with label "AUB" Christine Brown. Show all posts

Sunday, July 8, 2012

Sister Wives Radio Interview - Big Red 92.3 FM

TLC's Sister Wives - Kody Brown & his 4 wives talked about their family, relationships and more with Rollin & The Morning Show - Big Red 92.3 FM


It's extremely refreshing to me that Janelle clarifies the LDS/Fundamental split 100 yrs ago. She asle says that the origins of the LDS church and the AUB were the same. You go girl! She's not afraid to be clear. As we have been discussing, The believe in the many of the same same principles, Mormon Book, Joseph Smith. They no longer share the polygamy principle.  
Kody on the new wives question: "Not drawn the line in the sand" 

*Be sure and read What's Happening Now with the Houses? and discussion area below!

Thoughts?
Courtesy of Caramel Brownie, Thank you!

Sunday, June 24, 2012

1. Comment area for Leaving the Nest

As high school graduation nears, Logan finally decides on which college he will attend. Meanwhile, Kody and the wives are on the verge of fulfilling their dream of bringing the family back together. Will they finally make their dream come true?

 My favorite line from the show this year was Logan saying he could be good and bad! Yes, Logan, you are right, it's a time to find yourself, and you don't have to play their game of perfect life anymore!

Wednesday, December 14, 2011


Christine Christine

(Sung to the tune of Kiss's Christine Sixteen)

Christine (Christine), Sixteen (kids, that is)
Christine, yeah, yeah

   She's got young Izzy, She'll see it through to the end.
She's got Prozac in hand and there's no use in pretending.
Christine, Christine

Kody drove her crazy, He needs to give it some more thought.
And she's sad every night and day, there's no use in pretending.
Christine, Christine

"I don't usually say things like this to gals your age but when I saw you
coming out of the Principal Voices meeting that day I knew, I knew
You wouldn't be the last wife forever."

She was an activist, now she's quiet as a mouse
She shared a home, but now she has her own house
We came to like her, then came to doubt her;  whoo no
Christine, Christine


Christine, Christine.  I know where you have been
(to the Principal Voices meetings)
Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine.  You are not really mean.
Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine. Don't care if you're lean.
Christine, yeah, yeah
Christine, Christine.  Your kids are "Truely" keen.
Christine, yeah, yeah.


Written by: TERRASOLA!

Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Rockin Robyn!!


Rockin' Robyn

(Oh yeah!  You knew it was comin')


Twitter Twitter Tweet  Tweetly Tweet

Twitter Twitter Tweet  Tweetly Tweet

She's eating bon bons all day long

Flapping her gums and singing this song.
All the sister wives on their very own streets
Can't stand to read her Twitter tweet tweets.

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweet tweet.

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweetly tweet.
Go Rockin' Robin 'cause Kody's comin' over tonight.

All the bonus children, even Meri,
Every single member of the Brown family
The newborn baby Solomon
Must crowd around to see.
(He IS newly born, you see).

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweet tweet.

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweetly tweet.
Go Rockin' Robin 'cause you're really gonna "rock" tonight.

She's passive aggressive and very sly.

If you don't like her, she'll start to cry.
She's manipulating Meri - good at it too.
Watch your back or she'll come for you.

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweet tweet.

Rockin' Robin Twitter tweetly tweet.
Go Rockin' Robin 'cause Kody's comin' over tonight.




Written By: TERRASOLA!

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Sister Wives are NOT Witches!




Breaking news ... this just in!

