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Showing posts with label Polygamy USA. Show all posts
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Sunday, September 15, 2013

Ed Kociela - Author of "Plygs" on "Polygamy USA" Dixie State Discussion on Polygamy - and Video


**Ed is answering all questions posted tonight!!!

Today is a great day to tie in a post about "Polygamy USA" s01e06 "The New Polygamists"

Ed Kociela - Author of "Plygs" was on the show Polygamy USA after going to the discussion at Dixie State University in St. George, Utah. "Polygamist Culture and Alternative Religious Traditions" were discussed at the forum. Here's a link  Dixie Today

Remember in Polygamy USA when Marleen Barlow aka Thomson, was driving to the discussion telling us how she wanted to tell her story, and how they feared "her whole family ripped apart?" The Browns had a similar storyline...well, one good reason to watch "What Love is This" below... Ed Kociela and Doris Hanson discuss if there is a reason for fear, and why the TV stars always tell us about it....

In short, the Centennial Park ladies go to "tell the truth" about their lives in polygamy. Sorta like the Browns tonight. 

Marleen asks the crowd if they associate polygamy with Warren Jeffs or some type of abuse...I don't have a pic but UP goes Ed's hand.  Ed was the long haired cool looking guy in the audience that the camera kept going back to in the episode...and next to him is his lovely wife Cara, whom also is a poster here at SWB. The camera liked the couple and kept going back to them during the show.
 
Author Ed Kociela Questions and wife Cara observes

 Audience questions leads to Ed's "We have heard there are misconceptions but we're not told which ones they are." "We are told there is a difference between the CPark group and the FLDS." 
"What are you, where are you, and where do you stand?" Ed questions the ladies.
 
CPAC members Polly, Marlyne Hammon, Priscilla, and Maureen Thomson (Barlow)answer

Priscilla responds: "CPark people have never been a part of the FLDS.  The organized after we were out in CP already.""To say that we are an offshoot of the FLDS just isn't true and one of those misconceptions." 

