Then it happened. TLC posted a blog from of all people Robyn, who is clueless, CLUELESS on what concerns women may have in their daily life. In fact, just to show how self-centered she still is (after almost 3 years of marriage) her first blog entry focused on Robyn and how a beautician mistreated her.
Remember Robyn's rant about Hunter not so long ago? Well, now she has turned her wrath on an unknown beautician. I imagine Christine and the older Brown children are breathing a sigh of relief that Robyn has set her sights on someone OUTSIDE of the family cul-de-sac this time.
I find her story to be unbelievable. This is how she described what happened:
"I had this experience with a beautician that really threw me off and set me back. I sat down in her chair to get my hair done and immediately I could tell she was bothered. Her face was hard and after a few moments of awkward small talk she looked me straight in the eye and said, 'You must be crazy and stupid to ever think being married to a man with more than one wife was a smart choice.' "
Trust me, if I thought a beautician was that upset about my sitting in her chair, I would get my fat behind up off that chair and ask for another stylist. Or complain to the manager. Or look at my watch and say "Oops, I've got to go. Thanks, I'll leave your tip with the cashier." I would not just sit there and allow a woman with a scowl on her face (and a pair of deadly weapon scissors in her hand) anywhere near the juggler veins in my throat, let alone the hairs on my head.
Nope, that was pure fantasy on Ms Sullivan's part.
In a way, her Letter to a Monogamous Beautician was so indicative of what makes Robyn tick.
When Robyn says "Please allow me to enlighten you" she's actually saying How DARE you talk to me that way. I am better than you, and don't you ever, EVER forget it !
And can Robyn be so simpleminded to think that her 'belief system', which apparently allows single women to fantasize about married men as potential husbands, would sit well with the married women in the world? No wonder her 'belief system' doesn't actively proselytize. What married woman would want to join a 'belief system' where every "belief system' get together becomes a supermarket where single women can shop for a husband. Based, of course, on that man's track record with his current wife (or wives), his ability to parent, and surprise surprise, his wealth. Wealth that the original wife worked hard to obtain and now some single female wants to share. Let's be real, forget about how the man treats his wives or his ability to parent, it boils down to this: Easy money, and with Kody Brown, 15 minutes of fame on the side.
So this is how I picture Robyn meeting Kody that first time. While Robyn was husband shopping, a check out girl announced "Clean up on aisle 3", Robyn hurried over and saw Kody standing there with camera crew in tow. Robyn may not be the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, but she's not a total idiot. The rest is history.
When Robyn says "I KNEW my husband was going to be a good husband and father before I even started to consider marrying him..." I laughed out loud. Robyn honey, like you said in that book you co-wrote, you saw the convertibles, you were offered a free wedding and honeymoon. Woman, you saw DOLLAR SIGNS and a TV SHOW - that's what motivated you to get married again. Short of Kody falling off of Mount Everest, this was a done deal. And to support this, you even said of your first marriage you were married to the son of a very prominent plyg family. Well, now you are married to a plyg man on a reality show on national TV. So please, spare me the "I am lucky and blessed" simplistic view of your 'belief system'. You married up, and most likely you will be onto your next plyg hubby once the Sister Wives train pulls into the depot for the last time and the McMansions go on the auction block.
Just so no one will forget just how Robyn operates, let's take a walk down memory lane...
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A crying, non glamorous Robyn with flat stringy hair from Season One.On the right is a picture of Kody kissing his girlfriend (Kody's words) ..while Christine is in the hospital about to give birth to Truely.
On the left, Truely's crib located in Christine's bedroom in the Lehi house. While Kody was away courting Robyn, Meri and Janelle helped a very pregnant Christine rearrange her bedroom furniture so the crib would fit.On the right is Sol's crib located in Robyn's Las Vegas rental. Sol had his own bedroom. According to Robyn, her first husband (from a prominent plyg family) did not provide any of her 3 children with a crib. At least that's what she told Kody...
To summarize her words towards Hunter at the time: You can no longer deny I'm your father's wife now because I just gave birth to his baby. Deal with it.
I bet there's an open letter to Hunter hidden in her bedroom
somewhere.
For some reason, Robyn felt it necessary to bring in outside help.It was announced on the show last season that Taralyce would be living with her sister Robyn. On camera, Taralyce was featured in the Plygcation episode. Off camera, she accompanied Robyn on various trips, including the Nauvoo trip.
So much for relying on sisterwives for help.
And let's not forget the wonderful comment she left on her MSWC Facebook page that admonished readers to remember before complaining about being billed for merchandise they haven't received, or misspelled words or errors in grammar, that she's got a screaming baby hanging onto her legs (or something like that).
Like I said, looks like those amazing sisterwives aren't all they are cracked up to be, in the real world.
You can read the entire article here:
Robyn Brown: Open Letter to a Monogamous Beautician
Robyn, Robyn, Robyn! I would like to ask her what belief system she is referencing!?! All of the Brown's supposed "beliefs" have seemed to fall to the way side as TLC keeps filming and money continues to flow their way!
ReplyDeleteOh man, this blog is just like the entire last season. haha We have heard it all before Robyn. As a side note that picture is not doing anything for her.
ReplyDeleteSmashing head on keyboard. Robyn, talk less. She really is in her own weird bubble, isn't she?
ReplyDeleteomg, it's obvious w/nothing but gagalicious worshipping comments posted in response to her open letter, all the ones that aren't are being denied a voice. hah!
ReplyDeleteDrinking too much goo I say!
ReplyDeleteI think that Robyn made the whole "hair encounter" up in order to gain sympathy and in the hopes that her multitudes of fans would leap to her defense. I have a hard time believing any of their poor-me stories, especially this gold-digger's.
ReplyDeleteIn the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "what a maroon!"
I'm not buying it either. It doesn't sound right, and what fool would let someone near their hair if they had that attitude? I'm picturing a buzz cut as the least horrible scenario. It feels made up - is she getting Christine's habit of exaggeration? My best guess is that she fabricated this to stir up indignation and garner sympathy from their 3 remaining fans. All of the adults are lying liars who lie about lying like dogs.
DeleteWell said synopsis of Sobbin Robin's entrance and role in KodyWorld.
ReplyDeleteBecause her MO was so, so obvious from day one, she is the least interesting and most predictable of them all.
She whimpers and she whines, always blaming life, her ex-husband, ungrateful/ impatient *paying* customers, a teenage bonus son who dared not to worship her and her antics, unsympathetic, non-helping sister wives, and of course, the cynical, critical, mean public at large for whatever "poor me" is her discontent du jour. And now she even conjures up an imaginary, judgmental hair stylist to use as a perp.
Sobbin, you just aren't that interesting for anyone to take the time and energy to challenge or to take seriously.....really you aren't.
You need to go back to doodling in your iconic-jewelry copybook and just keep quiet.
Wow Robin's message is pretty laughable. I wonder if she is always looking for an upgrade of a man. For all her monogamous vs plural talk, she sounds like a serial polygamist more than a woman who loves her mate. If the Kodettes and Krody did attend more AUB functions, I think we'd see Robin looking for her third hubby.
ReplyDelete-
A blog that gets eyeballs and traffic is a successful blog.
ReplyDeleteThe Gordon Setter
Janelle's blog entries are well composed and focused. I just read 4 tonight and enjoyed what she shared. They are practical, honest and uplifting. I'm not sure I like the TV show and I know I don't want to see polygamy legalized, but I do appreciate the food for thought Janelle offered.
ReplyDeleteSobbin Robin's blog is the whiny self serving BS that I don't like to hear from friends or family. Waste of my time to read her views and learn about her testimony/lifestyle if her entry is 1/2 poor me for being tongue tied when directly confronted about her lifestyle and then self congratulatory about days later writing down things she might have said about how *smart* she thinks she is.
After the failure that has been My Sister Wive's Closet I can't believe they would let Robyn of all people write a blog. This should be fun to watch.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised it wasn't Meri or Christine. I mean, really, Robyn hasn't even been a sister wife long enough. If Janelle didn't already have a blog and TLC had asked her to write instead of Robyn, I could understand it because she is the "smart" one (relatively speaking). I wonder if they get paid.
