In 2011, the Sister Wives Blog started out as a place to talk about the TLC reality show "Sister Wives", Kody Brown and his wives Christine, Robyn, Meri and Janelle. Today we not only discuss the show, we discuss Polygamy in our society, and the public perceptions of the Mormon Religion. We discuss "Polygamy USA" and will be covering "My 5 Wives." This blog is geared towards the adult reader, so please, no one under the age of 18 years. Thank you!
I am so pleased I found this, I have been looking for it!! Maybe if I get enough clicks, I can get better internet and search easier!! Love to you all!
I can go to bed now, I can't wait to see comments tomorrow!
I love Anne Wilde's comment about her husband being such a blessing that she was willing to share him with other women. She totally glosses over (lies!) about the fact that once his first wife left, she never had to share him with anyone again.
Anne Wilde married Ogden Kraut as his second wife, and Kraut's first wife left several years later. Anne is described as "the dominant wife in the marriage" by John Llewellyn. In one of his books, John Llewellyn, a close friend of Ogden Kraut and Anne commented that Anne Wilde did express jealousy when her husband took another wife. An elderly widow requested that Ogden Kraut marry her for his "priesthood services" to call her "beyond the veil" in the afterlife into the Celestial Kingdom. Sexual relations were not involved as this new wife was post - menopausal, it was simply a marriage to guarantee her entrance into the Celestial Kingdom as a plural wife. Llewellyn related that Mr. Kraut said he was getting a "rough time" from Anne about his new marriage which had nothing to do with love or sexuality.
If you would like to read some of the books that Anne Wilde co-authored with Ogden Kraut, here is a great link where you can read them for free online -http://ogdenkraut.com/bookavailability.html
Long time reader, never poster. I know MS, she's a really good woman in a really down time. She started this blog b/c she liked the Browns, and thought the show was sweet. She was disturbed by the Mormon chruch after learning about it, and now is REALLY obsessed with women finding out, b/c she knows all about abuse. (don't kill me ms) Her mind and the tide of this blog has totally turned because of her fear of others being abused. To all that are PRO Browns, it's not that she has a thing against them, it's what they stand for that upsets her.Seeing this, thinking about the sweet little song they play in the beginning, sickens me. I am mean, I'll say it, this Mormon stuff is a bunch of crazy messed up psychopathic stuff made up by a true sicko to please his "loaf of bread" and if you look, it's based on the Masonic Temple stuff which is such a true joke. He couldn't even make up new handshakes? Kudos to ms for putting the time in to try to be fair, but show the hyprocisy of of all time, and making Kody a horrible narcissist. Anyone that is in an abusive relationship like this often doesn't even understand they are in one. They need a de-brainwashing camp.
Boy, that BBC correspondent didn't know what can of worms he was starting, now did he? The Attorney General wasn't going to let Kody be arrested, and it sucks what they are doing to him
If I were Attorney General Mark, I'd throw Kody in the slammer the next time he pulled up in one of those leased cars they drive. Where did they get those from, and why aren't they seen on the show? there were 4 black ones, nice cars, up here last time.
Is thi the Kody show or the Anne Wilde fantasy tour?
Thanks, interesting. I bet Meri and Janelle about shit when they got home and found out about this.
They are so far up that old bitches butt Kody probably scratches it for her.Change it to the Christine Anne and Kody wild west tour!
I gleaned these links from a tv site posting:Meeting Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpY2oTFFWks Arizona News Coverage of the Summit Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwYE3mErLo&NR=1 Unofficial AUB discussion group on Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon-AUB/ AUB Profile, includes some downloads of things like priesthood charts. http://ldsmovement.pbworks.com/w/page/15644061/Apostolic-United-Brethren The book, Polygamy under Attack , has a bit of input on the AUB and women in the AUB. Some excellent excerpts to be found @ Utah Books: http://utahbooks.com/Polygamy_Groups.htm The old AUB site is down. It seems AUB site portions *may* have been absorbed into the Mormon Fundamentalism site: http://www.mormonfundamentalism.com/index.html Apparently, The Brown Family had their own YouTube channel at one time, that featured a variety of video's on the family and polygamy. The YouTube page the video links tohttp://www.youtube.com/user/Bonratay The Polygamy Files Q & A with the Brown's: http://www.tribblogs.com/polygamyfile/2009/07/qa-with-the-browns/ The Brown Family Video that was referenced in the Q & A @ Polygamy Files: http://www.tribblogs.com/polygamyfile/2009/06/the-brown-family-video/
i found a link to this blog on a tv site and im glad i came to check it out. i have seen so many people try to tell the truth about FLDS and this family on tv sites and TLC only to have that info blocked and removed. its nice to have an open place like this blog. the browns dont share what they believe but lead viewers like the pied piper.anways there are plenty of sites that are pro Browns pro polygamy or whatever where no one can say an honest thing so it is great to come here and read and share without consequence. we have choices and a voice here no matter what side we are on that other sites wont allow and plenty of informative people that share a lot of great info.the browns shouldve and coulde been fair and honest with their viewers but they weren't so here we all are and i dont think the blog creator or readers should be criticized for being honest or having their own opinions
Well Thanks! Anonymous and welcome! Yes, we try to be open and honest, and just trying to figure things out like you. We look forward to your comments!