Marlyne responds, "There's laws to take care of that today...it happens in monogomy...it's not polygamy that creates these type of people, it's people that created this type of people." 
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I contacted Ed and asked him to write a little piece about the filming. We got lucky and he did. We're lucky enough to get 2 behind the scenes views of televised debates with polygamists. BIG thanks to Ed for writing this piece and overall helping me this week, and to his wife Cara, who also has been a great support and helps me when I have blonde moments and keeps me going--- THANKS GUYS!!!
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FROM ED: I spent a lot of years in the media as a reporter, columnist, editor in the print field and commentator in broadcast. My blood would boil as I would hear people spit out epithets about “The Media” and its failures.
I left my last job in the newspaper business as a local news editor/columnist for one of the newspapers in the Gannett chain two years ago to write the book ‘plygs’ (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008NRZT1M), a journalistic novel about life within a polygamous community located on the Utah-Arizona state line. My wife, Cara, and I moved to the tip of Baja California, Mexico to remove ourselves from the day-to-day lifestyle and         pressures of life in the southern Utah to allow me the comfort and distance to string together what I hope were some coherent words.
From afar, we observed the “Sister Wives” phenomena and, since our return, as we work PR and promotions for the book, “My Three Wives” and the latest entry into the world of polygamy TV, National Geographic’s “Polygamy, USA.”
After examining these shows, I have to jump the fence and agree that, well, “The Media” has let us down. You see, polygamy as practiced in the real world by Mormon fundamentalists is nothing like what is portrayed in these shows.
It is dark, perverse, criminal. And, it is eliciting support among a group of civil libertarians who argue that the government has no right to peak behind our bedroom curtains. The sad truth, however, is that the issue of polygamy is much more complex, that while individual freedoms should be guaranteed for all, they should not come at the expense of little girls who are sexually abused when forced into marriage with much older men; that it should not come at the expense of women who are coerced into a life of servitude to ensure their eternal salvation; that it should not come at the expense of young boys who are forced out of school and into the shops, work crews, and factories of the church-owned businesses; that it should not come at the expense of the taxpaying public who forks over nearly $14,000 a month in welfare benefits as the people of the community participate in the practice of “bleeding the beast,” which in simpler terms is defrauding the government to obtain money, food stamps, health care, and other government benefits that kick in the moment they write “father unknown” on their child’s birth certificate.
You won’t see that on “Sister Wives,” you won’t see that on “My Three Wives,” you won’t see that on “Polygamy, USA.” Instead, you will see a sanitized polygamous lifestyle that has little in common, other than plural marriage, with the overwhelming majority of polygamists in this country.
“Polygamy USA” takes us inside of the tiny community of Centennial Park, Ariz., where about 1,500 people who live three miles from the fundamentalist Mormons who follow Warren Jeffs, the self-proclaimed prophet of the FLDS church who is serving a sentence of life plus 20 years in a Texas prison after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls—one 12, the other 14—who he took as “spiritual wives.” A dozen other men were also charged after an investigation revealed that 12 girls, between the ages of 12 and 15, had been given in “spiritual married” to much older men and that seven of them had one or more children.
The Centennial Park group, which is known as “The Work of Jesus Christ” and “The Second Ward” claims no ties to Jeffs and the FLDS after a nasty break in the 1980s over leadership, something they proclaimed loudly when we went to Dixie State University in St. George, Utah recently to listen to a group of women from the community speak.
Although we had heard about “Polygamy, USA,” we didn’t know that the National Geographic crew would be present that day, filming the women for a segment of the show. And, when I asked a question of the women, I didn’t have a clue whether it would make the show’s final cut.
I was more surprised with how the responses to my question that day were edited and was even more surprised when a spiel by one of the women about how she explained to her children, who came to her after learning of a raid on the Texas FLDS compound, that the police took all the children away because they had “more than one mommy” when the reality was that the police raided the FLDS compound because of reported sexual offenses against children.
I am concerned because these shows do little to expose the complexities of polygamy, the dark side of it, at a time when there is a serious movement to have Utah’s anti-polygamy laws overturned. We already have an attorney general who has stated that he will follow his predecessor’s policy of not prosecuting polygamy violations, we have the Kody Brown (“Sister Wives”) family suing to overturn the state’s polygamy laws, and we have some traction among a small group of people who are well-intentioned in their belief in civil liberties, but are woefully uninformed when it comes to the abuses of polygamy.
There are those who support legalization or, at least, decriminalization. However, the danger is that either step would eliminate all oversight and make the crimes against children easier to commit and closet from the public eye. Legalization or decriminalization would legitimize a culture built upon perversion and fraud. Legalization or decriminalization would continue the coercion of women into servitude under the guise of religion, depriving them of their basic human rights.
But, you won’t get that by watching “Sister Wives,” “My Three Wives,” or “Polygamy, USA.”  Damn media!

**If you haven't already, read the new book by Ed, "plygs" a journalistic novel based on historical facts that is riveting. Many have been talking about it here the past few days. We will be reviewing the book soon!

**This is another must see. Doris and Ed have such a great discussion on many facets of polygamy including the politics of, The Brown family, Polygamy USA, should polygamy be legal, well, you've got to watch it for yourself! Great show.  

Polygamy: What Love Is This? with author Ed Kociela (2 May 2013)



Author Ed Kociela has a knack for taking his readers behind closed doors. He has taken readers into the home of a family victimized by the nuclear fallout of the Cold War Era nuclear blasts at the Nevada Test Site in "Downwinders...the play," opened the doors to the frightening secrets locked away within a fundamentalist Mormon polygamous cult in "plygs," and now walks you backstage to hang out with some of the biggest stars in rock 'n' roll history in "It Rocked! (Recollections of a reclusive rock critic)." The book includes intimate looks at such musical giants as George Harrison, Mick Jagger, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, The Beach Boys, Peter Frampton, KISS, Foreigner, Journey, BB King, Frank Zappa, Willie Nelson, Carlos Santana, Dick Clark, and many others who he interviewed, worked with, and got to know as a rock critic for the Los Angeles Herald-Examiner and music industry publicist.

"Plygs" is the culmination of his 16-year career as a newspaper reporter, columnist, and city editor for The Spectrum, a Gannett newspaper located in St. George, Utah, which is located about 45 minutes from the community along the Utah-Arizona state line upon which his novel is based.