DeleteRobyn used to be my favorite. Not anymore!! I do think shes fake and plays the sympathy card! She got new nursery items that christine didnt get. King sol forsure!! I also remember robyn saying how she couldnt imagine living as one man one woman and that it would be weird....hellooooo she did do it with her ex!
ReplyDeleteYou know, for a long time I thought Robyn was "okay". I thought everyone was being too hard on her. I don't know what I was thinking???!!! I think she is just in it for what she can get. When she was pregnant with Sol, it seemed like she was trying to get "fans" to donate stuff to her. I remember seeing a tweet where she said she needed everything. Now, you know people were gonna start sending her stuff and she knew it too. Why would she enter into a family who had nothing and was struggling the way they were financially, most especially because she had no financial integrity herself? I think she knew there would be a TV show. I just don't think she's sincere. (I know you're all like, dang Mock, what took you so long to figure that one out? LOL)
DeleteSo after unprofessionally bitching & moaning about people complaining on MSWC page for their lack of being able to be productive & getting orders out on time bc supposedly she's super busy doodling, etc.. all the while w/ screaming toddler hanging from her leg, this ditzy bitch has time to write & upkeep a blog?? Oh PUHLEEZE, spare me!!!
ReplyDelete“I have always been the kind of person who liked to make sure the people around me understood where I was coming from…I have certainly been grateful for the opportunity to communicate what my life is about and why I believe what I do.”
ReplyDeleteHi, I’m Robyn and I like to talk about me!!!
While, I don’t think this happened the way Robyn says it did, I absolutely believe she sat down in a hairdresser’s chair and started running her mouth. Lots of people like to share the joys of their religion with others. It makes sense that when you feel fulfilled by your faith you want others to know. But Robyn doesn’t talk about her religion or her God, she talks about herself, her husband, her sister wives and their many kids. She knows her lifestyle is not universally embraced. She either does it for the shock value, or because she genuinely believes that everyone knows who she is and thinks she’s important.
Dear Robyn,
Just because you have a media outlet doesn’t mean you should use it. Writing this open letter and putting it online just makes you seem vindictive and mean. If you had a problem, you should have taken it up with the salon management. Maybe if you weren’t ALWAYS crying, the rest of us might believe you when you talk about how great your life is. But, probably not.
This is probably the best comment I've seen regarding this post so far! I COMPLETELY agree with you, Anony 7:05. I couldn't have said this better myself. I too don't believe the scenario was made up. But that it all did really happen and she was rambling on about until the hairdresser had enough and gave her honest opinion. Just more holes in her many, many stories. She definitely has a reputation for telling victimized stories of herself and skipping detailed parts of why it all happened to begin with. Its all about the attention.
DeleteI don't understand how these women cannot see how disgusting it is for your husband to be sleeping with 3 other women. How can they justify it through their religion. Why would your torture yourself with the jealousy. I know it makes us better women right? Only they all seem so emotionally stunted.
ReplyDeleteThey never even really answer this question which is like a huge elephant in the room, other than their "it's just jealousy and we become better people learning to deal with it" blah, blah, blah answer. I guess because if they did answer it truthfully, at least one of them would have to admit their anger and disgust, which would be normal human feelings. I think they'd have a show that would last a little longer than the current one will if they'd be real and start being truthful about the problems of their marriages. There'd be so much more to tune into that's for sure.
DeleteI agree with you Hopeful and I don't think the Browns know just how serious jealousy is. It's really dangerous. Even the bible, which they say they follow, says that jealousy opens a door for evil in your life. Anyone ever see Snapped, or Stalked on the ID channel? Jealously is not just something "to get over" and their lifestyle creates it for the amusement of men. Kody absolutely wants them to be jealous of eachother because he wants to be the guy women fight over. It's disgusting.
DeleteWith their homes SO close together now...you cannot tell me they won't be peering out their windows, waiting for Kody to get home with the other wife and wondering "What did they do tonight", "How come Kody doesn't take me out", "I wonder who they were with", "Whats that package they are taking into the house"...etc...
DeleteTHIS IS DOOMSVILLE!
I would love to know why the housewives sit around discussing money. The mansions ( 4 of them ) are in progress with obvious funding in order to start. I also wonder why Cody doesnt have a job ? The other ladies talk about working and in fact I guess one of two of them do. Just curious how anyone can afford 4 mansions. Does the show pay that well ?
DeleteI think that Kody was sitting over Robyn's shoulder as she typed her blog telling her what to say. I think that's been what's behind all of her know-it-all-about-polydactyl-lifestyle attitude from day one.
ReplyDeleteI think Robyn's power is that she gives Kody a voice with the other women, and Kody reinforces that voice (his) by paying her more attention and wielding the jealousy stick if the others complain
I don't think the two of them together could form a complete sentence. It's pretty obvious Robyn didn't write this. I agree with CJ, an intern at TLC writes all the blog posts.
DeleteI am willing to bet all the glowing comments and supportive words in the comments after the blog were written by someone within the family. Oh I wish monogamist hairdresser would step forward! I'd love to hear that side of the story, if that person even exists. And, Open letter? Please, if she really wanted to make a statement, she would have done it to the persons face! Not in some random blog. Obviously her convictions are not that strong. Even if she were shocked by the so called attack, she could have gone back the next day!
ReplyDeleteI have several problems with Robyn writing a blog:
ReplyDelete1. she has the literacy skills of a second grader, so her representing the "family" will only reinforce what we all know--women are not valued; they are not educated; they are not free thinkers.
2. she is only doing this for attention--Janelle's blog is becoming somewhat successful, so Robyn is wanting to gain popularity so she thinks--which is dangerous--I can be like Janellle and people will like me.
3. she is a liar. No one can believe a thing that spews out of her herpes infected mouth.
4. she is a parrot and says what the limited minds of the polygamous men have said for years--being a sister wife makes you a better person.
5. she does not need those weakminded followers listening to her bull.
Finally, I doubt a hair stylists would voice her opinion about sister wives because most hair stylists that I've met are all in it for the money and they know if they don't make the customer happy, there will be no repeat visit, no tip, and no referrals.
Robyn, I smell a lie.
IF it happened like she said, I don't blame Robyn for being upset, and I don't blame her for writing a blog entry. That said, if that was supposed to be a glowing report on the joys of polygamy, it's a big ol' FAIL.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I kinda doubt that the hairdresser made her comments out of the blue. Maybe a film crew came in and she felt pressured to allow them to film her. Maybe Robyn and her were having a discussion and the hairdresser just expressed an opinion and Robyn is misreporting what she said. I doubt we'll never know the true story.
Agree with you wholeheartedly Hopeful. If they were more honest about their actual daily challenges in plural marriage, the show would be more interesting to watch and could last longer. As has been said by many, for a group of women who are so happy, they spend a lot of time in tears.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing that might mean nothing, but makes me wonder about the veracity of her story... Remember Meri and Kody talking about having a regular hairdresser they both see? So Meri and Kodturd have a regular hairdresser, but the rest just randomly go to someone new each time they need a haircut? Doubt it. I would think they all have a "someone" who does their hair, a "someone" who does their nails, and so on... Could be wrong, but makes you wonder...
ReplyDeleteThey've been living in Vegas for a couple years now. No way has Robin not found a regular hairdresser. Besides which, Robin has put her life in the public sphere. This can't be the first time she's had someone make this comment to her.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, Robin didn't write this. Whoever wrote this understands proper English and grammar.
I have to laugh at her comments regarding Kody's shining example as a husband and father. Let's see:
He drove several hours away from his 9 month pregnant wife, whose previous childbirth delivery had issues to see Robin.
His wives all drove crappy cars. Especially Janelle who drove an hour each way to work.
Meri was continually in tears during Robin's courtship, more than once implying that she might leave the marriage.
And this was prior to Robin saying YES.
As a monygamous wife, I have absolutely no desire to pick out another husband. If I did, I wouldn't pick out one currently in use by someone else. I don't share. I wouldn't pick out someone who treated his loved ones the way I mentioned above.
Very well said "mythoughts"
DeleteAlso.....she changed her sons name because being named after his father presented Kodouche with the "Ick factor"
The only thing I see that she brought to those previous women was a wicked case of herpes.
