tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post8976351896096634316..comments2024-02-10T00:09:14.970-05:00Comments on Sister Wives Blog: Is 'Sister Wives' Hiding The Disturbing Truth About Polygamy?Mister Sisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-17039413943537154882013-02-05T20:45:08.685-05:002013-02-05T20:45:08.685-05:00Informative Article. I've seen Sam on TV, and ...Informative Article. I've seen Sam on TV, and he strikes me as an honest, down to earth man. the last paragraph should be read by all:<br />Perhaps Kody Brown and his family, and for that matter the entire cult he adheres to, are otherwise completely benign, law-abiding citizens. I don't really know enough about their present circumstances to make that call. But I do know where their group came from. Their leadership sprang from the same roots as the FLDS church. In the polygamous cultures I have learned about and witnessed, there is a volatile mix of religious extremism and blind obedience and one of the components that propagates the secrecy and need for "privacy" is polygamy. When most legitimate religious groups are eager to reach out and share the ideas and beliefs they hold dear, the Browns have been hesitant to even mention just exactly what religious group they're a part of. And when people like the Browns attempt to legitimize, and glamorize their illegal lifestyle by staging a very public piece of entertainment, it sends chills down my spine. And rightly so; I hope many more will share my response after taking the time to educate themselves and learn about the child abuse that is a part of many polygamous cultures.<br /><br />Intersting, thought provoking. And yes, they are from the same FLDS roots, and still breaking the law. (Judas Priest song comes to mind here. - Kody running, it playing)<br />thank you for posting educational and thought provoking posts as well as the fun stuff. Best blog on the web!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-77182202654955964222011-12-18T20:41:17.708-05:002011-12-18T20:41:17.708-05:00I cringe when Kody says "love should be multi...I cringe when Kody says "love should be multiplied and not divided." I am an English major and even I know that one divided by three is called division not multiplication. What about those poor kids? They had a special about college where one of the kids said, "of course, they would pay their own expenses for college." My guess is that in actuality the tax payers will pay. This is not an atmosphere that nurtures and values each individual in a family. It is testosterone gone amok. Kody looks more like a strutting rooster than a husband or father. Polygamy should no more be legalized in America than slavery should be reinstated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-81046371076413584812011-11-07T00:10:13.741-05:002011-11-07T00:10:13.741-05:00Ok I don't get it.Here they are on TV whining ...Ok I don't get it.Here they are on TV whining about persecution and what not...I don't see anybody in jail.I'm very worried about the children since they are brainwashed in to this lifestyle.Another thing,why do the men get multible wifes? Where is the equality,why can't the women have multible husbands?So much for equal partners!Sickening, it really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-82460188001799724162011-11-06T23:44:32.724-05:002011-11-06T23:44:32.724-05:00A bounch of attention seeking freaks. I'm very...A bounch of attention seeking freaks. I'm very progressive and I couldn't care less,if they wouldn't bring religion and scriptures in to the mix.I used to live in the middle east and the moderate muslims have stopped practicing polygamy a long time ago.So here at home,it's Ok??Where is the law and why aren't those perverted men in jail?I don't get it.Kids go to jail for smoking a joint...but this is fine???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-21985374403761608782011-10-16T15:20:26.800-04:002011-10-16T15:20:26.800-04:00Leah, I hope the legal wife is as ecstatically hap...Leah, I hope the legal wife is as ecstatically happy as you claim to be. Sorry you had a rotten experience and sorry you couldn't find a man of your ownFreeAnd Clearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-82912743657850457502011-10-09T09:54:21.475-04:002011-10-09T09:54:21.475-04:00Dennis Rader was the BTK Killer, not the Green Riv...Dennis Rader was the BTK Killer, not the Green River Killer. GOSH. Try to keep up if you are going to talk serial killers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-83111752609969807772011-10-08T00:13:53.093-04:002011-10-08T00:13:53.093-04:00Mister,
So as not to hijack your blog, I have sta...Mister,<br /><br />So as not to hijack your blog, I have started one in order to answer questions and respond without again hijacking yours.<br /><br />I will explain more on the who does dishes, jealousy etc there. I look forward to more discussions on the topic.<br /><br />LeahNon-Traditional Polygamist Wifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17127605973182060355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-33128794444470048042011-10-07T22:04:37.117-04:002011-10-07T22:04:37.117-04:00Mister..