 "Downwinders," was one of only three presented for a series of readings by the Utah Shakespeare Festival's "New American Playwright Series" in 2005. Kociela has also written two screenplays.

He is an acclaimed writer whose work has bridged many aspects of the media world. As a newspaperman, he won numerous awards from the Associated Press and Society of Professional Journalists. He now works as a freelance writer and weekly columnist for STGnews, an online news outlet. His career includes newspaper, magazine, and broadcast experience as a sportswriter, rock critic, news reporter, columnist, blogger, and essayist. Over the years, his work has been featured in myriad publications ranging from the Los Angeles Times and Los Angeles Herald-Examiner to US magazine and GOAL!, the magazine of the National Hockey League.

(Source: Ed Kociela, Cara Curfew-Kociela, PolygamyUSA s01e06, Polygamy: What Love Is This? with author Ed Kociela (2 May 2013))

Sunday, July 7, 2013

"Polygamy USA" Some Family Trees from Centennial Park to the Dargers




A Little Genealogy of Centennial Park: 
A little bird's been helping with the genealogy. I hope to have a complete one soon. As with all genealogies, they may be errors, but this is to the best of our knowledge.

**Do you know that ISAIAH THOMPSON is actually ISAIAH BARLOW?
**"Wife" BECCA or REBBECA is REBECCA TIMPSON, father RAY TIMPSON, which would of some relation to JOHN W. TIMPSON, one of CP's leaders.



**HYRUM "BURTON" TIMPSON recently married KELLIE. I have to say I thought the tree HYRUM made was really sweet. KELLIE is not KELLIE THOMPSON.
KELLIE is KELLIE BARLOW, the sister of ISAIAH "THOMPSON" BARLOW. The BARLOW name goes to JOHN YEATES BARLOW, who was a Mormon fundamentalist leader in Short Creek.

**ISAIAH BARLOW and KELLIE BARLOW are siblings!

Which leads us to HYRUM's curious parentage.

Source say that HYRUM BURTON is actually HYRUM TIMPSON, son of Centennial Park leader JOHN W. TIMPSON. Also according to reports, SUSIE was not his mother, Sister wife mother, yes. Full Aunt yes. But we've been told his mother is actually another wife JOHN W. TIMPSON'S and SUSIE'S full blooded sister, Arthur Hammon's half sister. We will call her Mother HAMMON TIMPSON, which also would be ARTHUR HAMMON'S half sister. It wasn't his mother that passed, but his aunt, or other mother. That was a definite "white lie" on the show if this is true. We have been told that all the children were to call SUSIE mother, whether she was their actual mother in the home or not. 

HYRUM's grandfather hence is ALMA A. TIMPSON. His home was the initial Centennial Park group meeting place. He was an influential part of the group, and Centennial Park leader from 1988 until his death in 1997.

While we are speaking of Aunt Susie's passing, here is her obituary. One thing polygamists love to do is to leave out the names of their children!


SUSIE TIMPSON
Sep 13, 1946 - Nov 15, 2012

 Our beloved wife, mother, sister and friend, Susie (Hammon) Timpson, age 66, passed away peacefully in her home in Centennial Park, Arizona, surrounded by her family.  She was born September 13, 1946 in Hildale, Utah, the oldest daughter of J.M. Hammon and Alice (Barlow) Hammon.  She spent the early years of her life in Salt Lake City, UT and Farmington, UT, then moved to Colorado City, AZ in 1960.  She married John W. Timpson on September 7, 1964.

Susie graduated from the Colorado City Academy in 1964. She then attended Stevens Henager College of Business.  She spent the first years of her married life living and working in Salt Lake City, supporting her husband as he attended the University of Utah.  After he obtained his Bachelor's Degree in Physics, they moved to Colorado City, AZ, where they raised their family.  Again, she supported her husband as he completed his mission of educating the young teenagers of Colorado City Academy for 20 years.  She was employed several times over her life time, most notably at Polyseal in Salt Lake City.  She worked and interacted with many people she cared deeply about, and they loved her as a loyal friend and mentor. 