So this is what started the whole she-bang? THANKS for finding it!
The BBC just had to start this up.Kody did fairly well in his "first" appearance.
It's very sad that Mykelti and Mariah said they were going into it. I loved when Mykelti said she had a couple of years to think about it- you could see the implication on Kodys face of, OH SHIT, that's not what we want to say! LOL LOL.Maddie is certain, she's been steadfast for years. They never ask the boys, do they? I am sure Logan and Hunter are in, the rest, dunno.Poor Dayton will be ran off.
Found this on Wikipedia : According to one former member, John Llewellyn, "plural wives of AUB men are sent into nearby Hamilton to apply for welfare as single mothers. The informant reported that welfare checks are often taken directly to the priesthood leaders."
I had to watch this again. I HATE to say it, but Christine and Kody were very natural and did a good job.
I still would like to see, in writing, what happens to the boys in post on this blog.
I loved this when I saw it years ago! I knew they were meant to stand out and fight for what they believed in. It would be best for them, however, to keep Anne Wilde out of the picture. just because she believes Jesus had 3 wives, doesn't mean all of the AUB does. She goes overboard, and then becomes unbelievable.
This so troubles me:Afterwards, Kody Brown and Anne Wilde mingled with Mr Cantrel and with Mark Shurtleff, Utah's larger-than-life attorney general, his suit jacket bulging because of the sidearm he carried after getting death threats from a much more extreme group of polygamists. Mark Shurleff has tried to be more than fair and empathetic. What is he getting for it? Death threat? Is that how the FLDS do it? Break commandments?I would like to hear from a polygamist how they feel about this-
Cool find, I bet from that moment on, Kodaouche was ready for "Lights, Camera, Action!"
**The BBC just had to start this up.**Oh sure, blame the British. I suppose next ya'll will start whining about having to drink tea because coffee is too expensive. ;-p
Those Damn Brits!
It was interesting to see how it all got started. Thanks MS.
Can't you see Kodauche after that, OH yeah, that's that were gonna do to make money, be a STAR!
Just looking back at older blog posts tonight--I am fairly new to this site and love it-great job! I have commented anonymously a few times as well where I have seen fit. Anyways, this BBC clip of Kody is actually very telling and intriguing. First of all I am utterly SHOCKED at how THIN everyone is! I mean since they hit the airwaves their collective weights have literally doubled-adults and teens! Meri and Janelle must have been at work because they are clearly missing. Also, I have not seen Christine so happy as she is here, on ANY episode of sister wives. Maddie and Mariah look beautiful and Aspyn doesn't look pregnant. Hunter looks like a happy tween playing board games.. Maddie states as she also has recently that she would not enter a polygamist lifestyle, as for Mariah still sort of committed. Watching Kody and Christine interact back then is totally reminiscent of watching Kody and Robyn,today.I hope you refresh this post/clip and give it a "re-up" because I think many people new to this blog just won't see it. It portrays a much more peaceful and happier family "sans Robyn..." It actually makes me feel really sorry for the whole family unit- adults included with exception to Robyn of course and it truly shows that she just may be the catalyst in the ultimate destruction of this family. I hate to say it but even Kody seems kind of likeable(ewwww).Thanks for your consideration.
Thank you Anonymous in Canada!Great suggestion about "refreshing" this posting so newer readers can enjoy. Since we are in reminisce mode right now, I'll "bump" this post so others can enjoy...again!
wow, it really annoys me when people, (not just fundamentalist Mormons, but other religions) claim what's in the Bible is historical fact, None of these people have studied the history of the old and new testament. So what if it were true that Jesus was married, and to 3 women? He would have been doing what was socially acceptable to that time! Are we to go back to stoning people for crimes, too? Incidentally, the Catholics use a similar argument for celibate and male priests: saying Jesus WASN't married and was man, so.....