The Sister Wives are ... NOT ... Witches


Recent revelations on Sister Wives have caused many viewers to call certain Sister Wives bad words (no names, but they rhyme with berry and bobbin).
So I decided to do some extensive research at the Frostbite Falls library ... well, OK, it was the 3 Readers’ Digests from 2004 at the local Barbershop that no one had stolen yet  ... on the subject of Wicca to see whether we really could call any of our favorite Sister Wives “witches”. 
I learned that the Wiccan Rede, or code, that many Wiccans follow says “Bide within the Law you must, in perfect Love and perfect Trust.  Live you must and let to live, fairly take and fairly give.”  Well, I guess it’s a big old fail on that one.  We know about the law breaking; it’s the premise of the show.  This season we’ve heard the not-so-loving commentary from Meri towards Janelle and Christine, from Janelle towards Robyn, from Christine towards chondrichthyes plagiostomi (sharks), and from Robyn towards KIDS!!! (passive-aggressively, of course).  As for trust – when I first read the Rede and thought about the SWs, the Pepsi I was drinking shot out my nose (Sorry, Atlanta).  Just read our bankruptcy postings about the fairly taking and fairly giving stuff. 
“Light of eye and soft of touch, speak you little and listen much.”  The Rede-crafters must have had Robyn in mind with the “speak you little” part.  You might want to nominate your favorite stink-eye picture for the light of eye part.
“When you have and hold a need, harken not to others greed.” Admittedly, we don’t know whether the SWs have told Kody that keeping a sports car is knuckleheaded when they haul broods the size of sports teams around in fixer-upper jalopies.  But really ladies!  Don’t let the built in competition keep you from saying what needs to be said.
“With a fool no season spend or be counted as his friend.”  Snicker, snort.  Sorry Kody, but isn’t the SW Blog all about this?
“Merry Meet and Merry Part bright the cheeks and warm the heart.”  This phrase talks about fellowship.  We were told in Season 1 that there was a lot of fellowship among the SWs.  Now, not so much.  I feel a chorus of “liar, liar, pants on fire.” Coming on.  Any one want to join in?
“Be true in love this you must do unless your love be false to you.”  Many posters are pointing out that the SWs are “true” to Kody, but the very nature of polygamy requires him to be untrue to the SWs.  Sorry gals.
“These eight words the Rede fulfill: an it harm none, do what ye will.”  This has been interpreted to mean that Wiccans / witches must think long and hard about the consequences and impacts of their actions BEFORE they act.  What a concept!  Sure wish the SWs actually subscribed to this one because they would cause a lot less mayhem, especially with their kids. 
Since I have decided that the Sister Wives aren’t witches, I guess I’ll just call them b...itches.
N.B.: Yes, I know that not all witches are Wiccans and not all Wiccans call themselves Witches ... but, as Mom always said, close enough for hand grenades.



Written by: Terrasola!

Friday, November 25, 2011

BLACK FRIDAY!

I have a feeling many of us are out shopping.... you couldn't catch me in a Black Friday crowd for nuthin'!!LOL
My friends are another story...I know one of them actually "camped out" for the big event!

We say...Have fun our shopoholic sisters.... and hopefully by tomorrow we will running in HIGH SPEED catching up on tweets and for the finale...... LOVE to all our loyal family here!
Discussion area below for Today........ ALL things Sister Wives!
And yes, I know...I liked Silver Man! Lord knows Christine needs a smile.  In fact, when you think about it.... when Christine got happy....Kody called her a shameless flirt!  Well KODY... we are glad Christine is feeling better and shame on you... I believe you are the FLIRT... AND the pig that pokes.....  I can't stand it when someone acts like they are kidding with the words... but really AREN'T!

If I had the companionship of my husband in my bed 90 days a year and somewhere else the rest....I might be a flirt too! Especially if he was out making "physical manifestations of his love for another wife" with Robyn.

I am sorry. I only meant to make a discussion post, not a rant. I guess that too little writing about this show has me......LEAKING!!!! bwahahahahahha
(wink... Cynical) 
See you!



Friday, October 28, 2011

Sister Wives Kid Swap

TLC's 'Sister Wives' gives viewers a behind-the-scenes look at a very unique American family: Kody Brown, his four wives and their now 17 kids are your typical polygamist family, but for most people, it's considered an unorthodox lifestyle.

In our exclusive sneak peek from this week's episode (Sun., Oct. 30, 9PM ET), we see a storyline that might be the show's most controversial yet. Wife Christine admits that she doesn't get along with her eight-year-old daughter Ysabel -- "I know it's ridiculous to butt heads with an eight-year-old, but we do" -- so Ysabel is packing her bags and moving in with other wife Meri.

"Christine gets disrespect from Ysabel, and it's the funniest thing ... " Kody says during one confessional, before Christine promptly corrects him. "It is not the funniest thing."

It may not be funny, but is letting an eight-year-old child move out of your house a smart parenting decision? Even if she's just moving to another part of your house with another one of your husband's wives?

"I know that Ysabel respects Meri," Christine explains. "There's a lot of things that Meri can give her that I can't."

Philosophy and Polygamy: Ins and Outs, with Troy Bowles

  I'll be the first to admit I know very little about Polygamy and Fundy Mormons. Having a brother that graduated from Cornell in Philosophy, educated parents, and too lively conversations of politics, war, and religion in the 60's when I was a wee child and everyone else in the house was an adult -- probably turned me off of all things other than my own Christan religion. Until now. Heck, I just wanted to play Battling Tops!