She then returned home to Colorado City and, together with her husband and family, built a home in Centennial Park, where she lived the remaining years of her life.  She was relied on to put her mind, heart and hands wherever she was asked to participate: in family life, in community life, in religious life.  She was intelligent, beautiful, strong, passionate, full of life and humor and compassion.  She loved administering to her husband, her family and her community.   She loved the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the opportunities and blessings it brought to her life.   She was a strong and valuable advocate for women, loving them and encouraging them to strive for a greater life and destiny.  She is a beloved friend and counselor to so many.

She is survived by her husband, John, her children and numerous grandchildren, and a large, loving extended family.  She is preceded in death by her parents and her husband's parents, who she loved deeply.

Funeral services will be held Wednesday, November 21, 2012, at 1:00 pm at the Centennial Park Chapel in Centennial Park, AZ.  There will be a family gathering from 7:30 to 9:30 pm on Monday, November 19th.  Friends and family are welcome to say goodbye to Susie on Tuesday, November 20th from 7:00 - 9:30 pm and again on the morning of Wednesday, November 21st from 10:00 am - 12:30 pm, prior to the service at 1:00 pm. Interment will be in the Centennial Park Cemetery, Centennial Park, AZ.

The family wishes to thank all those who assisted in the care of Susie over the last five years.  It is deeply appreciated.
Brethern Leader JOHN W. TIMPSON and SUSIE HAMMON

Speaking of JOHN W. TIMPSON, on of the leaders of Centennial Park, we found an interesting relationship between him and Creepy Crawly MICHAEL CAWLEY.
Remember when poor ROSE was talking with the Brethern, *Cough* Grandpa CLAUDE TOMKINS CAWLEY? Buckle you seatblet, 'cause he we go again!!

Brethern CLAUDE T. CAWLEY is the father of MICHAEL CAWLEY.
CLAUDE T. CAWLEY has a number of wives, one being another sister of ARTHUR HAMMON. One of ARTHUR'S unnamed sister is another wife of JOHN W. TIMPSON. Boy, ole ARTHUR has sisters everywhere!

Now here comes the connection between Brethern CLAUDE T. CAWLEY and Brethern JOHN W. TIMPSON....they are brothers from the same mother!!
Meet  GUINEVERE CAWLEY TIMPSON, mother of both CLAUDE T. CAWLEY and JOHN W. TIMPSON. They are brothers from the same mother.


Born: 20 Jan 1914-Died: 17 Mar 2012
**First wife of Cawley, not of Timpson.
Guinevere Woolley Timpson was born on January 20, 1914 in Ogden, Utah, and died on March 17, 2012, in Colorado City, Arizona. She was the daughter of Franklin Benjamin and Ellie Seegmiller Woolley, the youngest of their 12 children, all of whom she survived. Her early years were spent in Ogden, where she married John C. Cawley, who was tragically killed in an automobile accident in December, 1937. She married Alma Adelbert Timpson on April 25, 1944, leaving Ogden to live with him in Salt Lake City, Utah. During subsequent years, she operated the True Method Reducing business in Salt Lake. She has lived briefly in Los Angeles, California, Boise, Idaho, and Riverside, California, returning to Salt Lake City in 1956, where she resided until her move to Colorado City, Arizona by 1970.

Her life was marked distinctively by her loyalty to the priesthood authority she recognized as presiding over her, under whose guidance she performed ordinance work during most years of her long life for hundreds of young women. They and many others of her extended family and acquaintances came to love her as a wise counselor and dear friend.

She is survived by her two sons, CLAUDE T. CAWLEY and JOHN W. TIMPSON, and numerous grandsons and granddaughters.

Funeral services will be held at 12:00 noon in the chapel at Centennial Park, Arizona, on March 25, 2012, and a viewing open to the general public from 6:00 p.m. until 9:00 p.m. March 24, as well as 9:00 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. on the day of the funeral. (Source: Deseret News, Mar 2012)

Which makes JOHN W. TIMPSON an uncle to MICHAEL CAWLEY, and HYRUM "BURTON TIMPSON" and MICHAEL CAWLEY first cousins.