Catholic priests were allowed to marry until the 12th century
Anonymous 2:04 Some good links there, thanks. It seems that Christine has been involved in pro poly stuff for awhile along with the Dargers.These women talking about how great it is. It makes me wonder. Are any of them just happy to get the ass they married out of their own bed and into someone else's? Seems like adding another wife would be an easy way to rid yourself of the husband and his sperm. Just sayin hehe
Every religion is based on making money in one way or another. That's why having lots of believers is so important to most religions of the world. I have to say that Christine looked really cool, calm and collected and the kids looked happy and comfortable. It's amazing what a couple short years in the spotlight will do to a family. I wonder if Robyn ever sees this old footage and feels really guilty. I think Kody is a total shiester.
I disagree. GOD is not based on making money.
If you don't know who Anne Wilder is-she's a REAL kook, blasphemous book writer and Christine's buddy.
Great find! Glad you brought it back up front, I'd would have not viewed it otherwise. Thank you.
@Anon 4:00You're right whatever God or the Devine may be is not based on money but spirituality however God in the context of organized religion is ALL based on money. It is a manmade construct for economic and political gain.
That Anne Wilde looks scary ! Like a witch used to scare the children to go to bed... Thanks for the re-post ! I checked the links posted by Anony and it's very interesting to see considering the situation now.....How can you choose the Browns to go to war for your organization ? Seems pretty desperate !
The post from Canada mentioned "Maddie." Who's Maddie????
Maddie is Madison Brown, Janelle and Kody's 15 yr old child.
Kody's hair has certainly gotten a makeover! XD
Great piece, got to start surfing through here more - the oldies.
VeryInteresting, they are much more involed in the church than I thought
re watching old videos today. Anyone notice Mrs. Darger in the Anne Wilde Video?
Very interesting stuff.
I agree. I can't get enough of the beginnings.
Interesting stuff! LUV THIS BLOG!
I am so pleased I found this, I have been looking for it!! Maybe if I get enough clicks, I can get better internet and search easier!! Love to you all!
ReplyDeleteI can go to bed now, I can't wait to see comments tomorrow!
ReplyDeleteI love Anne Wilde's comment about her husband being such a blessing that she was willing to share him with other women. She totally glosses over (lies!) about the fact that once his first wife left, she never had to share him with anyone again.
ReplyDeleteAnne Wilde married Ogden Kraut as his second wife, and Kraut's first wife left several years later. Anne is described as "the dominant wife in the marriage" by John Llewellyn. In one of his books, John Llewellyn, a close friend of Ogden Kraut and Anne commented that Anne Wilde did express jealousy when her husband took another wife. An elderly widow requested that Ogden Kraut marry her for his "priesthood services" to call her "beyond the veil" in the afterlife into the Celestial Kingdom. Sexual relations were not involved as this new wife was post - menopausal, it was simply a marriage to guarantee her entrance into the Celestial Kingdom as a plural wife. Llewellyn related that Mr. Kraut said he was getting a "rough time" from Anne about his new marriage which had nothing to do with love or sexuality.
ReplyDeleteIf you would like to read some of the books that Anne Wilde co-authored with Ogden Kraut, here is a great link where you can read them for free online -
ReplyDeletehttp://ogdenkraut.com/bookavailability.html
Long time reader, never poster. I know MS, she's a really good woman in a really down time. She started this blog b/c she liked the Browns, and thought the show was sweet. She was disturbed by the Mormon chruch after learning about it, and now is REALLY obsessed with women finding out, b/c she knows all about abuse. (don't kill me ms) Her mind and the tide of this blog has totally turned because of her fear of others being abused. To all that are PRO Browns, it's not that she has a thing against them, it's what they stand for that upsets her.
ReplyDeleteSeeing this, thinking about the sweet little song they play in the beginning, sickens me. I am mean, I'll say it, this Mormon stuff is a bunch of crazy messed up psychopathic stuff made up by a true sicko to please his "loaf of bread" and if you look, it's based on the Masonic Temple stuff which is such a true joke. He couldn't even make up new handshakes? Kudos to ms for putting the time in to try to be fair, but show the hyprocisy of of all time, and making Kody a horrible narcissist. Anyone that is in an abusive relationship like this often doesn't even understand they are in one. They need a de-brainwashing camp.
Boy, that BBC correspondent didn't know what can of worms he was starting, now did he?