  To understand WHY these folks, the "Sister Wives" crew, would be into polygamy, suffer constant jealousies and oppression to women, I have been trying to read and understand the AUB, Mormon, and all that follows. I am completely and utterly disturbed by WHAT I have learned so far. Throughout these pages are documentation of what they believe and why they must be polygamists to reach heaven. Feel free to browse through the past months posts if you haven't.

  I was lucky enough to meet so many great people on this journey. Through a new friend of a friend I have "met" Troy Bowles. He was raised in the AUB-and left, and has a vast amount of knowledge and understanding of the religious sect.  I think he reminds me of my brothers style of speaking and teaching. He is easy to comprehend and very interesting. Extremely fair-he is simply looking for the truth. You can almost tell he is weighing his words-so diplomatic in his style. We first printed his piece for the Salt Lake Tribune here.  http://sisterwivesblog.blogspot.com/2011/08/polygamy-and-religious-liberty.html

Troy was recently on the show, Polygamy, What Love Is This?This is an excellent place to learn about Polygamy. I really encourage you to watch the entire clip; however, if you are only interested in their thoughts on the "Sister Wives" show- start watching about 30 minutes into it. However, if you'd like to learn about this unsettling religion, watch this entire segment, and we will be posting more to discuss together.

Episode 4.35 Doris interviews Troy Bowles, formerly of the AUB fundamentalist group, about his story and the characteristics of modern polygamist groups.


He has graciously allowed us to reprint his recent post to learn from. Let's take a look.

The Basic Problem with Polygamy      By: Troy Bowles

 If a whole culture is operating under a belief system that mandates polygamy, it's safe to say a few things in general without making irrelevent stereotypes. By itself, marriage doesn't set up a situation for human rights abuses to proliferate. Religiously-mandated polygamy does. First of all, it is always patriarchal. Polyandry exists, but it is extremely rare. In the vast majority of cases, polygamy is polygyny. Also, in almost every case of religiously-mandated polygamy, the people who practice it isolate themselves into societies that are effectively closed to members moving in and out freely. In these societies, polygamy inevitably sets up a situation that throws human rights out of balance.

Women in polygamous societies are under no ordinary pressure to marry. Each of the men are trying to marry at least three wives in order to set up his "future kingdom," which is exaltation to godhood. The men compete intensely and the women are under implicit, but severe orders to provide themselves as means to the exaltation the men are striving to reach. As more men become polygamists, the available women become scarce and the pressures intensify. All Mormon fundamentalist societies show evidence of this imbalance with the problem of excess unmarried men too. Most of them are driven off while they're young, since they are competing with senior priesthood holders for the few available women left. Of course the polygamous men start marrying the women ever younger, since they are the only ones who are "available." Underage girls are under severe pressure and indeed, underage polygamous marriage is rampant in these societies. Excess men are cast off, even though all are commanded to practice polygamy, and women are held hostage since they are a means for the men to reach exaltation. The women are not ends unto themselves as they should be under a human rights conception.  In these societies, women are the means by which the men succeed.  If their goals don't align with this, it spells trouble for them.  They're not allowed to conceive their own goals.


It is the polygamists who are following a religious mandate who are trying to get polygamy legalized. We can't do it for their sake; not with the way it throws things out of balance as soon as men start taking extra wives. But for non-religious polygamy, many would argue that they are not putting anyone's human rights at risk. But we have to consider what we're trying to prohibit and weigh the odds with due concern to the pressure to legalize polygamy in the interest of maximizing people's liberties. But is this "liberty" to practice polygamy such a desirable thing? Since when is polygamy necessary for anyone? One may argue that "marriage" isn't perfectly necessary either, but if everyone just takes one spouse at a time, isn't that a reasonable thing to ask? It's quite reasonable and fair to limit everyone to just one spouse. Gender need not be any kind of deciding factor either. But monogamy is what human rights theory best supports and the risk of legalizing polygamy is too great to outweigh the potential added "liberties" we may receive by doing so. I don't care who sleeps with whom, but if it causes human rights abuses in some way, we can't allow it. That is a public matter.

So put your philosophical hats on and tell us what YOU think~!