I would call them the Blister wives but "wives" really don't fit either.
@Orange Meri, lol. I have to add that I think on top of bringing herpes into the family, she has brought more debt and a constant headache. I don't think Christine is ever going to get over being replaced by Robyn the way she was. Don't know if she is ever going to leave Kody or not, but her bubble has been burst and I wouldn't be surprised if once the houses get foreclosed on she moves back to Utah by herself.
DeleteHowling out loud over "blister wives!" That is hilarious OrangeMeri Whine!
DeleteI am so using that from now onto refer to them!
omg OMW - two thumbs up on "ORANGE MERI WHINE" and "BLISTER WIVES!" two golden goodies. thanks! :D
DeleteRobyn is a pathological liar in order to claim the victim card again and again - whether it be against her sister wives or against her ex-husband or to her creditors or her iconic fans or whatever. that's who she is. nothing new here.
ReplyDeleteThe new part is the felony. Remember, she was a monogamist herself until Prince Charming showed up.
DeletePBF?? Well, since we've only really "known" her since she became a felon plyg Brown sister wife and have been witnessing her pathological lying from day one. so, again - I still say nothing new here w/this latest lying drama she's relaying to the public now. i could no longer believe that grass is green and the sky is blue if those statements came out of Robyn's mouth. She has ZERO CREDIBILITY in truth telling for me.
DeleteI just had a chance to read the article. I'd suspect that "awkward small talk" that happened before the beautician allegedly said what she did was something like this:
ReplyDelete"Hi, I'm Robyn. I'm married to a man with 3 other wives. We live just down the street in mansions that cost almost half a million each, and none of us have real jobs. The smartest thing I ever did."
I just want to know how much of a tip she left.
Robyn wants to keep up the poor me role, remember the "this isn't the America I grew up learning about" or something to that affect comment, she said through tears? It's always something dramatic with this one. She isn't letting go of that role at all. I think this was written by someone, Robyn probably didn't even know about it until after it was already composed and they just had her push it. TLC/F8 have their numbers by now, they know how they speak and what they say repetitively, heck, I bet I could write something and make it sound like it came from one of these bafoons, they aren't exactly the most well-versed people out there.
ReplyDeleteThat Robyn blog is so fake (in keeping with Brown tradition)-
ReplyDeleteAfter the alleged beautician comment, she was "dumbfounded" and her "communication skills were no where to be found"...seriously?? Guess she doesn't read her SW Closet FB page because the alleged comment she's whining about is tame compared to some of those. Here's a thought Robyn- if you want people to leave you alone then stop displaying your private life on tv for a paycheck!
I find it hard to believe that that is the first person that has said something nasty to her. (If it happened that way) If she is going to live that way she needs to she needs to develop a thicker skin. Just like the rest of us do. When people say mean things to us. What irritates me is that it seems like the only people that disagree with this religion are the ones on this blog and my mother. Every other women I talk to sees no problem with it. Of course they might if it was their husband they had to share. This religion sets women back years as far as being equal in a man's eye. I bet all the women that fought for our equality are rolling in they're graves.
ReplyDeleteShe has no backbone. Why would you stand for that and not say anything to anyone in the hair salon or whatever about how she was offended by what the stylist said? Come on. Writing an "open letter" on a blog is just a cry for attention. She's constantly a victim but she needs to get over herself. She signed up for this lifestyle, but it's becoming more apparent that it's not as wonderful as she says it is. I'm over her.
ReplyDeleteCount me in with the folks who think that Robyn didn't write this.
ReplyDeleteI also agree that after two years, she must have found a regular hair stylist. Maybe the whole family goes to the chick that was doing Kody's hair? If so Janelle needs to find a new color person before she totally wrecks her hair.
Also put me in with those who believe that Janelle doesn't write HER blog either. Maybe a little of it, but then it's heavily fleshed out and edited. The parts that came from Janelle are those that talk about her kids - the rest of it is all stuff that's been said on countless weight-loss/fitness blogs, forums, et al.
DJ, I frequently agree completely with your posts. Bet TLC writes both blogs, maybe with a little input from the sisters. The letter, supposedly from Robyn, strikes me as another sign that all the sw and folks from TLC read this blog. Have not most posters been speaking out about the sheer stupidity of polygamy for women from the blog's beginning? The defenses of polygamy chosen by the writer are faint praise, at best. LOL But that defense must have been the best the whole Brown crew could think of. And what is really scary is that the Brown's might really believe that nonsense!
DeleteWhether Robyn wrote it or didn't write it, whether it happened or didn't happen...the whole "incident" is just one more reason that I am glad that I am NOT in the public eye---whether in politics, entertainment, or for any other reason. Even, e.g., Mother Theresa, Einstein, Billy Graham, Joan of Arc---you name them---have/had detractors---so I prefer my anonymous, private life where one has the usual circle of family, friends and co-workers. That being said, when one does put themselves deliberately out in the public arena---well, as others on this blog have said, you will have cheerleaders and non-cheerleaders dissecting everything you do. And, I'm with those who don't understand why Robyn didn't say something to the hairdresser/the salon owner at the time of the occurrence---then LEAVE the salon. I don't want angry people working on MY hair!
ReplyDeleteMaybe she didn't say anything because the hairdresser WAS the salon owner, and Robyn edited her written remarks to make her look like the victim of a person who was rude without provocation. I suspect the truth is nowhere near what the blog said. (If it IS true, it's one of the first times since the show started that things happened as they were reported.)
DeleteI guess we could all run to the exclusive "Great Clips" closest to their house and see for ourselves.
I'm just so sick of all the Brown's using the Word monogamy lightly & making it seem like its a bad thing. All the while trying to convince America that polygamy is normal when in reality its abuse, a cult, & a modern day type slavery hidden under a banner of religious lifestyle!!
ReplyDeleteFrom the blog: "Though you may not understand this reason, you also need to know that because of my family structure and the way I believe, I have amazing women – my sisterwives – in my life who support me emotionally as a mother and help me raise my kids. It is a huge blessing to me and to my children"
ReplyDeleteSeriously?? She has emotional support from her sisterwives? They help her raise her kids?? When did this start? Like yesterday? I vividly remember her pitiful tweets looking for girl friends to hang out with. And the depressing tweets about extreme lack of sleep due to having a toddler (generally hinting to the other wives 'help!'). Nothing we see or hear on the show, in the book, etc. shows that there is any emotional support going on. If anything, there is emotional abuse in the form of other wives trying to capture Kody's time and attention.
I am ok with their religous beliefs and their choice to be polygamists (er...plural families) but let's be honest, there is very little emotional support in this family.
Add me to the list of people who think that neither wife writes their own blog. I don't totally trust Janelle either.
I also think we need an indepth article about just Meri's tweets. She is truly entertaining.
Totally agree about Meri's tweets needing an in-depth article! She gets a little out of control on there and it is pretty entertaining.
DeleteAlso, I have to add that I never really thought about polygamy before this show but after watching the Brown family circus I saw how emotionally crippling this lifestyle can be for women and children. NONE of the wives look happy, the kids get neglected (financially and emotionally there isn't enough to go around with that many wives and kids) and meanwhile the man gets to have his cake and eat it too.
I hope that most if not all of the Brown kids can escape this lifestyle. What really scares me is that the Browns are supposed to be this great example of polygamy...
Another vote here for no way did Robyn write this herself. Nor do I believe that this happened the way she describes, if it even happened at all.
ReplyDeleteIf some version of this *did* happen, and Robyn was offended, then she would have written a letter to the *manager* of the salon...
It is interesting to me how self-centered and childlike the sister wives come off in their attitudes. It is like they never matured beyond the 9th grade. The only exception is Janelle who has actively taken responsibility for the financial support of her family - even before the TV show. Perhaps that is why she is so much more relatable and likeable than the other wives. She lives in the real world and has not cloistered herself under the safety net of her secretive religious community.
ReplyDeleteWhat makes me sad is that these women can never and will never experience the deep level of intimacy and trust that develops in a monogamous marriage. They may think they have that in their polygamous relationship, but without fidelity on both sides, I don't think that's possible. It's obvious from watching the show that there is always an undercurrent of jealousy in the Brown marriage.