Leah, my wife,would be more than happy to...Mister..<br />Leah, my wife,would be more than happy to speak on what she, and I know and do. She is a wonderful, expressive woman who I cherish dailyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-35366851296605803882011-10-07T21:49:13.543-04:002011-10-07T21:49:13.543-04:00Leah,
I have no problem with polygamy if the relig...Leah,<br />I have no problem with polygamy if the religion is not involved, nor little children. I am sorry you went through so much!Mister Sisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-85346733522444682442011-10-07T18:59:52.788-04:002011-10-07T18:59:52.788-04:00A day ahead
I don't think the Browns have ever...A day ahead<br />I don't think the Browns have ever really been asked to address thier finances etc although it is possible I am worng and I agree that the fundamentalisr version of polygamy can do more bad than good, especailly to the general publics view of polygamy that one sided look in does not mean all polygamous relationships are painted with the same wide brush. Most ned to remember that Polygamy and Polyamoury (sp) are 2 very distinct things with different ideals attached to them. They do not always go hand in hand and there are those who think all the lines are blurred when they may not be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-35628628471350204922011-10-07T13:13:36.774-04:002011-10-07T13:13:36.774-04:00Leah
It sounds like you had a very hard road to wa...Leah<br />It sounds like you had a very hard road to walk before you found happiness. The fact that people can turn their lives around and see hope and joy again is reassuring and inspirational.<br /><br />Your story is pretty unlike the Brown's and other religious polygamists though. You were not raised to believe that you were literally DAMNED TO HELL if you were: A) uncomfortable sharing your husband B) unwilling to marry the man you were directed (forced) to or C) disobedient to your husband in any way. You were a consenting adult who choose your situation with NO THREATS hanging over your head. <br /><br />Rarely has anyone in this blog said anything too negative about the Browns (especially not that they didn't deserve--Robyn does have a very prominent and awkward chin afterall). They have been given their fair chance and yet discrepencies have been popping up. No one has accused the Browns of anything so horrible as forced underage marriages or child abuse. There has been a LOT of proof that the Brown are concealing the truth about many things, primarily their finances, but also the distance between their family and some of the FLDS people. This casts an aura of suspicion over the whole thing. They've lied several times, so really, they could be lying about anything.<br /><br />Ultimately, many and more people have shared their personal, "live and let live" policies, but are reaching for additional information and answers to be as well informed as possible. The conclusion that is *generally* being reached is that the form of polygamy typically practiced by these fundamentalist Mormons groups is worrying to our society as a whole.<br /><br />In your case though, I think we'd love to hear more about the details of your day to day life. How you work out jealousy, sharing, the dishes, cooking, laundry and everything like that.A Day Aheadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-62232651860790846702011-10-07T11:45:38.775-04:002011-10-07T11:45:38.775-04:00Mister Sister Blogger,
I am indeed a polygamist bu...Mister Sister Blogger,<br />I am indeed a polygamist but am unlike those you see on television, in the news or anywhere in the news for the matter. In fact, I sometimes believe me and my family are one of a kind. Let me explain.<br /><br />I am not, nor have I have been a Mormon of any sect. I was not raised in or around polygamists or the Mormon religion. I was raised Catholic, converted to Judaism when I married my husband. Both religions do not condone polygamy. Therefore I would say I and my family are not associated with any religion. I believe in God, Heaven and Hell and believe my beliefs are between me and God, and I will answer to him when I die. <br /><br />I had a traditional married of which 4 children were born, that ended very badly after 15 years. The simple truth is once he beat me so badly I was put on life support I finally realized at some point he would kill me. This is not to bad mouth my ex husband, he is the father of my children. We are volatile and I have heard he has addressed his demons and is happily married to his former daughter in law (she was once married to his son from a former marriage) and has had more children. I wish them well and harbor no ill feelings towards him. I had to let it go for my own sanity. All of our children are now adults and three have children of their own, the fourth is only 18 so still working on education.<br /><br />I then had a small number of very unhealthy relationships and had reached a point where I had given up on having a healthy relationship and was focused on my career in the legal profession. I was not seeking a relationship or love when my husband entered my life.<br /><br />None of us were planning on this happening but it did. He loves his first wife deeply and we also fell in love. Thus, polygamy was the answer and it works for us. We do not all reside together and have two homes. He is our husband, and it works for us. <br /><br />We have no children and none of us are planning on having more. Simple, my children are grown, and all but one child, all have a great relationship with my husband as do our grandchildren. One child has an issue with it but that is another story, as she has a problem with almost everything in life that doesn’t go her way.