Thursday, October 27, 2011

Sister Wives: We Don't Like Las Vegas Video

Robyn is full of emotion as she expresses her concern with their children struggling to fit in with the rest of the family.
Maddie says "We were basically chased out of Utah" - uh, Maddie, take a looks here, honey, your parents have said different!

http://sisterwivesblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/sister-wives-some-questions-about.html

http://sisterwivesblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/part-2-sister-wives-moving-over-fear-i.html


OH PLEASE! I guess those kids need "special" treatment, even though they are filmed more, loud and generally not as well behaved in this family of well behaved kids! SPECIAL SPECIAL SPECIAL There, I said it!
We want to hear what YOU have to think!!!



ADDED:
TLC is premiering an all-new episode of the hit series SISTER WIVES this Sunday, October 30 at 9/8c.
Christine's daughter, Ysabel, and Robyn's daughter, Breanna, are moving out -- to Meri's house. Will Meri be in over her head having two "bonus" daughters temporarily under her roof? 
Then, the Browns are off to Big Bear Lake for some camping and fireworks, but some of the teens have different ideas.  They express their frustrations with moving to Vegas in addition to the struggles they are facing getting along within the family. Will the emotional fireworks overshadow the Independence Day celebration?

Wednesday, October 19, 2011

But they seem like such honest people, Part 1

Hypocrisy:

  • the practice of professing standards, beliefs, feelings, virtues, etc, contrary to one's real character or actual behavior, esp. the pretence of virtue and piety; falseness
(Definition from Dictionary.com and the Free On-line Dictionary)

A number of blog commenters and several professional journalists have accused Brown family members of being hypocrites.  Are they?  What is a hypocrite? 

 
To answer these questions I turned to the experts.  Imagine my surprise when I learned that the religion of Islam is very concerned about the subject of hypocrisy and Muslim scholars have well-defined definitions of hypocrites.  Isn’t it ironic that religious figures would have something relevant to say about a family that is on TV because of its religion and won’t say that it’s because of their religion or says confusing things about their religion.

My Arabic reading skills are a bit rusty, which is why this post has taken so long to complete (and if you believe that, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you).  As I understand it, Islam says that God classifies hypocrisy into 2 categories:  hypocrisy of belief and hypocrisy of action. 

Hypocrites who engage in hypocrisy of belief:
1.  are “unenergetic” in performing the commandments and duties of their religion;
2.  often don’t carry out commandments and duties that they don’t want to do;
3.  carry out certain commandments and duties to show off and to be seen; and
4.  rarely mention or remember God.

Do we even know what their religious beliefs, commandments and duties are other than plural marriage?  I don’t, not for sure.  It seems odd that we don’t see them pray much, or say grace before a meal, etc.  Yes, these things can be edited out, but many times it looks on TV like those things just aren’t frequently done except in Christine’s home.  I have always thought that the wives’ unique dress sense accommodated their “Garments”, although I wonder about Robyn.  Haven’t we seen her wear sleeves that are too short to accommodate the Garments?  Perhaps I am misinformed about the sleeve length of the Garments.  It is a personal choice, I know, but still I wonder.  After all, she is the wife who said they were “killing themselves to live this faith.”  Regarding Victoria’s Secret, I won’t go there.  Oh Lord, I just thought about it and now I need brain bleach.

Do the Browns carry out commandments and duties that they don’t want to do?  We have seen what Kody and the wives told the teens about premarital sex, and it certainly wasn’t that premarital sex is wrong.  Way to out Robyn for “living this faith” on that issue Madison [to be fair – are we proud of everything we did as teenagers?  I personally refuse to answer this question].  And everyone has an opinion about Kissing-gate.  Again, Christine refused to cross the line that she thought existed on this issue. 

The teens are certainly forced to follow a dress code that they may not want to adopt (modest tops and NO BIKINIS as per Janelle).  I infer from Janelle’s and Meri’s actions that the teens will burst into flames if not dressed appropriately; I observed that this applies only to the girls.  The boys can dress in shorts with severely baggy rear-ends and no shirts without fear of spontaneous combustion.  What a relief considering the Vegas heat.  What a double standard – but more about that when we discuss hypocrisy of action in part 2.    

It seems odd that the Browns might carry out certain commandments or duties primarily to show off and to be seen when they appear reluctant to do other religious things.  However, they are pretty proud of their shiny celestial marriages and show them off every chance they get, and have been doing so for years and years.  Yes, Christine, I am talking about you.  They even sought out a TV show and a high profile court case to publicize their New and Everlasting Covenant of Celestial Marriage.  As we saw on a recent episode, they are also not shy about televising a home church service, except for Mykelti, who felt it was inappropriate.  Smart thinking girl!  As so many others have said, how can such I-have-no-adjective-for-them adults raise such smart kids?