MICHAEL CAWLEY is married to TERESA KNUDSON, who is a sibling to ROB KNUDSON, husband of AMANDA DARGER, daughter of JOE DARGER. See how this ferris wheel rides? It gets interesting.  TERESA KNUDSON'S parents are KENNETH C. KNUDSON and unnamed HAMMON. There's that HAMMON surname again. The KNUDSON family have that HUGE home in Centennial Park.

Before we leave the DARGER'S - here's JOE DARGER'S Father's obit:


 Our friend, brother and loving father, Joseph Lynn Darger, passed away December 13, 1995, at his home in Herriman, Utah.

Lynn was born December 24, 1946, in Salt Lake City, Utah, to David Brigham Darger and Virginia Beth McDaniel Darger. His mother died in 1958. Lynn's life was the gospel of Jesus Christ, and he lived and loved it to the very end. His selflessness and sacrifice blessed him with many friends and a large family who love him and will miss him.He is survived by his wives, Shauna, Melinda, Brenda and Debbie; children, Joseph, Jason, Danielle, Dustin, Rachel, Levi, Lucas, Moroni, Kristina, Eliza, Shauna, Brigham, Melinda, Rebekah, Ethen, Heber and Heleman; sons-in-law, Matthew Jessop and Ryan Jessop; daughters-in-law, Cindy, Vicki, Alina, and Rhonda; other mothers, Celesta, Violet, Deborah; brothers, Ronald, Brigham, David, Allan and Richard Darger; sisters, Dawn Boss, Janet Williams and Kaylene Barlow; and 29 other brothers and sisters. Preceded in death by his father and mother; special mother, Aldora ("Lizey") Darger; brother, Lee Darger, and sister, Ann Kelsch.

Funeral services will be held Saturday, December 16, 1995, 2 p.m. at Larkin Mortuary, 260 East South Temple. Friends may call Friday evening from 6 to 8 p.m. and one hour prior to services. Interment Elysian Burial Gardens. (Source: Deseret News)

Remember how JOE DARGER said "Big Love" was based on his family?
Here's an interesting artile I came across about JOE'S father JOSEPH LYNN DARGER'S wife SHAUNA:
Seems like the ole Mother of the Year award scenario really happened!

POLYGAMOUS MOM SLIPS OUT
BACK DOOR OF CEREMONY
As Gov. Mike Leavitt and his wife Jacalyn honored 24 Utah women as "great examples
and symbols of motherhood," another nominee quietly slipped out the back door of the
Governor's Mansion because her polygamous past had become known by ceremony
organizers.
Shauna Lynne Darger -- nominated by her son for the award -- arrived for Saturday's
ceremony along with two dozen of "Utah's Remarkable Mothers" from around the state.
But the Riverton mother of 10 never stepped up to accept her tribute.
Informed that Darger had been a polygamist, ceremony organizers confronted her.
Darger acknowledged having a past polygamous relationship, then left the mansion with
three grown children who had accompanied her, said the governor's spokesperson, VickiVarela.
"I'm declining the award," Darger tolda Salt Lake Tribune reporter, refusing comment
about whether she currently is in a polygamous relationship.
Darger was one of four wives of Joseph Lynn Darger, of Herriman, until he died in
1995.
The woman was pictured along with the 24 other nominees in a full-page ZCMI
department store ad in Saturday's Tribune.The governor learned of the controversy only after the ceremony, Varela said. "He
respected this as the best choice for this person to make under the circumstances," Varela
said.
Organizers did not try to persuade Darger to stay.
"It was clear she was choosing to leave the event," Varela said, adding Darger did not
want to attract negative attention to the ceremony, nor to herself.
Varela said the focus on polygamy was unfortunate for the other mothers "and for this
mother's mothering which,
have no doubt, is honorable."
Family and friends nominated Darger by submitting letters to ZCMI
and the Governor's Initiative on Families Today.
Criminal background checks were run on the nominees, Varela said, "but there is
nothing that would have brought this to our attention."
Laura Chapman, a former member of the anti-polygamy group Tapestry of Polygamy,
said: "There are some good mothers in polygamy. I don't think that should exclude her
from an award. But if she's indoctrinating her children to break the law, that's not a good mom."
Polygamy was renounced by The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1890, and six years later outlawed
by the Utah Constitution. Darger won a place among the list of 25 women,
in part, for starting a successful catering
business after her husband died. The business has allowed Darger to support and nurture
her children at home, according to a son's nomination letter.
Added the son: "Her daily heroism both inspires me and epitomizes the high office of motherhood."  (Source: Salt Lake Tribune: 2 May 1999. pg. C.1)

Now Back to the Polygamy USA Bunch!