<br /><br /><br />I fully understand this choice is not for everyone and some have moral and ethical issues with our life. I do not begrudge anyone their beliefs. I can also say I doubt I would ever want cameras following me around documenting my life. However, I applaud the Browns and Dargers for coming forward and exposing their lives. I also do not begrudge them for getting paid to do so. I will say due to the viewers turning in, it keeps the show on the air and thus the participants continuing to get paid.<br /><br />Why I do not have an issue with them getting paid is simple. Making a decision to allow cameras to document their lives, means opening themselves to ridicule and giving up a level of privacy. Granted it was a choice, but it is not one I believe was reached easily due to the lack of normalcy that comes with real life television. All people who have become tv personalities due to real life tv shows has said they no longer have privacy. Thus, their lives become jobs in a sense. But just my opinion.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01916793725615771344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-62497542168888462222011-10-07T06:50:16.953-04:002011-10-07T06:50:16.953-04:00Answer to Leah;
My issue is that the Browns have b...Answer to Leah;<br />My issue is that the Browns have been caught in numerous lies about alot of things. When names and places connected to the Browns show up in other "creepy" poligamist sects, that's when I call bullshit. The Dargers (Love times Three) are connected with Principle Voices just like the Browns are. This group is in high gear doing damage control after the Jeffs trial. I don't watch the show to find fault and pick at them, I'm really trying to understand these women.poolqueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513615940641553105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-77781349594079263872011-10-07T02:43:00.854-04:002011-10-07T02:43:00.854-04:00Leah,
It's their lies that bother me. And, th...Leah, <br />It's their lies that bother me. And, they have evaded many truths by omission.<br />Are you a polygamist? If so, by religion? What faith do you follow.<br />If you are, we would like to hear from you, too.Mister Sisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-11939689290090932862011-10-07T02:15:03.512-04:002011-10-07T02:15:03.512-04:00poolqueen
To answer your question, I know that R...poolqueen <br /><br />To answer your question, I know that Robyn's kids see their dad, but, as far as in general with the AUB- maybe someone else can jump in here with an answer?????Mister Sisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-20381208283898023642011-10-07T00:25:00.880-04:002011-10-07T00:25:00.880-04:00Mom of 3 Thank you :) :) :)
Leah, if you a...Mom of 3 Thank you :) :) :)<br /><br />Leah, if you accept money to open your home(s), wife (wives), children for tv audiences you can expect both the fauning and and faulters.<br /><br />Blogs allow like minded people to snark if they want. You aren't paying us to listen to your lectures.Border Collienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-15418753324577625862011-10-07T00:01:59.995-04:002011-10-07T00:01:59.995-04:00It is clear by reading this blog, there is an issu...It is clear by reading this blog, there is an issue with polygamists which is fine. No one is forcing anyone to life their life or saying you must agree and follow them. Here is my problem, if Kody is so terrible and Robyn whiney etc, why are you watching? Just so you have someone to insult and ridicule?<br /><br />Anyone that harms children, such as Jeff’s or his like are breaking the law and hiding behind people such as the Browns and Dargers is not going to change the fact they are child abusers. <br /><br />The Brown’s have very clearly stated more than once they are appalled at the abuse of these young girls and are NOT associated with that group of people.<br /><br />Not every polygamist family marries young girls, nor are all breaking the law and using the welfare system to support their families. Yet everyone assumes because a family has plural wives they are all the same.<br /><br /> That is like saying all traditional families are the same. Keep in mind Dennis Rader (AKA the green river killer) was church-going family man, a Cub Scout leader, and a dog-catcher for the trim suburb of Park City. Oh and a serial killer. <br /><br />Anyone remember Joel Steinburg, an attorney who battered his wife and killed her adopted daughter. There was so called traditional families, and yet they are/were monsters.<br /><br /> Are we do assume the people such as this mean every traditional family is evil because some are? The same can be said about polygamists. <br /><br />My heart breaks for the girls forced into marriage and the boys tossed out as they are viewed as threats. I do not see any evidence of abuse in the Brown family, I see a family brave enough to come forward and say we are different this is our story and we are willing to share it.<br /><br /> Those who want to pass judgment I wonder would you be willing to open your home and life to the general public to tear about everything you do and say and believe in. Because I bet there are people who would find issue in how you live your life and the choices you make too.Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01916793725615771344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-8345069370628734842011-10-06T23:56:34.809-04:002011-10-06T23:56:34.809-04:00Mom of 3