I saw this quote recently and thought it would be fun to share with the blog. Especially coming from the mouth of such an experienced "dater."
"Marriage requires a special talent, like acting. Monogamy requires genius."
Warren Beatty
Sounds to me like Robyn is overly sensitive. I am guessing that actually did happen but not in the way Robyn remembers it happening. Probably what happened was Robyn went to the salon, said
ReplyDelete"Oh, hi I am Robyn from the Kody Brown circus on TLC."
Which led to the stylist to comments
"OMG, I can't believe that you share a husband, how can you do that."
Obviously Robyn felt offended by that but I am sure that she is just overly sensitive and she over reacted.
I find her reaction very interesting, isn't there some saying that says something to the effect of those who over react are showing their true feelings or something like that. I think Robyn's reaction to this minor incident is very telling.
Prayers and more prayers for all the people of Boston and for all families of the deceased and injured. The injuries are horrific....many amputations.
ReplyDeleteWe have family and friends in Boston. They are all okay.
Our next-door neighbor is also there with his family. He runs in the marathon every year. They were there in the vicinity of the explosions. He and his wife and children are unscathed physically, but he has been texting the horror of what it was, and still is at this point.
SO sad, so horrible........!!!!.
Thanks for the kind thoughts- we're all still trying to process how this sunny, beautiful Patriot's Day/Marathon Day could turn so quickly into a day of just incredible sadness.
DeletePraying for Boston as well. Hope and pray everyone else in the area is okay.
DeleteIn the book they all say Robyn has "emotional maturity" and brings great communication skills to the family. Are we now supposed to believe this great communicator was dumbfounded and left speechless for days by a question about her lifestyle? I really wish they would stop with the "poor me" routine...that totally stopped working when they bought 4 McMansions!
ReplyDeleteHa! That was Janelle who said that and I believe she was trying to be nice.
DeleteI think it's funny how she assumed the Monogamist Beautician was a Miss instead of a Mrs. That whole blog of her's was so full of crap. I would be embarrassed to say my religion allowed unmarried women to scope out suitable married males like some damn female Leisure Suit Larry on the prowl. Her church most likely cringes every time she opens her mouth!
I agree that Robyn thinks she's better than the beautician because she assumes a monogamist single woman is not as worthy as a polygamist 'married' woman. That's why I'm hoping Kody brings on the 5th wife so she can really cry about how lucky and blessed she is to whoever will listen on twitter.
Boo Hoo. She doesn't look like she has a beautician. I don't believe her story. Maybe she just wanted an excuse not to pay the bill for her $10 haircut. ....Any excuse not to leave a tip?
ReplyDeleteWhat I wanna know is how do you practice such an unconventional "religion" and not have a "canned" response ready for anybody who asks you why you do it or says something to you about it? At the very least, she should know that not everyone is going to agree with them so she should expect to have to defend polygamy at some point. I think all religions have to do that. Even the Bible tells us Christians to be ready to give an answer for the hope that we have. Did she not think that she'd ever have to face, as someone said upthread, "detractors"? Come on, Robyn. Grow up. Everyone does not like, admire, or want to be anything like your family. Do they really live in a bubble? You'd have to in order to stick around in a setup like this.
ReplyDeleteEasy to explain
Delete1 She's barely literate
2 She thinks she's smarter than she really is
3 She only hangs out with her own kind...polygamist kind that is
4 She's extremely self-centered
5 She believes the stuff people say to her on facebook and twitter about how much they love her
Also, who calls a hair stylist a beautician these days? I think it is the equivalent of calling a flight attendant a stewardess ....
DeleteWhats next?? An open letter to Disneyland bcuz they wouldnt comp the Browns & Dargers during their plyg-cation?? Or maybe an open letter to all us "meanies" & sharks @SWB??... Lol
ReplyDeleteWell CB remember how Papa Joe tried to do just that on his facebook but eventually backed down and they had to tell the whole truth what happened in Disneyland instead...Papa Joe called it a "clarification". At any rate I think the Dargers have totally distanced themselves away from the Browns now.
DeleteLol....Oh Yeah, I forgot about Papa Joe's attempt at "clarification".... But Ol' Robyn cant be outdone & might want to blog about her own twisted version..lol
DeleteYep, I think ur right about the Dargers trying to distance themselves from the Brown clowns. Oh darn, guess we wont get to see another plyg-cation w/ the 2 families like they so readily & publicly "committed" to during the episode & vÃa tweets...haha Im sure excuses will be made that both families had busy conflicting schedules..
And an open letter to Meri's former employer who fired her for being a plyg?
ReplyDeleteAn open letter to Kody about the real reason(s) she married him & how he really sucks in bed and how she had pretended the whole time he was like a ron jeremy
DeleteIf memory serves, Meri (or Kody for that matter) weren't fired for being plyg, their employers were probably aware of that - they were fired (or apparently in Kody's case, chose to leave) because of the visibility being on the show brought to them. Some of Kody's big accounts, I believe, asked for a different sales rep after the show aired. I can't blame them since even in the first season, he came across as rather pompous (and again remembering that one ep where he decided not to go back to work after it was discovered he wasn't needed for some school thing). IMO.
DeleteOh my goodness, where to start....
ReplyDeleteRobyn starts her "open letter" like this:
"I have always been the kind of person who liked to make sure the people around me understood where I was coming from, and in turn I like to understand where they were coming from."
From those very first words, I was rolling my eyes. If someone has to "tell" you what kind of person they are, chances are they are quite the opposite. Actions speak much louder than words. And I don't think Robyn or any of the Brown adults care to understand one bit where others are coming from. They shove their polygamy down the throat of everyone they meet for shock value, then become offended when confronted with an opinion that is different than their own. In what universe is that "understanding?" They are all desperate for attention, and Kody is the ringleader of the "Look At Us!" circus.
They say that this lifestyle is what they wanted and they all believe in it, yet with every episode, their actions say the complete opposite. I have never seen so much unhappiness squished into a 22 minute show.
Someone above posted that there should be a seperate thread dedicated to Meri's tweets and their underlying meanings. I think we could have some fun with that. She's the Queen of Passive-Agressive. She could teach a class on it.
I agree with you. If you're living the truth of your particular life, you shouldn't have to stand up and explain to people what you stand for.
DeleteThe thing that bothered me in her open letter was where she said: "Though you may not understand this reason, you also need to know that because of my family structure and the way I believe, I have amazing women – my sisterwives – in my life who support me emotionally as a mother and help me raise my kids. It is a huge blessing to me and to my children."
How many times have we seen tweets or just heard that she was "busy" and no one helped her. In fact, isn't that why her sister has moved in? To help because Robyn's so busy? Seems like maybe that whole sister wife thing isn't working out too well for her. Just sayin'
Why didn't Robyn just use that hairdresser who did Kody's hair? Surely she'd offer them a family discount.
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've read the blogs before but Janelle's entries resounded with me. As someone who has struggled with an eating disorder for 25 years now, the entries I read ring true---even if she's not actually writing them, I do think she gives a lot of input.
I still believe that Robyn was the "chip" in the poker game with TLC/F8F to be the family picked for the show. The producers were looking for a plyg family and it sounds like Kody was originally kinda-sorta courting Robyn but got turned down by the AUB because he wasn't financially solvent enough to support a 4th wife...then the call came in for a family to be on the show and why not make it better TV by having a big marriage for Wife #4? Then the courting started in earnest, with cameras filming the process of course...
ReplyDeleteIt might have been Browns vs. Dargers, or some other plyg fam, but by agreeing to add Robyn, that was the chip that made the deal for the show, IMO.
That said, the question arises if a Wife #5 is on the horizon? My thought is that they MIGHT do it, to add some life into a dying reality show, but it won't have nearly the same impact as the original Robyn add. There is only so much entertainment value in adding wives and popping out babies before it gets old. And really, the family isn't really that interesting...other than the polygamy and the grifting that they have demonstrated on national TV is part of the lifestyle. The Dargers, who apparently don't grift or live on welfare, seem to be the exception to the rule in that regard. IMO.
Thought Robyn's sister was a hairdresser and while living there
ReplyDeleteexperimented with various hairstyles - though she still looks the same.
IMHO they all could use s makeover.