ReplyDeleteThe Attorney General wasn't going to let Kody be arrested, and it sucks what they are doing to him
If I were Attorney General Mark, I'd throw Kody in the slammer the next time he pulled up in one of those leased cars they drive. Where did they get those from, and why aren't they seen on the show? there were 4 black ones, nice cars, up here last time.
ReplyDeleteIs thi the Kody show or the Anne Wilde fantasy tour?
ReplyDeleteThanks, interesting. I bet Meri and Janelle about shit when they got home and found out about this.
ReplyDeleteThey are so far up that old bitches butt Kody probably scratches it for her.
ReplyDeleteChange it to the Christine Anne and Kody wild west tour!
I gleaned these links from a tv site posting:
ReplyDeleteMeeting Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpY2oTFFWks
Arizona News Coverage of the Summit Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwYE3mErLo&NR=1
Unofficial AUB discussion group on Yahoo:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mormon-AUB/
AUB Profile, includes some downloads of things like priesthood charts.
http://ldsmovement.pbworks.com/w/page/15644061/Apostolic-United-Brethren
The book, Polygamy under Attack , has a bit of input on the AUB and women in the AUB.
Some excellent excerpts to be found @ Utah Books:
http://utahbooks.com/Polygamy_Groups.htm
The old AUB site is down. It seems AUB site portions *may* have been absorbed into the Mormon Fundamentalism site:
http://www.mormonfundamentalism.com/index.html
Apparently, The Brown Family had their own YouTube channel at one time, that featured a variety of video's on the family and polygamy.
The YouTube page the video links to
http://www.youtube.com/user/Bonratay
The Polygamy Files Q & A with the Brown's:
http://www.tribblogs.com/polygamyfile/2009/07/qa-with-the-browns/
The Brown Family Video that was referenced in the Q & A @ Polygamy Files:
http://www.tribblogs.com/polygamyfile/2009/06/the-brown-family-video/
i found a link to this blog on a tv site and im glad i came to check it out. i have seen so many people try to tell the truth about FLDS and this family on tv sites and TLC only to have that info blocked and removed.
ReplyDeleteits nice to have an open place like this blog. the browns dont share what they believe but lead viewers like the pied piper.
anways there are plenty of sites that are pro Browns pro polygamy or whatever where no one can say an honest thing so it is great to come here and read and share without consequence.
we have choices and a voice here no matter what side we are on that other sites wont allow and plenty of informative people that share a lot of great info.
the browns shouldve and coulde been fair and honest with their viewers but they weren't so here we all are and i dont think the blog creator or readers should be criticized for being honest or having their own opinions
Well Thanks! Anonymous and welcome! Yes, we try to be open and honest, and just trying to figure things out like you. We look forward to your comments!
ReplyDeleteSo this is what started the whole she-bang? THANKS for finding it!
ReplyDeleteThe BBC just had to start this up.
ReplyDeleteKody did fairly well in his "first" appearance.
It's very sad that Mykelti and Mariah said they were going into it. I loved when Mykelti said she had a couple of years to think about it- you could see the implication on Kodys face of, OH SHIT, that's not what we want to say! LOL LOL.
ReplyDeleteMaddie is certain, she's been steadfast for years. They never ask the boys, do they? I am sure Logan and Hunter are in, the rest, dunno.
Poor Dayton will be ran off.
Found this on Wikipedia : According to one former member, John Llewellyn, "plural wives of AUB men are sent into nearby Hamilton to apply for welfare as single mothers. The informant reported that welfare checks are often taken directly to the priesthood leaders."
ReplyDeleteI had to watch this again. I HATE to say it, but Christine and Kody were very natural and did a good job.
ReplyDeleteI still would like to see, in writing, what happens to the boys in post on this blog.
ReplyDeleteI loved this when I saw it years ago! I knew they were meant to stand out and fight for what they believed in. It would be best for them, however, to keep Anne Wilde out of the picture. just because she believes Jesus had 3 wives, doesn't mean all of the AUB does. She goes overboard, and then becomes unbelievable.
ReplyDeleteThis so troubles me:
ReplyDeleteAfterwards, Kody Brown and Anne Wilde mingled with Mr Cantrel and with Mark Shurtleff, Utah's larger-than-life attorney general, his suit jacket bulging because of the sidearm he carried after getting death threats from a much more extreme group of polygamists.
Mark Shurleff has tried to be more than fair and empathetic. What is he getting for it? Death threat? Is that how the FLDS do it? Break commandments?
I would like to hear from a polygamist how they feel about this-
Cool find, I bet from that moment on, Kodaouche was ready for "Lights, Camera, Action!"