MICHAEL CAWLEY had a great grandmother named FAWNETTA JESSOP. That leads his family into the ALLREDS, JESSOPS, BARLOWS and past leader JOHN YEATES BARLOW.

ROSE CAWLEY probably has to do a lot of genealogy before finding that inspiration about a husband! 

I'll stop there for now. We will go into the HAMMON family tree next.

The same names keep popping up over and over in this small town. When another generation is added, you can connect about anyone-from the Browns, Dargers, Jessops Allreds. This is one interconnected group!  Some information is left out to protect those not on the show. If you'd like to add information, please email us at the right!

Be sure and check back for a new post coming...a perspective of what it's like inside Centennial Park and other polygamist sects, from Ed Kociela, author of "Plygs" who was in a scene of Polygamy USA.  

Interested in the family history of the Browns? Click these.
Meri's family
Meri's sister Teresa
Kody's family history
Janelle's grandmother

Speaking of "Big Love" are you a fan? Then check out the fun comparisons between Sister Wives and Big Love - here and here. Cynical Jinx is our resident Big Love Expert!


Just In:
INTERESTING Video from Nightline:
'Ole MICHAEL CAWLEY talking about adding another wife (just what he needs) and ROSE MARIE talking about getting a husband with none or ten wives, so nonchalantly! MICHAEL says he would sleep good at night if ROSE MARIE married a 70 yr old man, that's what father in heaven wanted. RUN ROSE RUN! God has multiple wives according to ISAIAH BARLOW cough Thompson. Watch his wife REBECCA TIMPSON BARLOW roll those eyes when interrupted by MARLEEN!

Thursday, June 13, 2013

Updated: MORE NEW CLIPS Our America with Lisa Ling Modern Polygamy - Teresa moves out and comes back.


***Please check comments at about comment 74-76. I have added a new article link and two more video clips to check out. Thanks!

In Nov. 2011 we covered an E2 of the series "Our America With Lisa Ling - Modern Polygamy." Since that time, the video was pulled-however, we were lucky and found a link to the show in it's entirety. Why such interest in an older show? It is all about Centennial Park, and some of the same folks on this show are highlighted on POLYGAMY USA. It's almost like peeking into their world a couple years sooner.

Here the link to the original show:

http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/yyFmvqOHwOw/

Yes, you will feel like you are in Pokeman commercial world, but once the show is on, you'll forget all that!

Since then, clips have come out. Teresa in this clip moved out of the family home, then returned. Even Ole Arthur is in the clip.

The Story Continues: Modern Polygamy - Our America with Lisa Ling - Oprah Winfrey Network
And Dr. Drew:
It's a peek back in time to probably what got the ball rolling on "Polygamy USA."

Saturday, May 11, 2013

UPDATED: POLYGAMY USA ADDED...Where are those Sister Wives? Mother's Day Treat!

Lots of tidbits on this post, feel free to discuss any shown or whatever is on your mind!

ADDED: POLYGAMY USA Tues. (S01E02) “The Winter Ball”

Living in a fundamentalist Mormon community, young men and women don't have many opportunities to socialize. An exception is the town's New Year's Eve celebration. Arthur puts his boys to work decorating the hall. When the work is done, the boys put on their best for the single women. The oldest Cawley daughter, Rose Marie, is nervous to attend. She's hoping to receive her inspiration from God about whom she should marry, and the ball provides an opportunity— if she can get over her shyness.
You may go to NG Website to see a clip:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/polygamy-usa/videos/get-lucky/

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 Wonder if we will hear from them soon?

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ALSO ADDED:
Lorin Holm, who has been excommunicated from the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints since 2011, invited us to his home to give us a first-hand look of the house he once shared with his three wives and 25 children. (Source: Mormon Lost Boys: Lorin's Story (VICE on HBO Ep. #5 Extended)