Finally, do the Browns frequently mention or remember God in their daily lives?  I stated above that things can be edited out by TLC, but that many times it looks like it just isn’t happening, unless it is to point out that Presbyterians are sharks, presumably of the independent fundamentalist Mormon-eating variety.  The kids went to church school for several years; religion would have been a part of their daily lives for a number of years.  If you look at their bankruptcy filings you will also know that they “tithe”.  Contrarily, while the TLC producers may control what religious material is seen on Sister Wives, Brown family members could, if they wanted to, say something about their faith in the numerous interviews they have given, or in their gazillion Tweets, or on their multiple Facebook accounts. 

So I am very confused.  It looks like the Browns are religious and also that they are not religious.  Could they be trying to hide how religious they are? 

This brings me to the second type of hypocrisy ...hypocrisy of action, which I will discuss in Part 2.

I’d like to know what examples of hypocrisy of belief you have seen with the Brown family ... or if you disagree with me.  Am I just a suspicious old biddy who wants to polygraph everyone before I’ll believe them?  Well, yes, but that’s because I like the comfy chair.


Written By Terrasola!

But they seem like such honest people, Part 2

When we left off, we were discussing the Brown family and hypocrisy.   The religion of Islam and Islamic scholars say that God categorizes hypocrisy into 2 groups, hypocrisy of belief and hypocrisy of action.  We discussed hypocrisy of belief in Part 1.

The second type of hypocrisy, according to Islam, is hypocrisy of action.

The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself.
Hannah Arendt, On Revolution, 1963


Hypocrisy of action includes:
a.  lying,   
b.  breaking promises made,
c.   betraying trust, ,and
d. being imprudent and insulting during disagreements.

Lying.  Yes, I know that the majority of us tell “little white lies” to preserve the feelings of family and friends. Do you really want to tell your colleague that she dresses like a color-blind bag lady who got dressed in the dark this morning?  No, I am not talking about those kind of “fibs”, as my mother called them. I am talking about when parents tell their children that they can choose their religion and then, when the children try to exercise that choice the parents do an about-face and say that the kids can make the choice “when their frontal lobes are fully developed.” Or when parents tell their children that they can express their opinions calmly and respectfully and, again, when the children attempt to do just that, the parents have a hissy fit pout and shut down the discussion with autocratic pronouncements – or do the same thing to their spouses. I don’t know for sure what “fibs” the authorities may or may not have been told during bankruptcy or food stamp applications, but I have my personal opinions.

Interestingly, these Islamic scholars say that lying is ALWAYS part of hypocrisy because hypocrites cheat people with words to get what they want, caring only for their own self-interest and lacking an appropriate sense of shame for the things that they have done wrong (they have done wrong and don’t care).  Hmmmmm.

One of the things I find interesting is that the wives say they are happy and the marriages are good, when their body language, tone of voice and facial expressions say something else.  If you turn the volume off when they are speaking they look sad, anxious and sometimes even frightened.  Some people might consider this a form of lying and hypocrisy.

Any of you who have read Dr. Zhivago will remember that Yurii said, “Your health is bound to be affected if, day after day, you say the opposite of what you feel, if you grovel before what you dislike... Our nervous system isn't just fiction, it's part of our physical body, and it can't be forever violated with impunity."

Some of the examples of lying above also count as breaking promises made.  When you promise your teenager (or spouse) that you will treat them as a person, and then turn around and treat them as chattel, that smacks of hypocrisy.  And didn't Robyn say that she wanted to fit in? Didn't she sort of promise to do that?  I don't really see that playing out other than her promise to create more children.

I have seen numerous examples of Kody talking about one wife to another wife about a private matter and I thought I saw Robyn doing the same thing a couple of times (monkey see, monkey do).  To me that is betraying trust. I think that the only way plural marriage can work is when each separate marriage relationship is kept private.  Apparently Kody disagrees with me.  I also feel that both Kody and Janelle have betrayed Hunter’s trust by allowing TLC to film some of his more vulnerable moments.  Again, that is just me.  I may not have 17 kids, but I do have a child with a diagnosed mental illness and I feel this will come back to bite them in the @$$ (although Hunter will probably make a mint from his tell-all book).

The episodes at the end of last season and this season have several examples of Kody behaving badly during disagreements.  He tends to shut off those who disagree with him and behave autocratically and imprudently during disagreements.  I don't know how to explain Robyn's behavior during disagreements other than "yikes".