Maybe it was her sister she's talking about ... Lol! Her sister did move back home didn't she?
DeleteI still personally believe the whole situation with Robyn and "the beautician" was made up or at the very most was an amalgam of things that have happened in the past - EXCEPT that Robyn didn't say all that. You know how it is...that's probably what she WISHED she had said at the time. Or that's how the ghostwriter at TLC decided to spin it...most likely.
DeleteI was going to reply on her BLOG on TLC-but reading through the comments-1st, I almost got sick.. and then I realized that there were only 2 SOMEWHAT negative comments. TLC/Browns deleting NEGATIVE comments??? AGAIN?
ReplyDeleteRobyn's 'letter' shows how ignorant and unintelligent she is. But, then again, should we all be surprised?
If the Beautician (come on now! Hairdresser! Beautician sounds so... 50ish!!) really said this, yes, she was rude, and maybe should not have said it THAT WAY.
BUT-
Robyn has to realize 1st of all=she came on board AFTER THE SHOW WAS ALREADY ON-so some things should not be a surprise.
AND 2ND-Robyn and the rest of the BROWNS are on a TV SHOW, have websites (TLC, FB PAGES, and other VENUES). Robyn and her FAMILY get out there and spout how WONDERFUL SISTER WIVES, POLGYAMY, etc. are... and no one can rebute them. Well, ROBYN, Miss Beau.. HAIRDRESSER might have been rude.. BUT THIS WAS HER CHANGE TO GET HER VIEWS IN! (though calling her names might have been in poor taste-but for all we know-her husband left her for another guy?).
I personally think that Polygamy is WRONG. The thought of sharing a man with 3 other women is, well, DISGUSTING to me.
But, I would have said that the beautician was EXTREMELY RUDE if SHE had gone after Robyn if Robyn was a private person who did not go out and tell people about her lifestyle, etc. Again, polygamy is against the law, but if they were not hurting anyone... I would not be out critcizing them. It would be up to law officials to decide whether to prosecute or not.
BUT, ONCE YOU TAKE YOUR CAUSE TO THE BOOB TUBE, INTERNET, PAPERS-you have BECOME OPEN TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE YOUR VIEWS.(of course, that does not mean physically harming, or stalking them.) Especially KODY, ROBYN AND FAMILY! They are GETTING PAID $$$$$ FOR IT!!!
All this 'talk' about standing up for polygamy's rights.. trying to turn the law over... just looks like a lot of BS.. If SHE, ROBYN, cannot handle this, GET OFF THE SHOW! The rest-the same thing! It is tiring of hearing them whining over supposed 'prejudices'(-i.e. the Navoo Illinois Museum-that the Brown's were 'barred' from entering. The tour guide said it was because they were poly-but the Museum-which is PRIVATELY OWNED-does not ALLOW FILMING INSIDE. Twisted truth??? The Museum name (which I forgot) was blurred out-could have been sued, but wasn't.)
sorry for the rambling, but, Robyn, GET A SPINE OR GET OUT!
Amen! And don't be sorry Anony. I must say that I find it almost distasteful that someone can publicly blog about their emotions with an open comment section, yet won't allow someone's honest and truthful opinions, like yours be heard. And isn't the blog on the TLC site? The network that introduced the world to the Brown family and polygamy. Shame on them too for deleting comments, if that's what they're doing, and not allowing others voices to be heard. I say that because I can't wrap my head around the fact that there are only positive comments. I do believe they monitor their blogs.
DeleteAnd I too am sick and tired of hearing about 'prejudices'. Not just from SW, but from everyone. But that also seems to be a recurring theme of TLC shows. People with prejudice issues.
TLC/Browns deleting NEGATIVE comments???
DeleteThe negative comments are still there...since 4/13/13.
Thank you CJ. I'm going to have to check that out. When I read the blog it was still so fresh there were hardly any comments. REALLY wish the Hairdresser would come forward. Still wouldn't surprise me though if they started deleting the negative here soon.
DeleteI left a negative comment a few days ago, totally expecting TLC to delete it but I just checked and it is still there. I am actually pretty surprised they kept it up, just proves to me that the Brown's aren't really writing these blogs because we all know if they were the Brown's would have the comments taken down! I doubt the family even reads the blogs.
DeleteThe saddest part to me isn't the comment that said Robyn picked a wonderful husband and righteous sister wives, but the fact that Roby's blog is getting tons more comments than Janelles. And Janelle's blog (whether she writes it or not) is a thousand times more meaningful and well thought out. Guess TLC was right when they thought Robyn would bring more attention to the show/family. Something about Robyn just rubs me the wrong way and I don't know what it is.
I think its important to know that Kody went on record that he did not allow his families to read blogs because of the negativity. In the early years, their main contact with fans was through their family friend controlled Facebook fanpages and Twitter account which not only controlled content, these friends also controlled access to the friend-only fanpage - deleting comments and banning users at the drop of a hat. I remember one person being banned from the friend only facebook just for mentioning Kody being bald. Or the woman who was banned from Kody's twitter because she questioned the propriety of Kody advertising a doctor who was also going to be his business partner (for the gym and that fell through). It is only a very recent development that they started using twitter exclusively...which I feel may have been mandated by the Brown's publishers and TLC so that all fans have equal access to them like their other talents (Honey Boo Boo for example) that in turn would help increase viewership and book sales.
DeleteNowadays, the Browns only answer a few fans via twitter now, and maybe will put out a notice on their MSWC facebook page (hidden behind a generic admin name). It is not surprising that those family friend run fanpages are now ghost towns, while main fan traffic being directed to the TLC run Facebook page, twitter, and now the blog located on TLC's main website. I noticed that Janelle, and now Robyn are tweeting to their fans whenever a new blog is put up.
I doubt very seriously that the adult Browns read the comments on any social media that is not directly controlled by the Browns. However, it's obvious someone in their camp DOES review blogs and relays the info on to the adult Browns.
CJ do you think that the older teens do whatever Kody tells them to do at this point? God, I hope not - I think they read whatever they want to read. I'd like to think they are a little bit independent in their thinking, particularly Maddie, Hunter and Logan. Kody has said "we are going to let our kids pick what they want to believe and whether they want to follow us in the lifestyle" yet they have shown OPEN disapproval when one of their kids dares to say that they aren't interested in being plyg themselves.
DeleteI also remember that Darger/Brown episode where Joe's family all pitched in together to get the vehicles packed and ready to go (some people didn't care for that, but I think Joe was doing what his job is in the family, to keep things organized and running smoothly - I don't see him as the dictator others think he is) while Kody is shown with a haphazard pile of stuff and saying "WHERE ARE MY SLAVES" while Meri and Janelle (if memory serves) do most of the work and the kids are God knows where. Kody feels he should just get respect even though he hasn't earned it. Joe receives the respect because he's shown his family he's earned it. IMO.
CJ do you think that the older teens do whatever Kody tells them to do at this point?
DeleteThat's a hard one. I think the Kody we see on the show is not the private Kody off the show. Occasionally we see can see the "real" Kody in his actions - like when he doesn't approve of something someone has said he just deletes and bans them, and he has even given this advice to Joe Darger. I must say that is the major difference between Joe and Kody. Joe will engage distractors, not agreeing with them but appreciating their viewpoint on his blog. Back to Kody, who would ban and delete any comment he deemed inappropriate.
If you compare Papa Joe with Kody, Papa Joe might come across as a dictator, but I agree with you. Papa Joe is just showing the leadership and organizational skills that Kody lacks. Papa Joe has a written out plan - Kody runs around swinging his hair around while yelling for his slaves. Papa Joe knows what his religion is about and takes it seriously. Kody uses his religion to get what he thinks is important: having more wives than his brothers; having more children than his brothers; not living in a big house (like Papa Joe) but in 4 huge McMansions - each about the same sq footage as Papa Joe's "humble" abode; Kody thinks of himself as an entrepreneur businessman, when in fact he's nothing but a snake oil salesmen.
So do I think Kody tells his older teens what to do? I think he tries and I think as each teen gets older, they rebel against him. Logan said he couldn't wait until he was 18 so he could make his own decisions. In the first season, Mariah showed a definite negative attitude towards Kody(to the point Meri told her to show some respect). If you read the older teens tweets, they can't wait until they are 18 and gone. Even Aspyn is talking about decorating her dorm room. And those occasional tweets saying how much they love their family? I think those are Kody demanded and don't seem heartfelt.