You are right on track. This is part of a...Mom of 3<br />You are right on track. This is part of a conspiracy to get Polygamy legalized!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-1357429039257507682011-10-06T22:53:16.258-04:002011-10-06T22:53:16.258-04:00Sorry Border Collie, didn't mean to offend you...Sorry Border Collie, didn't mean to offend you. I like Border Collies! Truely I do. I love my pooch, who is a great pyrenees. I was referring to dogs that have that "hyper Behavior" like running in endless circles or jumping up and down a million times in a row to see themselves in a mirror. My grandma has a dog like this.Mom of 3noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-12934715983657478382011-10-06T20:51:39.567-04:002011-10-06T20:51:39.567-04:00I posted earlier that I was starting to read Love ...I posted earlier that I was starting to read Love Times Three by the Dargers. Again, a slick version of the same story. Mr. Darger is the chairman of his group with The Principle Voice and he mentions Ms. Butcheor. One of the wives was married at 18 to a 44 year old man. She was his fifth wife, turned out to be a POS so she left him and ended up marrying her twin sister's husband. He is also rearing her children that she had with husband #1. Why don't the biological fathers ever have anything to do with their kids when they get divorced? What about all their followers on their own planet when they die? This book takes Family and Children Services to task because they were investigated when one of the children died at 10 months of age. They try and make it look like the only reason they were investigated was because their name "Darger" was a poligamist name. Again, the Jessop name was mentioned.poolqueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513615940641553105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-45349280544903682442011-10-06T20:07:18.033-04:002011-10-06T20:07:18.033-04:00Mom of 3
Bite your tongue.
Don't compare Kody ...Mom of 3<br />Bite your tongue.<br />Don't compare Kody to one of those super hyper dogs!!<br /><br />I take great exception, and if I wasn't a girl, I'd go pee on somebody's leg.<br /><br />I'm a very smart BC, undisputedly the smartest of dogs, and Kody doesn't cut it, at all. He'd be abandoned at birth.Border Collienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-40272476453465513452011-10-06T19:20:54.513-04:002011-10-06T19:20:54.513-04:00GREAT Article, I need to go get his book, too. May...GREAT Article, I need to go get his book, too. Maybe we could have a discussion on it?robynisafreaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-33007153276716834142011-10-06T16:11:05.705-04:002011-10-06T16:11:05.705-04:00I think All of you bring up excellent points. I ha...I think All of you bring up excellent points. I haven't read Mr. Brower's book Prophet's Prey, I must go get it!<br />As far as the connections, sounds like we have some sleuths on our hands. We'd love to hear more!!!!Mister Sisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-4381808935177775892011-10-06T14:03:06.837-04:002011-10-06T14:03:06.837-04:00I think the show is like "16 and Pregnant.&qu...I think the show is like "16 and Pregnant." It sounds like it's glamorous until you actually watch it and see how pathetic it is. The Browns are just sad and brainwashed. Anyone watching that would be horrified if their daughter "married" this loser.<br /><br />I completely disagree with the legal point. The law, as written, makes it a felony to CALL someone your "wife," not sleep around or whatever. It's a speech issue, and (Priesthood Holder Kody help me!), it's a religious issue.<br /><br />If you work for a lawyer, you know that no one had STANDING for this terrible law until these idiots showed up and the even more idiotic law enforcement starting rattling their cage. The Browns are going to win, and, ironically, that might be the death knell for these cults because it will lift the secrecy.Planet Kodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-55477031545398021682011-10-06T09:31:33.328-04:002011-10-06T09:31:33.328-04:00You're right, Mom of 3. I think that the Brow...You're right, Mom of 3. I think that the Browns were choosen to show a cool, hip version of polygamy as oposed to the prarie dress wearing folks.<br />This show was carefully planned so that when the Jeffs trial blew up, they could say, "No way are we from the same group." those names keep coming up, they travel in the same circles.<br />Reading Mr. Brower's book was an eye opener. I've read just about every book on polygamy so far and this was is by far the most in depth. I'm starting on the new one called Love times Three, the group that was on Dr. Phil's show last week.<br />One other thing, those of you that watched Willie Jessop on Dr. Phil, do you believe that he's really sorry for the role he has played? It's damn funny how frequently he shows up in Sam Brower's book, yet on national TV he claimed that he was just the enforcer, he really didn't know about the underage girls forced into marriage or the lost boys. Baloney!poolqueenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513615940641553105noreply@blogger.com