tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post3161367574148745293..comments2024-02-10T00:09:14.970-05:00Comments on Sister Wives Blog: "My 5 Wives" Spoilers, Gossip etc. with Video 2 Sister Wives 5!Mister Sisterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comBlogger156125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-89180898326537299782013-09-25T17:02:53.778-04:002013-09-25T17:02:53.778-04:00I really enjoyed your comments. Being a practicin...I really enjoyed your comments. Being a practicing polygamist, you've struck at the heart of the internal conflict women in plural marriage deal with. I would NEVER live plural marriage if it wasn't for a religious and spiritual motivation and, by the way, neither would my husband. He's told me many times that if he didn't believe the religion, he would have remained a bachelor. So, it makes me sad and it hurts to read all the mean, uninformed, and prejudicial opinions of people regarding practicing polygamists. It truly never ceases to amaze me how mean-spirited people can be towards others who choose to live something that isn't popular. Are the negative opinions of people going to deter me from living my religion? No. Not any more than my opinions are going to deter or stem the tide of misinformation, prejudice, and...just plain...meanness. Do people think that "plygs" don't read or keep informed of the plethora of sentiments uttered against them and their religion? I have to chuckle when I read articles and posts made by people who are trying to "put down the evil of polygamy". They often use their cause to justify lies, stir up prejudice, treat polygamists with hate and scorn, promote discrimination, and generally promote "evil", thinking that it's okay because others are doing "evil" too. Funny logic, if one has any belief in the principles of goodness and ESPECIALLY if one is a believer of the principles Jesus Christ teaches. :) Thank you again for your insightful comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-15014694241608104682013-09-23T20:14:07.939-04:002013-09-23T20:14:07.939-04:00ex AUB, you may know a lot about the AUB, but I...ex AUB, you may know a lot about the AUB, but I'm not sure you really understand Rocky Ridge. I have family from there and Rocky Ridge really isn't like Colorado City/Hildale or FLDS people at all.. The Rocky Ridge community does try to buy the homes of apostates or anybody who just decides to leave, and for a fair price. The whole community pools together to build everyone's homes in work projects where the community offers free labor. Even materials are sometimes donated to individuals who need the help. None of the homes are ever built with any debt or mortgages incurred. They do not pay rent, but they would be responsible for their own property tax to the state. That is one reason people like him can afford to have so many children.<br />So if Brady chooses to say is most likely because his home is paid for and cheaper to house his family there than anywhere else.<br />In answer to Andrea Torres question, yes the AUB pay tithing. Many AUB members live in ordinary suburbs like everyone else. Some choose to join an "united order" which is a community where they give more than a tithe. If a AUB member is living in a order community, it means they are paying a full tithe, and then in addition to that they give any surplus they are able to support the less fortunate. So widows, orphans, people who lost their jobs, roads built, ect. by them pooling their excess. In addition to financial contributions, many order communities have work projects where they help others in the community build homes, or plant a garden.<br />And yes Andrea, the AUB follow the LDS word of wisdom, but do not wear the same garments. The AUB wear one piece long-john style garments to the wrist and ankles underneath their clothing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13664235793803163355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-32635430911860919982013-09-23T13:14:09.387-04:002013-09-23T13:14:09.387-04:00Watch My 5 Wives Full length here: http://www.tlc...Watch My 5 Wives Full length here: http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/my-five-wives/videos/my-five-wives.htmMister Sisterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026116196375975580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-48813830618351735722013-09-23T11:28:55.981-04:002013-09-23T11:28:55.981-04:00About those benefits of polygamy . . .
I haven&#...About those benefits of polygamy . . . <br /><br />I haven't posted in a while but here is what I think about the whole "independent, liberal polygamist" thing:<br /><br />Polygamy without a strong religious, economic or cultural purpose simply doesn't make sense for the women. Simply put - it's not a good deal for them.<br /><br />Aside from the fundamentalist LDS groups, there's not a lot of polygamy that is not driven by economic scarcity (for example, Sub-Saharan Africa) or cultural/religious belief (Iran). Usually, it's a combination of both (Saudi Arabia, Yemen). Countries where polygamy is common are not on the forefront of religious freedom or women's rights.<br /><br />So, the argument that the Bradys are living polygamy despite having moved away from their religious group (AUB) rests on the concept of personal fulfillment and happiness. Personal fulfillment strikes at the heart of all religious fundamentalism as the good of the group (family) must come before the good of the individual. So there's a huge internal conflict here. <br /><br />Of course, just because they are not official members of the AUB doesn't mean they still don't think polygamy will open to them the highest level of heavenly glory. I would really like to know if they are motivated to live polygamy due to rewards in the afterlife. It seems to me that without this benefit, polygamy would be pretty meaningless. And my understanding of the LDS in general, and all forms of fundamentalism in general, includes this deep sense of purpose that is so attractive to members. <br /><br />Not only that, I read enough about the LDS faith to conclude that the afterlife is really, really an important point of focus; the show Big Love touched on this. Our time on earth is just a blink of an eye compared to eternity. If that's the case, and if this life of earth is so brief and exists only to prepare us for the next, then I could see how polygamy could be sold to women as a brief but necessary burden of the faith. <br /><br />But if they no longer believe polygamy grants them this benefit, or if it's not as important to them in terms of faith, then they are really are making the argument that they are living polygamy because they like it.