Yes - and even the little one (can't remember which little girl it was - one of Christine's) said in an ep about a couple years ago - the father-daughter dance - that she invited Logan because she wanted a "dad" figure all to herself and didn't like to share. Christine was shocked and (if memory serves) admonished her daughter a bit for saying something like that. Also I think saying if it wasn't for polygamy then there would be no Logan...that to me is a weak argument. But I was glad to see the little one sticking by her guns and not backing down. It gives me hope for the rest of the children.
DeleteI'm reading several commen on here stating that TLC/F8F were just out and about looking for some random polygamous family to do a show about. And that the Browns got lucky and were picked. And that Robyn only came in after the Browns agreed to add a new wife to the mix to seal the TV deal.
ReplyDeleteWhile the adding Robyn part could very well be true...I thought the real reason they landed the show was because Christine did some televised interviews with Principle Voices, that landed on BBC, that fell in the laps of F8F producers (with the help of Kody submitting it to them) asking for a show to tell their story. I don't remember reading in the book that TLC was randomly looking to cast a show about plygs. I could be wrong though. I'm just really confused now :-)
Oh, and to further comment on Robyns blog...Meri and Kody have a personal hairdresser NOW that they're in Vegas. It never looks as if they ever get their hair done except for interviews and TV promossional photo shoots. Perhaps this hairdresser was from the wedding episode? Maybe that's why she didn't use the family beautician.
The producer's website at puddlemonkey.tv indicates that the producers (puddlemonkey - NOT F8F at that time) thought about doing a plyg reality show, and contacted Principle Voices, who gave them several family names including the Browns. You can read the story on their website - they state the search started in 2009 which could have been pre-Robyn. From the story given on the Puddlemonkey.tv website, it sounds like they weren't aware of the BBC interviews until AFTER Principle Voices gave the producers the Browns and other family's information.
DeleteAlso according to the producers - the idea of a plyg reality show wasn't from TLC, it was their own idea (I'm sure that the fact Big Love was such a hit on HBO was really the genesis of the idea) and they brought it to F8F since they already had a track record for the Gosselins and (I believe) the Duggars - and F8 brought it to TLC.
Thank you DJ. So TLC works with several production companies and they just give the big OK to put an idea on the air. Sounds so confusing. But I think I got it :) It makes sense now that you mentioned Big Loves success. Why not try to capitalize on that with a reality show. I read the Darger's book and I do remember them saying that several stories of Big Love were inspired by their family and their families stories. Its been about a year since I read Becoming Sister Wives and of course I don't remember the Browns explaining in full detail how they came about landing their show like you did. The way I remember it, they made it sound like it was mostly all their idea.
DeleteActually I think that's the way it's done these days. Most of the ideas for show concepts don't come directly from the networks or channels, they are brought in as proposals from independent producers.
DeleteLet's use "American Idol" as an example. The concept/idea for the show did not come from Fox - it was created by the Spice Girls' former manager as a show "Pop Idol" in the UK, then after it became successful there, they shopped the idea to all the major US networks, who turned it down except for Fox.
I doubt that the networks develop very many shows independently these days. And again...remember that TLC is known for being cheap. It's WAY cheaper to just have production companies come to THEM with show ideas than to hire a staff and filming crew etc to come up with shows that might or might not be successful.
and whatever the Browns' version of how they got the show is, they like to put their own spin on things as wel all know by now. Kody is driven by easy money and easy opportunity more than he ever was by his so called religious beliefs. IMO.
Have to comment on the "personal hairdresser" that Kody and Meri supposedly have. I'm sure she has other clients. I know a LOT of stylists who don't work out of salons - they either work out of their homes or go to the homes of their clients - more and more often this is the case, especially with the introduction of "Square" which allows ANYONE to use their smartphone to accept Visa. Plus, it's less expensive for the stylist as he/she doesn't have to pay rent at a salon. Times are definitely changing! But for Kody/Meri to act like they have their own personal hairdresser makes her sound "exclusive" to them, which I'm sure she's not.
Delete@DJ--That reminds me of the RHoNJ (One of my faves) when Teresa and Melissa were fighting over their "personal hairdressers." I should add that Teresa was the one with a problem and at the very least it was edited to appear that Melissa was exhausted by yet more drama.
DeleteYes, the stylist was an expert at how they like to wear their hair, but it seemed so obvious that this person has plenty of clients and doesn't live off of just one ladies head of hair. Plus, as you pointed out, having your hair done at home is getting to be more common as stylists have to figure out how to make a living in an economy with less money for luxury!
Last seasons "Will I or won't I" episode about cutting Kody's hair did seem to take place in a salon, but I have a feeling, like everything else about the show the location was picked for how it would film more than as a representation of where he usually has his hair fluffed. ;)
Traci - it's definitely more of a convenience/service factor for the client - and a savings factor for the provider (after finding out how much my stylist pays for station rent - yikes!). My massage therapist just got Square, and now he can do house calls - I was his first Square client over the weekend, and I gotta tell ya...having a massage at home as opposed to going to the spa and being able to totally relax in my bathrobe (as opposed to getting dressed and having to drive/walk home) ROCKS. I am sure that having hair, nails, or other personal services done at the client's choice of venue would also be equally convenient and amazing :)
DeleteOoh- that sounds smashing. I would love that! :D
DeleteTraci...trust me...it WAS smashing. I'm definitely doing it again!!!
DeleteNot to mention that my massage therapist is a lil hottie. :)
i've used a hairdresser that comes to your home. tried it twice. didn't like it at all. would much rather have the mess and convenient chairs etc. at the place of business itself. especially since the cost of the service was actually a little more due to "my convenience." understandable, since they have travel time & gas involved. the travel time cuts into their # of appts. they can do in a day.
DeleteI'm sure it depends on where you live but here there's not much traffic and it takes me 10 minutes max to get to a selection of any nails, masseuse or good hairdressers.
Anon 11:47 - it's all about what you're looking for. For me, anyway, a massage in the comfort and convenience of my cozy pad is awesome - being able to wear a robe and have a drink and relax instead of having to get dressed and drive/walk back home was great!!! and it was fun hanging out and having a drinkie-poo with my very cute CMT afterwards. almost like a date. :)
Deletedefinitely perspective on the massage one, DJ. I got my own live-in hottie at home - who gives GREAT foot, head and back massages. yes, i realize how extremely lucky i am on that score!! BUT i was simply giving my own two trial experiences on having the in-home hairdresser which was no bueno for me compared to just going to a shop for that. :)
DeleteRight on. They love saying that they are persecuted. What a slap in the face to all who truly know persecution.
ReplyDeleteThis is all I have to say:"Oh my goodness, oh my dayum, oh my goodness...look at that Ham!"
ReplyDeleteJust a note of thanks to all of you for keeping the conversation lively and on topic!
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Did anyone catch Robyn's backhanded compliment to her sisterwives when she wrote "I knew Kody was the guy for me because he had proved himself to three other women. I had proof that he loved them through money issues, stretch marks and PMS" ?
ReplyDeleteMoney issues = bankruptcies by each of his three wives, starting with legal wife Meri.
Stretch marks = has got to be referring to Christine and Janelle who gave birth to a total of 12 children for Kody.
PMS = Robyn thinks PMS stands for Psycho Meri the Sociopath.
Of course she's the perfect wife. Skinny and fertile. She's got to be a very unhappy lady...
She does have stretch marks though. Some women just get them. Mine started in the 8th month of my first pregnancy. My sister's had 4... no stretch marks.
DeleteI have a feeling Kody deals with PMS the same way any 17 year old boy would - mock fear of the crazy b.... lady. He doesn't strike me as real emotionally mature. Probably would make some kinda fool of himself literally running to another wife's house and hiding behind her.
'Course, the ladies probably have to work real hard to keep all that 'nonsense' to themselves so as not to spoil their night with loverboy.
Sobbin must be a totally weepy basketcase at that time of the month, seeing how she's even drippier than my washer-less kitchen faucet on a good day. Kody'd be floating around like Alice in her flood of tears. In water wings and a swim cap.