ReplyDelete**The BBC just had to start this up.**
ReplyDeleteOh sure, blame the British. I suppose next ya'll will start whining about having to drink tea because coffee is too expensive. ;-p
Those Damn Brits!
ReplyDeleteIt was interesting to see how it all got started. Thanks MS.
ReplyDeleteCan't you see Kodauche after that, OH yeah, that's that were gonna do to make money, be a STAR!
ReplyDeleteJust looking back at older blog posts tonight--I am fairly new to this site and love it-great job! I have commented anonymously a few times as well where I have seen fit.
ReplyDeleteAnyways, this BBC clip of Kody is actually very telling and intriguing. First of all I am utterly SHOCKED at how THIN everyone is! I mean since they hit the airwaves their collective weights have literally doubled-adults and teens! Meri and Janelle must have been at work because they are clearly missing. Also, I have not seen Christine so happy as she is here, on ANY episode of sister wives. Maddie and Mariah look beautiful and Aspyn doesn't look pregnant. Hunter looks like a happy tween playing board games.. Maddie states as she also has recently that she would not enter a polygamist lifestyle, as for Mariah still sort of committed.
Watching Kody and Christine interact back then is totally reminiscent of watching Kody and Robyn,today.
I hope you refresh this post/clip and give it a "re-up" because I think many people new to this blog just won't see it. It portrays a much more peaceful and happier family "sans Robyn..."
It actually makes me feel really sorry for the whole family unit- adults included with exception to Robyn of course and it truly shows that she just may be the catalyst in the ultimate destruction of this family. I hate to say it but even Kody seems kind of likeable(ewwww).
Thanks for your consideration.
Thank you Anonymous in Canada!
ReplyDeleteGreat suggestion about "refreshing" this posting so newer readers can enjoy. Since we are in reminisce mode right now, I'll "bump" this post so others can enjoy...again!
wow, it really annoys me when people, (not just fundamentalist Mormons, but other religions) claim what's in the Bible is historical fact, None of these people have studied the history of the old and new testament. So what if it were true that Jesus was married, and to 3 women? He would have been doing what was socially acceptable to that time! Are we to go back to stoning people for crimes, too? Incidentally, the Catholics use a similar argument for celibate and male priests: saying Jesus WASN't married and was man, so.....
ReplyDeleteCatholic priests were allowed to marry until the 12th century
DeleteAnonymous 2:04 Some good links there, thanks.
ReplyDeleteIt seems that Christine has been involved in pro poly stuff for awhile along with the Dargers.
These women talking about how great it is. It makes me wonder. Are any of them just happy to get the ass they married out of their own bed and into someone else's? Seems like adding another wife would be an easy way to rid yourself of the husband and his sperm. Just sayin hehe
Every religion is based on making money in one way or another. That's why having lots of believers is so important to most religions of the world. I have to say that Christine looked really cool, calm and collected and the kids looked happy and comfortable. It's amazing what a couple short years in the spotlight will do to a family. I wonder if Robyn ever sees this old footage and feels really guilty. I think Kody is a total shiester.
ReplyDeleteI disagree. GOD is not based on making money.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't know who Anne Wilder is-she's a REAL kook, blasphemous book writer and Christine's buddy.
ReplyDeleteGreat find! Glad you brought it back up front, I'd would have not viewed it otherwise. Thank you.
ReplyDelete@Anon 4:00
ReplyDeleteYou're right whatever God or the Devine may be is not based on money but spirituality however God in the context of organized religion is ALL based on money. It is a manmade construct for economic and political gain.
That Anne Wilde looks scary ! Like a witch used to scare the children to go to bed... Thanks for the re-post ! I checked the links posted by Anony and it's very interesting to see considering the situation now.....How can you choose the Browns to go to war for your organization ? Seems pretty desperate !
ReplyDeleteThe post from Canada mentioned "Maddie." Who's Maddie????
ReplyDeleteMaddie is Madison Brown, Janelle and Kody's 15 yr old child.
ReplyDeleteKody's hair has certainly gotten a makeover! XD
ReplyDeleteGreat piece, got to start surfing through here more - the oldies.
ReplyDeleteVeryInteresting, they are much more involed in the church than I thought
ReplyDeletere watching old videos today. Anyone notice Mrs. Darger in the Anne Wilde Video?
ReplyDeleteVery interesting stuff.
ReplyDeleteI agree. I can't get enough of the beginnings.
ReplyDeleteInteresting stuff! LUV THIS BLOG!
ReplyDelete