<br /><br />And I don't buy it. I just don't accept the argument that, apart from religious, cultural, or economic pressure, women will choose to live polygamy over monogamy. The supposed benefits - shared child care, help with 'taking care of the man' - just don't seem to be that big a part of the whole polygamy deal.<br /><br />I think that's what is, in part, so fascinating about watching the Browns and now the Bradys. We are amazed that women living in a fully developed economy, with lots of eligible males and lots of economic opportunity, would choose this lifestyle. It's beyond belief that women would live this life because it makes them happy when clearly it does not. That's why, for me, Janelle has been the most fascinating of the Brown wives; she was not raised in polygamy and could easily have chosen another path. I would love to really understand the basis of her choice to join Kody and Meri.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09597872319323636093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-2734295975220001802013-09-22T19:41:01.958-04:002013-09-22T19:41:01.958-04:00I tried to like him too and just couldn't. I ...I tried to like him too and just couldn't. I actually think Kody has a better more likable personality. (I can't believe I just said that, lol) <br /><br />I thought the wives were quite needy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-57997909322802607592013-09-21T11:16:45.909-04:002013-09-21T11:16:45.909-04:00Couple of questions regarding AUB. Maybe ex-AUB c...Couple of questions regarding AUB. Maybe ex-AUB can answer. Does the group own the homes the Williams are living in? Do they paying the group rent or a tithe? Also, does the AUB following the LDS word of wisdom or wear the same garments?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01863663416249341705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-68163097196796846972013-09-21T01:51:27.737-04:002013-09-21T01:51:27.737-04:00Me too! Come on TLC,you are good at drumming up t...Me too! Come on TLC,you are good at drumming up these shows. Make us an ex-wives of plyg show, and Sobbin doesn't count, even though she was married to a man that was the son of a plyg family.Landogmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12021008445583421532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-25616563107509294362013-09-20T23:57:10.740-04:002013-09-20T23:57:10.740-04:00I also don't think they knew about her convers...I also don't think they knew about her conversation with Brady. I think it was edited to look like that convo came first, but it might not have. I just don't get why she was told they can't afford a baby, but foreign adoption is okay.JJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11878806728956701932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-7446800542684071672013-09-20T03:56:20.480-04:002013-09-20T03:56:20.480-04:00How are you guys getting all that out of a 1 hour ...How are you guys getting all that out of a 1 hour special? I guess I better re-watch. After the Browns last week, I was exhausted.Clueless in KYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02277667471391707157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-51342976356703021912013-09-20T02:02:44.844-04:002013-09-20T02:02:44.844-04:00When one wife (Rosemary?) said it was inappropriat...When one wife (Rosemary?) said it was inappropriate for another to talk about having a baby, she meant because the other wife started talking about it in the middle of the adoption discussion, when it wasn't her turn. It was like she was butting into a discussion of one wife's issue to start taking about an entirely separate issue of her own. She didn't mean it was inappropriate to consider it or to talk about it, just that they were discussing something else at that time. At least that's how I saw it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-41672487133880354752013-09-20T01:55:30.319-04:002013-09-20T01:55:30.319-04:00Brady seems a nice, fairly normal guy on the surfa...Brady seems a nice, fairly normal guy on the surface, but the more you watch, the more you realize the man has a gigantic ego. He talked oh-so-earnestly about doing his best to be sure every wife gets to be with him as equally as possible, but oh shucks, there is just not enough of him for everyone to get as much time with him as she deserves! How very sad for the wives that every wife can't have the awesome pleasure of being with him on his birthday! So tragic for them, poor little pathetic wives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-82808967475331365952013-09-20T01:22:10.949-04:002013-09-20T01:22:10.949-04:00Yes, that's what I meant, should have clarifie...Yes, that's what I meant, should have clarified better.<br /><br />The Dargers are independent fundamental Mormons...and the Brady's are now....not any kind of Mormon at all, so I guess I am curious as to the reasoning behind them leaving their church, as I think all of the women actually grew up in that?<br /><br />Does the husband have that much control, that he can tell the women to abandon all their beliefs. That's the story I am wondering about. What prompted *that* and how did he get all 5 women on board....and absolutely, as there is no religious reasoning for their polygamy at this point, are they all in it cause it's too late to turn back and they want to stay together for the kids? And if so, what happens when the youngest grows up....so many questions. Fake Fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-26484823027636202732013-09-19T22:39:02.501-04:002013-09-19T22:39:02.501-04:00"Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!" (Funny song ..."Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb!" (Funny song from the South Park episode about the beginnings of the LDS Church mentioned by BB.)Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606194102860916555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-28222151976152336472013-09-19T22:37:56.529-04:002013-09-19T22:37:56.529-04:00Kristy, that's obviously a knotty problem. Som...Kristy, that's obviously a knotty problem. Some men whom I know have taken different approaches to this. Some just remain with their first legal wife. When that happens often the left over women stay in the cult and get "married" to someone else. Sometimes they leave together and stay together for a while, but then split up, with the man choosing one of them, and the one who is left marries someone else. Brady and the women he lives with have opted to stay together, Legally there are no constraints on them, but (and this is pure speculation) maybe they want to keep the children together with their father, and can't face trying to make new lives for themselves alone?ex AUBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-35906732147526887222013-09-19T22:35:19.845-04:002013-09-19T22:35:19.845-04:00At least one of these women said that they want(ed...At least one of these women said that they want(ed) to stay together as a family even without the religion.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606194102860916555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-59277221294741773722013-09-19T22:28:19.496-04:002013-09-19T22:28:19.496-04:00I guess Brady's bunch are independent polygami...I guess Brady's bunch are independent polygamists in one sense, but not in the same way as most "Independents" who adhere to the teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Brady and his women started off living this for religious reasons, but now have no religious rationale for their polygamy.ex AUBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-13585700846416269642013-09-19T22:26:55.532-04:002013-09-19T22:26:55.532-04:00Just because they didn't show him brushing his...Just because they didn't show him brushing his teeth doesn't mean he didn't. Admittedly, I wondered about that, too - but not seeing it on the show doesn't mean it didn't happen.Rebeccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606194102860916555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-62305790910327538162013-09-19T22:11:47.195-04:002013-09-19T22:11:47.195-04:00ex AUB: If they have left the polygamy faith how d...ex AUB: If they have left the polygamy faith how does he continue to live polygamy? If the whole family decided this was no longer their religion does he remain "married" to all the women or are they all at liberty to choose whether to remain married or leave? In general, if a man leaves polygamy how does he choose who to remain married to?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414151882607441916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-22440587901566414212013-09-19T21:45:49.648-04:002013-09-19T21:45:49.648-04:00That is the best idea I have heard. I would love ...That is the best idea I have heard. I would love to have a show opposite the Brown's/My Five Wives that focuses on religious abuse survivors with emphasis on polygamy. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414151882607441916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-57597162907571564042013-09-19T20:57:49.101-04:002013-09-19T20:57:49.101-04:00I certainly will give this show another shot if ma...I certainly will give this show another shot if made into a series. IF they start telling the truth about what happened between them and the church.<br />JuJuBeanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12021720494149719911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-87706309964954978482013-09-19T20:21:03.783-04:002013-09-19T20:21:03.783-04:00... this was spot-on, laugh out loud, FANTASTIC!... this was spot-on, laugh out loud, FANTASTIC!Anne Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16613719352250446219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-89261253286157306372013-09-19T15:03:12.919-04:002013-09-19T15:03:12.919-04:00Right, and the Dargers are not AUB. They are indep...Right, and the Dargers are not AUB. They are independents...which I htought meant that they are their own thing, not following any of the plyg churches.<br /><br />I wonder why the Brady's didn't do that too?Fake Fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-84198190646226063982013-09-19T13:32:09.412-04:002013-09-19T13:32:09.412-04:00Has anybody thought about doing a show about real ...Has anybody thought about doing a show about real American families living legally? We've got lots of diversity that *is* legal and interesting. It could even be enlightening. Imagine seeing the almost extinct two parent family talking about what it takes to stay married through the difficult teenage years. Or what it was like to convert to the others religion to get married like my mother did 50 years ago. Or mixed race couples. Or an unemployed primary bread winner. <br /><br />A new story ever week. Call it something like: A Glimpse of American<br /><br />Enough of making these freaks rich. You realize it is because of us that the Brown's got their McMansions. Brightonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00665647488324279766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-82730855005488166822013-09-19T12:36:17.617-04:002013-09-19T12:36:17.617-04:00To ex AUB: Thank you for your input. You have be...To ex AUB: Thank you for your input. You have been giving us the REAL STORY from an inside perspective. The history and background you provide is illuminating. It helps to make sense out of all the stories put out by the polygamist families. Fascinating! Keep more coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1083130180732134503.post-41970496386838379242013-09-19T12:23:12.268-04:002013-09-19T12:23:12.268-04:00The Dargers are Independent polygamists, not membe...The Dargers are Independent polygamists, not members of AUBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com