Look at the related links at the end of Janelle and Robyn's blog entries. Janelle has links to various weight loss tips and lifestyle changes that will help people. Robyn has links to photos of her and Kodouche and photos of King Sol. No concern for others, just look at me!!!! Look at me!!!!
ReplyDeleteSobbin is quoted saying "I had proof that he loved them through money issues, stretch marks and PMS"
ReplyDeleteSobbin, what really you had *proof of* when you scoped out Kody is that Kody loved the fact that the more children his one legal and two non-legal babymoms produced, the more he could preen and tell himself that he was "the Man."
Add to that the fact that all his wives could and did play the welfare and bankruptcy game so well that HE didn't have to "work"....as in secure a reliable, upward moving job with which to provide a sufficient income for his family as his main priority.
Oh Yeah, Kody sure was *loving* his wives.
That was a really awful attempt at being "funny" throwing in the PMS part. Really?? I doubt he deals with PMS from anyone, he just bounces on to the next. Oops that time of the month, no rotation for you.
DeleteI have been posting anonymously, but the universe gave me a moniker last night--thanks to this thread. I am going to change my name to "nightmeri" once I remember how. I had a dream that Sobbin went after my hubby next. During their courtship, I was the "chaperone" and had to attend their "dates" (she made them wear matching shirts). She even went to family gatherings with my in-laws as if she had just as much right to claim them as her family as I did. The scariest part--my husband (in the dream) would just look at me with that blank Kody stare, not comprehending why I could not embrace Sobbin and her cold sores as my new sister wife. I was somehow deficient for feeling jealous. In my real life, I am a horror writer and that dream really gave me some material! No more reading this blog before bed!
ReplyDeleteNightmeri
Nightmeri - sounds like your dreams were my reality! As a first wife, I felt as though I had been the victim of an identity thief. Only difference from your nightmare was that my husband at least had the intelligence to understand why I was finding it hard - but there were plenty of those "blank Kody stares" in my community.In the views of the empty headed - polygamy was straight from God and perfectly natural, so only an "unrighteous" and insufficiently advanced woman would have problems with it. "Somehow deficient" is right. That's why so many women in polygamy won't 'fess up to their real feelings.
ReplyDeleteI can imagine the feeling of identity theft, ex plyg. When I woke up, I felt much more sympathy toward Christine and her difficulties with Robin. The real horror is the concept that these very real and very normal feelings: jealousy, competition, inadequacy are treated as something to be "hidden" or ashamed of.
ReplyDeleteEx Ply--your insight into this is invaluable. Thank you for being a part of the blog, and sharing.
DeleteI know that jealousy is an accurate description of one of the many things sister wives feel.But I keep getting hung up on how it is such a vilifying term. Envy and jealousy are deadly sins, right? Using those terms specifically is yet another way that these women are dehumanized by their culture.
I wish these women felt free to say, "When he was courting his next wife, I was afraid. I was afraid I would lose my protector, lover, and friend." Jealousy is in there two, but fear....fear is not a sin.
Or maybe, "When he brought the next wife into the family I was hurt. I hadn't been enough for him, even though he had to be enough for me. I was hurt and sad." Pain and sadness aren't sins. I think I remember Christine saying this, but first wife Meri keeps dredging up jealousy, the "sin" instead of the other feelings that are surely driving their actions and very real, honest, and natural.
Anyway. I'm just chewing on these thoughts, not trying to propose we all change how we talk about them. After all, we're just discussing what they show us in their words, and their contradictory actions.
Yes, thank you ex plyg.
DeleteI couldn't have said it better, Traci. Human emotions and reactions are very complex and not "black or white." But they come from a culture of "keeping sweet" which has no grey areas whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteI seriously regret reading this blog post. It is so petty and so uncalled for. In my opinion Robyn is sweet and sincere. All the things you mention Robyn getting from Kody are all things that the other wives had with as many kids as possible. Seeing as how this baby could be the only one they will have together I really don't feel the need to be petty about Kody helping Robyn out with a crib and have the other women helping Christine, after all that is what they looove so much about their sisterhood. I agree Robyn cries a lot but maybe she's just that kind of person. At least she seems honest.
ReplyDeleteWhy do I even care?
Why do YOU even care??
I think you may have wandered into the wrong living room, but I appreciate your opinion. I'm sorry you regret visiting us today. I'm sure you must be on your way. Please, allow me to show you to the door...
DeleteThanks for dropping by!
And, you should read posting rules... you may agree to disagree, but not call names. Name calling always makes the poster no better! Ironic you don't like a post talking about someone else, then you do the same thing. Petty. Hope you find a blog that fits you!
DeleteNightmeri, Ex Pyg and Traci, you make such excellent points. The founders of this principle, I'm sure, deliberately CHOSE to use this language to describe the very natural feelings provoked by it. What better way to shame women into accepting polygamy, to keep them quiet about their feelings? How can they possibly be exalted if they're guilty of these sins?
ReplyDeleteI'm reading Irene Spencer's Shattered Dreams right now and this very thought jumped out at me as I read her description of her husband's reaction to her feelings (she was about 17 at the time). There were three wives and two bedrooms. The new third wife would sleep with whoever else's night it wasn't. Irene wanted some space of her own and her husband said she'd never learn to deal with her *faults* (jealousy, envy and anger) if she didn't face them everyday.
Mormon polygamy is beautifully designed to celebrate the 'sins' of men (pridefulness, greed, lust, selfishness and so on) and demonize women for theirs. Keep sweet is so very convenient.
"The founders of this principle, I'm sure, deliberately CHOSE to use this language to describe the very natural feelings provoked by it. What better way to shame women into accepting polygamy, to keep them quiet about their feelings? How can they possibly be exalted if they're guilty of these sins?"
DeleteThis point is generic to the whole issue of what polygamy does to the psyche and soul of the women of polygamy. They strive to be devout, they strive to live their assigned role, they strive to be "exalted" in the stated process. Yet, their very human-ness is a built-in liability and impediment to achieving that end.
"Mormon polygamy is beautifully designed to celebrate the 'sins' of men (pridefulness, greed, lust, selfishness and so on) and demonize women for theirs."
In this modern day, it shouldn't be necessary to overplay the gender card, but in this form of polygamy, women are NOT viewed with respect or dignity.
These women (mothers) must cater and defer sometimes even at the cost of their own children's benefit, not only to the lord and master man of the family, but also to his other wives. Polygamous religions operate under the assumption that women *are designed* for such a life arrangement...lest they be banned from heaven.
I can only hope and pray that more and more wives/mothers choose to leave such a life.
You know, this blog provides lots of smiles and harmless fun. People who write here are often incredibly witty, so I frequently laugh when reading. I also find that there are some people who really seem to "get" polygamy. Today's comments from Nightmeri, Run, Plyglets, Run! and Amused, show some deep insights and understanding. Thank you CJ and Mister Sister for providing this forum.
DeleteOh, and I forgot to mention Traci's comments too. Thank you everyone!
DeleteI highly recommend the book written by Flora Jessup. I do not remember the title but she got out of polygamy but almost lost her life doing so. It is a true story and very revealing about that lifestyle.
DeleteCould Kody have legally married Robyn? Do we know for certain that Meri is the only legally married wife? The reason I ask this is because in 2001 in the Utah Supreme Court it was State v Green. He was convicted of criminal non support and four counts of bigamy for having 5 monogamous marriages while living with previously divorced wives.
ReplyDeleteWhat he did was marry, give the wife his name, divorce and continue on to the next one etc. It had never occurred to me that they might do that. I'm sure someone has probably already checked this out but I was shocked that is what some of them do. Learn something new everyday. Wouldn't Robyn like that if she was the official Mrs. It is probably cheaper than a name change.
Could Kody have legally married Robyn?
DeleteKody is legally married to Meri. He would have to divorce Meri in order to legally marry Robyn.
Do we know for certain that Meri is the only legally married wife?
Yes we do. He was investigated by law enforcement shortly after Sister Wives premiered on TLC. Their conclusion was that, outside of practicing plural marriage, no other felonies were being committed. Their investigation was later closed. That was not the case when Tom Green was investigated, who, among other things, was convicted of child rape for impregnating a 13 year old girl who later became his legal wife. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Green_(polygamist)
Wouldn't Robyn like that if she was the official Mrs.