So, in one way or another, the Brown adults don’t fare very well under this examination.    But I’d like to know what you think.
  
Written By Terrasola!

Wednesday, September 28, 2011

"Sister Wives" Season 3 opener rules the ratings!


--TLC'S SISTER WIVES is #1 among W25-55, W18-49 and W18-34 --
(Silver Spring, Md.) - TLC's hit series SISTER WIVES premiered its third season delivering huge ratings for the network on Sunday night at 9PM/ET making the show the #1 primetime program among ad-supported cable with women 25-54 and 18-49 - even beating out CBS' The Good Wife among women 18-34. The season three premiere delivered the network's highest ratings in nearly two years among W25-54 and W18-49 garnering a 2.3 HH, a 2.4 W25-54/18-49 and a 2.3 W18-34 rating. This marks the highest W18-49 rating for the series to date.
SISTER WIVES was watched by 2.8 million viewers P2+. The episode titled "The Announcement" delivered TLC's highest ratings in 2011 among HH W18-49/18-34. With the help of the SISTER WIVES premiere, TLC scored its best Sunday prime performance in over a year.
On last night's premiere of SISTER WIVES, tensions continued to build as the Browns had a difficult time adjusting to the move to Las Vegas. A nervous Robyn finally announced her new pregnancy to the family. Meanwhile, the older teens discontent over their new life started to bubble to the surface.
SISTER WIVES returns this Sunday at 9PM/ET with an all-new episode.
Source: Nielsen, 9/25/11. Highest 2 years since 11/23/09. Best Sunday = 6/6/10. Prime = 8-11p. Cov Rtg/(000s)

Wednesday, September 14, 2011

The So-Called Reality TV Show Curse: Could the TLC “Sister Wives” Brown Family be next?

Written By: Terrific Terrasola!~!

 

According to Tracie Egan Morrisey1 reality TV and divorce go hand in hand.  In a recent article for Jezebel.com she notes that there have been a number of divorces on the popular “Real Housewives of ...” franchise, and that the link between divorce and reality TV began back in the 1970s when PBS created and aired “An American Family” which showed the disintegration of the Loud family.

Why does there seem to be an association between reality TV and family breakdown?  Is it an “inflated sense of self and conceit” that Ms. Morrissey points out seems to be present in many families who agree to take part in reality TV, or is it that filming, including questions producers (and the public) ask family members, “illuminates the problems” that exist and cannot be ignored.  Ms. Morrisey notes that the nature of filming a reality TV show can also be very intrusive into family life and that people may not be “real” when outsiders are in their homes.  Perhaps reality TV participants become so used to acting a part that they are no longer being the people that their mates were originally attracted to or are simply not being “honest”.  Alternatively, sometimes cameras catch candid moments that reveal things partners were not aware of and cannot live with.

Dr. Patrick Wanis2 believes that reality TV triggers several predictable responses in participants.
1.  Most people have a subconscious desire to please others, which may lead participants to say or do things that they believe others expect of them. 
2.  Eventually participants may become numbed to the presence of cameras and exhibit “emotional nakedness”, lowering their internal defenses and leading them to say and act out what they believe subconsciously / internally to be true, but what in “real life” they would not reveal to others (by remaining silent, suppression, trying to control comments and behavior, etc.).
3.  Cameras and editing exaggerate the best and the worst of each individual.  The camera judges every action, response and statement, creating physical, emotional and mental strain.
4.  The publicity and fame of reality TV “stardom” can result in a loss of perspective, loss of the sense of one’s “true” self, and a change in one’s personal beliefs and values.
5.  The constant presence of cameras robs a family, and especially a couple, of the time needed for privacy and physical and emotional intimacy.

If you add the responses that Dr. Wanis points out above to the exhibitionist personalities typically attracted to reality TV3 or, as Dr. Leonard Hofstadter's mother explained it on “The Big Bang Theory” that people attracted to “acting” generally have an external locus of control and tend to value themselves only insofar as others value them, you have a pretty good recipe for family (or individual) breakdown.

Do you think the Browns will fall victim to The Reality TV Show Curse?  Is it already happening?  Tell us below.



Friday, September 9, 2011

Another Take on the "Sister Wives" Lawsuit Dismissal.