Robyn may like to be the legal Mrs Brown but I doubt Meri is willing to give up being the legal Mrs Brown.
It is probably cheaper than a name change.
No, I think you're wrong on that one. Something tells me Kody would be spending a lot of money in attorney fees if he tried to divorce Meri. I just don't see her going for that without a huge legal fight.
Thanks CJ. I knew that you would know.
DeleteWhy doesn't Utah decide once and for all weather or not they will allow plural marriage? If yes, legalise and procecute all abuses the same way monogamous abusive relationships are procecuted, if not then say so. I just feel it's so unfair to force all the plural families to live in a grey area.
DeletePS love the blog, though my first comment I'm a long-time admirer!! :)
If only it were so black and white they would. It's not black and white there is a huge grey area. I work in law enforcement in Utah. It's against the law, but very hard to prosecute trying to investigate would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars per case. It's a very tangled web and when you throw religious rights in there it's an even darker grey area. Proving Kody is the father and the relationships would be costly. How do you prove spiritual marriages? There's not legal papers. So the prosecute the ones where underage girls are involved. Regarding other types of abuse is difficult often victims recant their stories for fear of worse abuse, even in "normal" everyday relationships. In polygamist sects/relationships they tend to do everything possible to avoid drawing much attention to themselves. Let alone calling the police when there is a problem. Keep sweet, stay OFF the radar.
DeleteI want to know when we are going to raise our daughters to know they do not have to share their man and that they deserve a person who will love them and only them. When will they stop passing down keep sweet, and start saying hell no I am not okay with you sleeping with another woman- let alone 3 or 4! If that's what will get me into heaven I don't want to be there! I hope that all these women lose weight, find some self esteem and leave his worthless butt. No I'm not going to "obey" you, I have my own mind and screw ya! I'm out of here and I'm taking my children with me. I seen Christine at Costco a while back here in Utah every part of me wanted to go tell her she deserves better. I'd rather see her as a single mom working and on welfare than how it is now.
Women reading this: You are amazing, beautiful, talented women and you deserve a man who will love and respect you and you do not have to share that with another woman! If he's cheating or abusing you kick him to the curb you will have to work harder than ever but you can do it! There are amazing programs that will help you go back to school! Just make the decision to love yourself enough to stand up and say I DESERVE BETTER! Then walk out! I don't need sister wives I can have best friends they will help me with my children and they won't sleep with my future husband.
Jessica, I like your insight and agree with you. It sure isn't black and white and one question always begs another.
DeleteThere's an accepting attitude to polygamy in Utah. It seems like it's really not that shocking or strange. As an east coaster, I just don't get it. I remember when Elizabeth Smith was kidnapped and would walk around Salt Lake City wearing a face scarf and long dress in the company of her kidnappers -- and no one thought anything of this! She went to a party in this garb. People didn't think it was odd. Believe me, this would not fly in NYC. It's the same with the Sister Wives. The cultural attitude in this part of the country wouldn't support it. Yes multiple women get pregnant by the same dude, but nobody pretends it's some kind of mutually agreed upon shared marriage.
DeleteQuestion: Does Robyn's sister live with Robyn?
ReplyDeleteIf the answer is yes...then why the heck didn't she do her hair. I believe she went to school and was trained to do hair.
I say Robyn's blog is a bunch of hogwash!!
Perhaps the monogamous beautician IS Robyn's sister....
DeleteSomehow I think it was pretty easy for Sobbin's so-called "sister" to leave her and move on out of state to greener pastures than her live-in babysitter in Vegas. I base that on the fact that she's not Robyn's sister. She's her former stepsister. She and Robyn don't have a parent in common PLUS Robyn's mother nor the former stepsister's father are either one married to the same people that made them stepsisters at one time to begin with! :D
ReplyDeleteHow can someone be a former stepsister?
DeleteShe and Robyn don't have a parent in common PLUS Robyn's mother nor the former stepsister's father are either one married to the same people that made them stepsisters at one time to begin with!
Oh...my head!!!!!
Good thing this topic is about Robyn and her blog... and NOT about Taralyce!
PS... I think Taralyce does resemble Robyn's mother and Paul Sullivan !!
Re: how people could be former stepsisters: Robin's mother marries man with daughter (Taralyce?) then after a time they divorce and Robin and Taralyce no longer tecchnically stepsisters. Tangled blended families happen even in monogamy.
DeleteHow interesting would it be if Taralyce becomes wife number 5 ? It could happen : ) How crazzzzey do you think Robyn would get. We all think Christine is jealous, Robyn would be through the roof. How interesting would it be if Robyn got with child again, and Kody decided to marry again, and went on a two week honey-moon leaving Robyn home with the sister-wives.
DeleteRobbin's blog reminds me of that whole Seinfeld episode where George Costanza came up with a comeback to a burn in a meeting a few days later. He traveled half way across the country to deliver his counter-burn. Thing was his was so lame, and the original dude threw it right back in his face and he looked like an idiot all over again.
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hahaha.
Just goes to tell you that timing is what it is all about. later on and it's just not there.
This whole letter/situation strikes me a weird, I do not have a TLC contract, live in a McMansion or have an open credit line to Victoria Secrets, HOWEVER, Only 1, I repeat 1 person touches my hair and that has been several years running. I do not think any of those ladies are going to the local franchise chain hair stylist, after all, if I remember correctly wasn't there any episode that features Meri and Kody's stylist?
ReplyDeleteI believe her. I had an idiot hairdresser make a comment to me eighteen years ago that I still remember. I was age eighteen (I looked about fourteen) and visibly pregnant. She asked me if it was from a "one night stand?" Some people are just rude and I have no idea what makes them think they can talk to people like they do. I was too shocked and not confident enough to give her a piece of my mind. I just told her that I was pregnant with my boyfriend of four years and that we were getting married soon. I should have told her to shove it and left. I am not a fan of Robyn, but I do believe her.
ReplyDeleteAll four sister wives delude themselves that a quarter of the narcissist Kody pie is a good deal, despite Kody never assuming they could bring in other husbands. Robyn-come-lately would kill if Kody took a fifth wife and stole her thunder. All four wives seem like incomplete women who have settled and told themselves they have enough. Just my observation. The kids seem OK but torn in too many directions from these adults.
ReplyDeleteI wanted to make a comment about the ugly expensive jewelry that the Sister Wives are selling. They really can't figure out why people aren't buying this crap? Plus, it annoys me that they use Claddagh Rings as a symbol of their relationships. I'm of Irish heritage and my grannies in Ireland wore these rings.
ReplyDeleteWhen the website for My Sister's Closet first went up, there was jewelry (that they designed) that seemed very similar to the Claddagh design. Can't these morons come up with their own unique designs?
Also, I want to say that I really like the kids, especially Logan and his brothers. Mariah is the exception but Meri raised her to be self centered just like herself. I was shocked that a Christian woman could be so selfish in demanding a huge house for herself basically, Mariah will be gone soon if everyone is lucky. So there's another mortgage for this cash strapped family. Shameful behavior, she should have had an inlaw apt at Robyn's house .
I'm happy that I found this blog and that I'm not the only one who thinks that Robyn is always crying, Meri complaining, Christine is ready to explode from jealousy over Robyn, and Janelle just wondering why she got into this?
One of my best friends for years on the job was a very proud Irish. She doesn't watch the show, but does come here to read. (I've since moved) She called me to tell me of her displeasure! I mean she was hot.
DeleteI never understood why they chose that either. I don't understand why they think they have to make their own. Obviously they are no designers. I hope they don't sink too much money into this.
Micro bead hair extensions is an individual strand application. Your own hair will be slid through a tiny 4 centimeter bead.
ReplyDeleteLas Vegas bridal hair and makeup
These sisters are so pathetic. It is not normal to share a husband . This is just another cult where the women are the underdogs.The only ones getting anything from this arrangement is Cody.He needs to get a job and support them and the children. . If you need your husband to help in the house he would have to make a list of demands. Then take them one at a time.Really not a good plan and not the life a woman wants to live.
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