SALT LAKE CITY — Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff wants a federal judge to dismiss a polygamous family's lawsuit challenging the state's bigamy law, contending the stars of "Sister Wives" lack standing to do so.
Kody Brown and his four wives have failed to show that their constitutional rights were violated as a result of the statute, according to a motion filed in U.S. District Court.
"The Brown family is hardly the only polygamist family in Utah," the 15-page memorandum says, noting there are about 30,000 polygimists in the state. "There are not 30,000 cases currently being prosecuted in Utah — there is not even one."
Utah County Attorney Jeff Buhman has threatened to file charges against the Browns since their television reality show "Sister Wives" debuted last September. And their lawyer, Jonathan Turley, said that alone is enough to put the family in a position to sue the state over the bigamy law.
In filing the suit against the state and county last month, Turley said the Browns, who moved to Nevada in January, are not demanding recognition of their polygamous marriage. The lawsuit questions the right of the state to prosecute people for their private relations and demands equal treatment with those living according to the beliefs.
Turley called the state's motion an effort to avoid scrutiny of a "facially unconstitutional" law.
"Under this extreme position, state officials can criminalize any private relationship while denying the right of citizens to challenge the law, even when those citizens are denounced as presumptive felons by prosecutors in the media," he said. "We will vigorously oppose the effort to close the door of the courthouse to this family."
In a declaration filed along with the attorney general's motion, Buhman wrote that he has not "publicly stated" whether he will prosecute, an indication that perhaps he has made up his mind.
Filing charges now might actually weaken the state's defense because it could lend credence to the Brown's contention that the bigamy law has limited their rights.
University of Utah law professor Paul Cassell said prosecuting the Browns now would create a "live" question about whether the law is constitutional. Federal courts are reticent to take on cases that aren't "ripe" or that lack controversy. Charges could change the tenor of the issue.
Assistant attorney general Jerrold Jensen argues in the memorandum that the Browns have not shown even a "credible threat" of prosecution because the attorney general's office does not go after polygamists unless it suspects other crimes such as child abuse. Although Utah County does not have such a policy, its track record "belies any likely prosecution."
No one in the county attorney's office could recall prosecuting anyone for polygamy, Buhman wrote.
Only three Utah polygamists since 1960 have been prosecuted under the bigamy law but only in conjunction with other crimes, according to the state's memorandum.
Court documents say the Browns were open about their polygamous lifestyle before their reality show aired and were well known to both state and county officials.
"Now, however, plaintiffs claim that because they became the subject of 'Sister Wives' and the Lehi city police reported that to the Utah County Attorney's Office that they are  now somehow the target of prosecution," the memorandum states.
Buhman's declaration said little was revealed in the police report that was not made public in the TV show's first episode last September.
The second season of "Sister Wives" is set to begin later this month on TLC. The program chronicles the lives of Kody Brown and his wives Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn and their 16 (soon to be 17) children
(Source: Deseret News)

Sunday, September 4, 2011

Sister Wives: New World of Possibilities


What would you say if your husband walked into a bdrm, said he heard angels singing, and imagined it to be YOUR sister wife's bedroom, not yours?


Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Inside Story Polygamy - part 3 of 5 ALLRED/TLC

Part 3 contains Christine Brown's great uncle, Owen Allred. Who also happens to be David, Dayton, Breanna, and Aurora's great uncle. Who happens to also be Meri's 2nd cousin 4 times removed, and probably attached more to 2 of Meri's Mothers; He is also Kody's 2nd cousin once removed. Getting a picture here?

Owen seems the sweetest and the most sincere of any leader I have seen so far. (Might have to take that back, wrote this before CJ'S Story, couldn't of timed this any better if i tried- see if he looks like a thief to you. just goes to show you - you can't judge a book by it's cover) He gets very choked up. He also states he loves his children that don't follow the principle. Owen has since passed, but it is a look into the Allred family. His wife must of taught Kody Brown's wives the "freedom" message because she spews out the same reason for sharing a husband, why she can do whatever she wants! I don't know about you, but, yeah, so can I! Don't need 3 sister wives for that.

Then we flip back to the TLC church SCARY by my thoughts, more of Randy and a John Harper, boy, his first wife looks like her face would crack if she smiled. If that's happiness....But we learn they give EVERYTHING to the church. Yikes!
Please watch and discuss. We are learning our groups, aren't we? Education is power.


Monday, August 15, 2011

Dancing with the prophet of polygamy

 I have found myself in numerous unusual situations over the years (oops, I did it again), but one of the most memorable was the time I spent in the arms of Rulon C. Allred, the prophet and spiritual leader of an estimated 10,000 Mormon polygamists in the U.S. and Mexico.
No, we were not in the throes of “replenishing the Earth,” as Dr. Allred, a homeopathic physician, regularly reminded his flock to do “with vigor, pleasure and the love of God.”
We were dancing.
Although I hadn’t done any ballroom dancing since being forced to do so in elementary school, Dr. Allred and I twirled, trotted, soared and swooped around the dance floor with the greatest of ease. All around us, watching good-naturedly, were hundreds of his followers.
When I had first called Dr. Allred at his Murray office asking to interview him for an article, he icily refused to “cast pearls before swine.” Later that night, he called me back and said God had told him that I had a good heart and that I would do his people no harm. He scheduled an interview with me the next day and invited me to a dance that evening.
I had expected to be a very unobtrusive spectator at this gathering — just here to get some “color commentary” — so when Dr. Allred welcomed everyone, and introduced me, and then said he and I would kick off the evening by dancing together, I was mortified. I am not a dancer — at least not when I’m sober!
I had read that all a woman needs to do in this situation is to submit completely and unquestioningly to her competent partner (sounds like a basic Mormon precept!), and he can maneuver her body into graceful and even complex, rather flashy dance moves that she never dreamed she could achieve.
It worked! All I’d had to do was to go limp and trust in the prophet. He had taken care of the rest. He was a master at getting a female body to do whatever needed to be done, while remaining a perfect gentleman (that sounds like another basic precept).
Because of his slenderness and height, and his benign, bemused expression, Dr. Allred reminded me of Arthur Murray, whose television program appeared from 1950-60. The lanky Arthur and his wife Katharine were among the most beloved personalities of the era. They made dancing look as refreshing as a mouthwash commercial — all tingly and energizing. The satin swooshed, their heads turned to and fro, and their facial expressions reflected effortless pleasure.
I spent many hours with Dr. Allred, his charming wives and several couples in his flock. I attended a service, which wasn’t the slightest bit bizarre, at his Bluffdale church.
Then, I went back to New York to write my article about him, and just as it was about to go to press in May 1977, he was assassinated by members of a rival polygamous sect, led by Ervil LeBaron. He was only 71, and left behind at least seven wives and 48 children.
I am writing this primarily as a counterweight to the horrendous portrait of the polygamous lifestyle that was presented at the trial of FLDS leader Warren Jeffs. I am nowhere near an expert on plural marriage, but I do believe that what I saw during my time with the Allred group was a fairly credible representation of how “The Principle” is lived among his followers.
Dr. Allred was a complex man. His moral certitude could make him seem cold and condescending. But he was no pervert, and I don’t believe he would tolerate anything even resembling child abuse or spousal abuse among his people.
I was honored to meet his wives, who ranged in age, I would estimate, from mid-30s to mid-70s. They were very sweet and relaxed. They looked like “regular people” — not dressed in the old-fashioned pioneer getups we often see on TV. They behaved like “regular people” as well — chattering, laughing, teasing and reminiscing among themselves.
They and the other polygamous families I met discussed the pros and cons of their lifestyle candidly.
It would not be prudent to generalize about polygamy from my glimpse at the Allred flock. Rulon and his brother, Owen, who succeeded him, were regarded as moderate and open, relative to other polygamous sects.
But I feel compelled to support the Apostolic United Brethren, often known as The Allred Group, in its statement last week condemning abuses in the Jeffs group and denying that it is involved in these depraved and criminal activities.
I trust that, for the most part, they are good people, attempting to live in a very challenging way because they believe it is God’s will.
Sylvia Kronstadt, a semi-retired writer and editor, blogs at kronstantinople.blogspot.com.

Saturday, August 13, 2011

Lifting the Veil of Polygamy

Anonymous (Why is everyone Annony?) reminded me of this great movie. Take the time to watch it sometime and comment on it.

This show that presents the video is on a local Utah channel. They have a few interesting videos at their website. You might like to check them out. See our lovely Flora make a brief response on original LDS and Warren. Hear about Nauvoo, Illinois, where Robyn's family leads back to and much more. Interesting.

This documentary examines the roots of Joseph Smith's legacy, and its modern-day fruit. We follow the compelling testimonies of nine former fundamentalists, who shed light on this practice and lifestyle which has been shrouded in secrecy since the earliest days of Mormonism; but more importantly, they share the true freedom they have found in the Jesus Christ of the Bible.